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Default Re: My New Jeep - 12-01-2006 , 01:14 PM







Mike Romain wrote:
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SkyKing49 wrote:

Mike Romain wrote:
We live in Canada and take our CJ7 and Cherokee out in snow all the
time. We off road both winter and summer in them. Both my wife and I
worked jobs that require us to be on the road at all hours before the
plows hit the roads and I had a 20 mile uphill drive home in the CJ7.

Our CJ7 has 'always' gotten us there and back safely, so has our
Cherokee. We are also talking off road on trails that are impossible to
walk on, but crawling along in 4 low has gotten us out.

Jeeps 'shift on the fly' into 4 high at any legal speed and go nice, but
they sure don't slow down any nicer than any other vehicle. You have to
be careful and learn how to use the gears to slow.

True..I have always driven standards and downshifting is better than
breaking

If you hit the brakes in a part time 4x4, all 4 wheels lock up and you
go sideways faster than you can blink. Sometimes shifting to 2 wheel
drive is better to slow down, but I like staying in 4x4. Turning left
at intersections in ice or slush works better in 2 wheel drive.

Why would 2wd be better than 4wd when turning left in those conditions?
I would think that 4wd would give better traction.

The left turn at an intersection here in North America is a long arc, vs
the right turn is a sharp corner.

Because of the locked center in 'part time' 4x4, when you turn a corner
one wheel has to scuff the ground due to the front wheels physically
rolling farther than the back ones.

If the snow is heavy or slushy like most salted intersections, this
front wheel scuffing can get up on top of the snow or slush and then the
Jeep just wants to go straight. Sometimes giving it more gas can pull
you around the corner, but I find it better to just shift to 2 wheel
drive for going into the turn, then back to 4x4 to power out of the
turn.

Something to try out, your tires might act differently, I have muds on
the CJ7 and AT's on the Cherokee and both do it.

Mike

Thanks Mike...that is very interesting. I have never heard of that
"problem". I will make sure I check it out when and if the need
arises.
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I recommend come first snow you find an empty parking lot to try it
out. One good saying for driving in 4x4 is 'to go as slow as you can
and as fast as you need to'.

I don't know the depth of your tread, but that size in an AT tire will
have good traction with some tread depth. They are nice and narrow
which grabs the snow the best.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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SkyKing49 wrote:

As stated in one of my previous posts, I am not going to buy any new
tires for winter driving. I am not going to use studded tires when I
would only need them a couple of times a year. Chains might be an idea
otherwise the stock tires will have to do. Are there chains that are
VERY easy to get on and off, easy enough for my wife to do it if she is
out driving and needs to do it? I bought the Jeep so that my wife and
I could drive when most other folks would get stuck. I do not have to
go fast, I just need to get there. I am concerned about situations
where parts of the road is clear and parts are still snow covered. I
will simply put it in 4wd whenever I see snow and take it out when it
goes back to dry payment...even if I have to do it every mile. If the
Jeep can't handle that, I bought the wrong vehicle. My wife will be
using it for work when the weather is bad. I do not want her to hit
some snow in 2wd and start spinning around in circles. We have a 1997
Honda Accord that she drives most of the time but if the conditions are
like what I described above I am telling her to put it in 4wd even if
she has only 50ft of snow to go through before she hits dry payment.
She can then take it out of four wheel drive and repeat the process as
needed even if she has to do it 100 times on the way to work. This
should not hurt the Jeep...at least that is what I have been told. Its
just a matter of pulling the lever up and then pushing it down again so
if the Jeep can take it I have no worries. Is there any rule against
putting it in and out of 4wd in the manner I spoke of earlier or is
there a possibility of damaging the Jeep? If there are tech sites that
discuss this issue I would appreciate being linked to them.


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Default Re: My New Jeep - 12-01-2006 , 02:34 PM







Your top post does not include Wrangler ... adios bozo.


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Default Re: My New Jeep - 12-01-2006 , 02:37 PM




But you say it does have engines ... how many? Tranfer cases ... how
many? Transmissions ... how many?


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Default Re: My New Jeep - 12-02-2006 , 04:56 AM




"bowgus" <bowgus (AT) rogers (DOT) com> wrote

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Your top post does not include Wrangler ... adios bozo.


Pity no one knows who's post you are refering to, adios bozo




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Default Re: My New Jeep - 12-03-2006 , 11:41 AM




bowgus wrote:
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Your top post does not include Wrangler ... adios bozo.
If you had read the posts and the replies you would have known it was
about a wrangler.
I guess you have to be spoon-fed. You should hang out at some Jeep
Wave forum and check your attitude at the door. Ah...name calling.
You must spend a lot of time at some elementary school playground.
chuckle



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Default Re: My New Jeep - 12-03-2006 , 12:24 PM



SkyKing49 proclaimed:
Quote:
bowgus wrote:

Your top post does not include Wrangler ... adios bozo.


If you had read the posts and the replies you would have known it was
about a wrangler.
I guess you have to be spoon-fed. You should hang out at some Jeep
Wave forum and check your attitude at the door. Ah...name calling.
You must spend a lot of time at some elementary school playground.
Why do I get the distinct impression that this character really drives a
mini-van or a volvo station wagon and gets even crankier every 28 days.





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Default Re: My New Jeep - 12-03-2006 , 12:59 PM




Lon wrote:
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SkyKing49 proclaimed:
bowgus wrote:

Your top post does not include Wrangler ... adios bozo.


If you had read the posts and the replies you would have known it was
about a wrangler.
I guess you have to be spoon-fed. You should hang out at some Jeep
Wave forum and check your attitude at the door. Ah...name calling.
You must spend a lot of time at some elementary school playground.

Why do I get the distinct impression that this character really drives a
mini-van or a volvo station wagon and gets even crankier every 28 days.
Yep...bowgus does have a sissy way about him.



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