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Default 1999 Jimmy 4 wheel Intermittent - 12-18-2007 , 07:35 PM






Hi, I`ve been having a problem with my 4wheel drive and, before I start
parts changing, I figured I`d ask. What`s happening is that my Jimmy is
dropping out of 4 wheel into 2 wheel. It`s intermittent, happens more often
when its colder outside, dash "service 4 wheel" comes on, and I lose 4
wheel. Happens in both Auto and 4High. Can be reset sometimes by restarting
the vehicle, other times not. A borrowed scan tool shows no hard codes but I
havent been in a situation to hook it up when its happening.
I`ve heard that the dash switch is problematic in this model with the Auto 4
wheel but was under the impression it was a complete failure problem not an
intermittent one. Ive done a good visual on the undercarriage,wiring to the
T/case looks good.
Any thoughts on how to proceed from here?
Thanks
Jeff
Any thoughts



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Default Re: 1999 Jimmy 4 wheel Intermittent - 12-18-2007 , 07:48 PM






JKBK wrote:
Quote:
Hi, I`ve been having a problem with my 4wheel drive and, before I start
parts changing, I figured I`d ask. What`s happening is that my Jimmy is
dropping out of 4 wheel into 2 wheel. It`s intermittent, happens more often
when its colder outside, dash "service 4 wheel" comes on, and I lose 4
wheel. Happens in both Auto and 4High. Can be reset sometimes by restarting
the vehicle, other times not. A borrowed scan tool shows no hard codes but I
havent been in a situation to hook it up when its happening.
I`ve heard that the dash switch is problematic in this model with the Auto 4
wheel but was under the impression it was a complete failure problem not an
intermittent one. Ive done a good visual on the undercarriage,wiring to the
T/case looks good.
Any thoughts on how to proceed from here?
Thanks
Jeff
Any thoughts


Pull the switch out and check the solder connections on it. It is kind
of common for the switch to get flakey.

It could also be a problem with the front clutch pack itself. When was
the last service of the front axle?


--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!


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Default Re: 1999 Jimmy 4 wheel Intermittent - 12-18-2007 , 09:29 PM




"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
JKBK wrote:
Hi, I`ve been having a problem with my 4wheel drive and, before I start
parts changing, I figured I`d ask. What`s happening is that my Jimmy is
dropping out of 4 wheel into 2 wheel. It`s intermittent, happens more
often when its colder outside, dash "service 4 wheel" comes on, and I
lose 4 wheel. Happens in both Auto and 4High. Can be reset sometimes by
restarting the vehicle, other times not. A borrowed scan tool shows no
hard codes but I havent been in a situation to hook it up when its
happening.
I`ve heard that the dash switch is problematic in this model with the
Auto 4 wheel but was under the impression it was a complete failure
problem not an intermittent one. Ive done a good visual on the
undercarriage,wiring to the T/case looks good.
Any thoughts on how to proceed from here?
Thanks
Jeff
Any thoughts
Pull the switch out and check the solder connections on it. It is kind of
common for the switch to get flakey.

It could also be a problem with the front clutch pack itself. When was the
last service of the front axle?


--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!
Aside from an oil level check (and the usual tierods, ball joints, etc.) in
the summer, I havent done anything with the front axle since I got the
vehicle in 2005. Would a front axle slipping cause a system fault? I would
think it would no actual 4 wheel. With the intermittent nature I dismissed a
mechanical problem with the T/Case or front end and leaned toward electrical
especially with some basic research indicating the problemic behavior of the
system.




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Default Re: 1999 Jimmy 4 wheel Intermittent - 12-20-2007 , 02:10 PM



JKBK wrote:
Quote:
"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:fk9po1$s7h$1 (AT) aioe (DOT) org...
JKBK wrote:
Hi, I`ve been having a problem with my 4wheel drive and, before I start
parts changing, I figured I`d ask. What`s happening is that my Jimmy is
dropping out of 4 wheel into 2 wheel. It`s intermittent, happens more
often when its colder outside, dash "service 4 wheel" comes on, and I
lose 4 wheel. Happens in both Auto and 4High. Can be reset sometimes by
restarting the vehicle, other times not. A borrowed scan tool shows no
hard codes but I havent been in a situation to hook it up when its
happening.
I`ve heard that the dash switch is problematic in this model with the
Auto 4 wheel but was under the impression it was a complete failure
problem not an intermittent one. Ive done a good visual on the
undercarriage,wiring to the T/case looks good.
Any thoughts on how to proceed from here?
Thanks
Jeff
Any thoughts
Pull the switch out and check the solder connections on it. It is kind of
common for the switch to get flakey.

It could also be a problem with the front clutch pack itself. When was the
last service of the front axle?


--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!

Aside from an oil level check (and the usual tierods, ball joints, etc.) in
the summer, I havent done anything with the front axle since I got the
vehicle in 2005. Would a front axle slipping cause a system fault? I would
think it would no actual 4 wheel. With the intermittent nature I dismissed a
mechanical problem with the T/Case or front end and leaned toward electrical
especially with some basic research indicating the problemic behavior of the
system.


The way the auto 4x4 works there are a lot of items that can cause
system faults. The switch and TCCM along with the front clutch packs are
the common fault areas.
If the scan tool you borrowed may not be able to read the codes from the
TCCM. If the light came one there will be a code stored. You might want
to take it to a dealer/independent who has a factory style scan tool.
That way to can find out what it is doing.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York


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Default Re: 1999 Jimmy 4 wheel Intermittent - 12-20-2007 , 04:13 PM




"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
JKBK wrote:
"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:fk9po1$s7h$1 (AT) aioe (DOT) org...
JKBK wrote:
Hi, I`ve been having a problem with my 4wheel drive and, before I start
parts changing, I figured I`d ask. What`s happening is that my Jimmy is
dropping out of 4 wheel into 2 wheel. It`s intermittent, happens more
often when its colder outside, dash "service 4 wheel" comes on, and I
lose 4 wheel. Happens in both Auto and 4High. Can be reset sometimes by
restarting the vehicle, other times not. A borrowed scan tool shows no
hard codes but I havent been in a situation to hook it up when its
happening.
I`ve heard that the dash switch is problematic in this model with the
Auto 4 wheel but was under the impression it was a complete failure
problem not an intermittent one. Ive done a good visual on the
undercarriage,wiring to the T/case looks good.
Any thoughts on how to proceed from here?
Thanks
Jeff
Any thoughts
Pull the switch out and check the solder connections on it. It is kind
of common for the switch to get flakey.

It could also be a problem with the front clutch pack itself. When was
the last service of the front axle?


--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!

Aside from an oil level check (and the usual tierods, ball joints, etc.)
in the summer, I havent done anything with the front axle since I got the
vehicle in 2005. Would a front axle slipping cause a system fault? I
would think it would no actual 4 wheel. With the intermittent nature I
dismissed a mechanical problem with the T/Case or front end and leaned
toward electrical especially with some basic research indicating the
problemic behavior of the system.



The way the auto 4x4 works there are a lot of items that can cause system
faults. The switch and TCCM along with the front clutch packs are the
common fault areas.
If the scan tool you borrowed may not be able to read the codes from the
TCCM. If the light came one there will be a code stored. You might want to
take it to a dealer/independent who has a factory style scan tool. That
way to can find out what it is doing.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York
Thanks Steve
It was a snapon series scan tool from the local high school mechanics
program which is why I`m perplexed as to no code. It is working properly as
it is showing a code for my fuel sending unit but nothing else. I understand
the TCCM is by the front axle T/C output but I`m hearing clicking in the
glovebox area when I`m having the trouble. Is there a module under the dask
that controls the system/TCCM?
Jeff




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Default Re: 1999 Jimmy 4 wheel Intermittent - 12-20-2007 , 08:09 PM



JKBK wrote:
Quote:
"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:fkeenl$32f$1 (AT) aioe (DOT) org...
JKBK wrote:
"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:fk9po1$s7h$1 (AT) aioe (DOT) org...
JKBK wrote:
Hi, I`ve been having a problem with my 4wheel drive and, before I start
parts changing, I figured I`d ask. What`s happening is that my Jimmy is
dropping out of 4 wheel into 2 wheel. It`s intermittent, happens more
often when its colder outside, dash "service 4 wheel" comes on, and I
lose 4 wheel. Happens in both Auto and 4High. Can be reset sometimes by
restarting the vehicle, other times not. A borrowed scan tool shows no
hard codes but I havent been in a situation to hook it up when its
happening.
I`ve heard that the dash switch is problematic in this model with the
Auto 4 wheel but was under the impression it was a complete failure
problem not an intermittent one. Ive done a good visual on the
undercarriage,wiring to the T/case looks good.
Any thoughts on how to proceed from here?
Thanks
Jeff
Any thoughts
Pull the switch out and check the solder connections on it. It is kind
of common for the switch to get flakey.

It could also be a problem with the front clutch pack itself. When was
the last service of the front axle?


--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!
Aside from an oil level check (and the usual tierods, ball joints, etc.)
in the summer, I havent done anything with the front axle since I got the
vehicle in 2005. Would a front axle slipping cause a system fault? I
would think it would no actual 4 wheel. With the intermittent nature I
dismissed a mechanical problem with the T/Case or front end and leaned
toward electrical especially with some basic research indicating the
problemic behavior of the system.


The way the auto 4x4 works there are a lot of items that can cause system
faults. The switch and TCCM along with the front clutch packs are the
common fault areas.
If the scan tool you borrowed may not be able to read the codes from the
TCCM. If the light came one there will be a code stored. You might want to
take it to a dealer/independent who has a factory style scan tool. That
way to can find out what it is doing.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Thanks Steve
It was a snapon series scan tool from the local high school mechanics
program which is why I`m perplexed as to no code. It is working properly as
it is showing a code for my fuel sending unit but nothing else. I understand
the TCCM is by the front axle T/C output but I`m hearing clicking in the
glovebox area when I`m having the trouble. Is there a module under the dask
that controls the system/TCCM?
Jeff


The TCCM on that rig is behind the kick panel on the passengers side. It
may be what you hear clicking. It is possible the contacts have gotten
corroded casing a problem. The T/C Encoder motor is on the case.
http://www.kylestubbins.com/node/11 has a nice write up about the connector.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!


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Default Re: 1999 Jimmy 4 wheel Intermittent - 12-21-2007 , 06:06 PM




"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
JKBK wrote:
"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:fkeenl$32f$1 (AT) aioe (DOT) org...
JKBK wrote:
"Steve W." <csr684NOT (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:fk9po1$s7h$1 (AT) aioe (DOT) org...
JKBK wrote:
Hi, I`ve been having a problem with my 4wheel drive and, before I
start parts changing, I figured I`d ask. What`s happening is that my
Jimmy is dropping out of 4 wheel into 2 wheel. It`s intermittent,
happens more often when its colder outside, dash "service 4 wheel"
comes on, and I lose 4 wheel. Happens in both Auto and 4High. Can be
reset sometimes by restarting the vehicle, other times not. A
borrowed scan tool shows no hard codes but I havent been in a
situation to hook it up when its happening.
I`ve heard that the dash switch is problematic in this model with the
Auto 4 wheel but was under the impression it was a complete failure
problem not an intermittent one. Ive done a good visual on the
undercarriage,wiring to the T/case looks good.
Any thoughts on how to proceed from here?
Thanks
Jeff
Any thoughts
Pull the switch out and check the solder connections on it. It is kind
of common for the switch to get flakey.

It could also be a problem with the front clutch pack itself. When was
the last service of the front axle?


--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!
Aside from an oil level check (and the usual tierods, ball joints,
etc.) in the summer, I havent done anything with the front axle since I
got the vehicle in 2005. Would a front axle slipping cause a system
fault? I would think it would no actual 4 wheel. With the intermittent
nature I dismissed a mechanical problem with the T/Case or front end
and leaned toward electrical especially with some basic research
indicating the problemic behavior of the system.


The way the auto 4x4 works there are a lot of items that can cause
system faults. The switch and TCCM along with the front clutch packs are
the common fault areas.
If the scan tool you borrowed may not be able to read the codes from the
TCCM. If the light came one there will be a code stored. You might want
to take it to a dealer/independent who has a factory style scan tool.
That way to can find out what it is doing.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Thanks Steve
It was a snapon series scan tool from the local high school mechanics
program which is why I`m perplexed as to no code. It is working properly
as it is showing a code for my fuel sending unit but nothing else. I
understand the TCCM is by the front axle T/C output but I`m hearing
clicking in the glovebox area when I`m having the trouble. Is there a
module under the dask that controls the system/TCCM?
Jeff



The TCCM on that rig is behind the kick panel on the passengers side. It
may be what you hear clicking. It is possible the contacts have gotten
corroded casing a problem. The T/C Encoder motor is on the case.
http://www.kylestubbins.com/node/11 has a nice write up about the
connector.

--
Steve W.
Near Cooperstown, New York

Life is not like a box of chocolates
it's more like a jar of jalapenos-
what you do today could burn your ass tomorrow!

Thanks. In light of the clicking and the TCCM location, that seems like the
best place to start.
Merry Christmas
Jeff




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