2 problems related?

#21

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"Dzlman95" <Dzlma... (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote:

YOU da MAN Marsh... That's what I like about you, straight forward,
honest,
no BS advise based on your years of experience. �You put it out there
- take
it or leave it. �Happy New Year to ya my friend.

Dzlman
(You ain't no dipshit!)

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Wow........gotta another one fooled.

~~
oo
L
O

tks DZ

~:~
marsh
~takes a toke......hopes Mitchell on Demand doesn't find out he's got
illegal acess and is only 4 years old~
~:~

#22

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On Jan 10, 9:39�pm, aarcuda69062 <nonel... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

In article
2a030aa1-5609-4866-8a05-5e3cfb514... (AT) u10g2000prn (DOT) googlegroups.co
m>,
�Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2... (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

MARSHMONSTER
~takes a sip of his mushroom tea...........enters a realm where most
are scared to go~
~:~

Don't confuse "scared" with grew out of...

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~:~
mm
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#23

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"Refinish King" <diagnostic... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
Hey Marshy:

I was invited to a technical seminar/Bullshit meeting at Yusa/Exide.
They actually said if you have a battery that is gelling up in the
winter, or not holding a good charge. To remove the old fluid. Then
replace with fresh electrolyte.

Quote:

I'm sure some of the self righteous will argue, but this was right
from

Exide. I was invited because I sold over 200 batteries in a year.

RK

PS
Some of the self righteous are appropriately kill filed.
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FINALLY...........SOMEONE WITH BONDO FOR BRAINS !!!

THE KING HAS SPOKEN..........
LONG LIVE THE KING..............

~:~
marsh
~takes a sip of his crownroyal........overnights a new Devilbiss
to the king~
~:~

#24

On Jan 11, 7:25�pm, aarcuda69062 <nonel... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

In article <4FThj.20$ib7.11@trndny04>,
�"Refinish King" <diagnostic... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Hey Marshy:

I was invited to a technical seminar/Bullshit meeting at Yusa/Exide. They
actually said if you have a battery that is gelling up in the winter, ornot
holding a good charge. To remove the old fluid. Then replace with fresh
electrolyte.

We used Exide batteries for a while when I worked at Wisconsin
Gas Company, for any given battery shipment, at least 40% were
DOA. �They gave us that same spiel 18 years ago, because they
knew at the time that their electrolyte was batched wrong.
i.e., "defective."

FYI, it's 'Yuasa' not "Yusa"...

I'm sure some of the self righteous will argue, but this was right from
Exide. I was invited because I sold over 200 batteries in a year.

Marshy would be interested in replacing batteries because??
(he beats the crap out of 'em instead, I guess that wakes them up
or something)

RK

PS
Some of the self righteous are appropriately kill filed.

IOWs, head in the sand.

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Cuda......
kings me buddy....from way back.

anywhooooo.......
dropping the battery can, will, has been known to release the
caking on the plates from the acid that's accumulated on them....
possibly letting the specific gravity come back close to norm, if not
completely to norm.
A crap shoot.....yes. But..it will work on some.

~:~
marsh
~pours one fer duh cuda.......refills duh kings glass......guess's
he's gonna have to go to the files and find some data.....
dammit gumby.....whenever will i ever deuydecimal......oh well~
~:~

#25

In article
<5af957e0-3bff-4e76-a2fb-7504bfafbec1 (AT) q39g2000hsf (DOT) googlegroups.co
m>,
Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2624 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:
<trimmed just a little>

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lmao

ok...

My belief is that the specific gravity should be checked, and,
I personally believe in mixing up the solution and using it to
top off batteries with.....IF...they've been in service for years.
(let's say 5 or more...yes...i guess at it)

Must be a regional thing...

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As to dropping the batteries on the floor. Let's not do it above more
than a foot for novice's......me....I test my luck and do it at up to
3
feet at times. Why? I've been told years ago, and have READ since,
that doing so cause's the acumulation on the plates to come loose
resulting in the electrolyte (specific gravity) to come back close, if
not
to, normal. Yes I do it. Sometimes the batteries work out
ok...sometimes they don't. (oh well) It's not my battery, it's not
my
money, I'm not gonna sell him one unless I try everything I know that
"MIGHT" work for him.

I don't see how dropping a battery can be good considering the
high CCA types typically have very thin very fragile plates.
Plus, with the price of scrap lead going up, I'd rater get max
value from the scrap guy, which may not happen necessarily if the
case is cracked.

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After all......he may be dumb enough to bring me a gravy frontend
job
if I get him out cheap on this one. (of course..i will check the
system
the right way first....i'm dumb...not stupid)

Why would he be dumb for bringing you a front end job?

Quote:

As to the cost of batteries.....why do you think he's here??
He's cheap.

Not everyone who comes here is here because they're cheap, some
just want a little heads up because auto repair can be confusing
and intimidating.

Quote:

You hired me to help these cheap fuckers out.
So....i'm giving him cheap ass options.
It's me job.

Many years ago, an old mechanic who was schooling me used to say,
"The main thing is the main thing."
What's the main thing?

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As to your listed testing proceedures........he's not capable, he
doesn't have the tools, equipment, fortitude, or sticktoitness.....it
takes to get
the job done. Basically.....he's gonna guess. So...let's give him
some
EASY things to do....then.....if he reposts and says it didn't
work.....
we'll all laugh at his ass, have a drink to him, and tell him to go
see
a tech that has the tools to check the freek'n thing out RIGHT for
him.

IAWYTP!

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As to the electrolyte killing his battery........his freek'n
batteries
already shot. 9 years old? lol....try the electrolyte. It's cheap.
Could it cause more harm than good? 9 years old? Doubtfull
at this point...but yes, i'll concede to the
possibility....but...he's
chunk'n coins call'n heads......I'll give him the quater.

Temperatures here range from 26 degrees below zero to 108 degrees
above. (we may have been near those two extremes on Monday)
The worst and the worst for a battery.
Again, it must be a regional thing... we don't usually take
chances with something that can put a customer in peril.

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As to the guy that's changin his oil and not checking his fluid levels
for him........come on Cuda....the fk'r won't even carry the thing in
to
have his charging system checked. lol He can blame himself for the
fluid level deal is my guess.

I hear ya!

Quote:

As to the New Years Resolution.............
GL with that aye.....

I think I've razzed you enough.
Maybe just a little more once in a while.

Quote:

~:~
marsh
~wipes the grease off'n Cuda's $269 impact gun......there....
he'll never know~
~:~

Just don't let me catch you putting a torque stick on it. ;-)

#26

Marsh Monster wrote:

Quote:

On Jan 7, 9:01�am, Mike Dobony <sw... (AT) asarian-hostspamnot (DOT) net> wrote:
Of course you check the level first you total moron! You NEVER add acid
to a used battery to top it off as this will quickly destroy the
battery. �When a cell needs topping off you ONLY use distilled water to
top it off.

The remainder of your advice was good, except it totally ignored the
point of the question, are the two problems possibly related. �Now you
totally ruined it by your insanity.

Go ahead and yell. �It still doesn't make your advice any less
destructive. �I don't feel like destroying a good battery.

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Let me clarify......for you Mr.Tech........

I was refering to the charge condition of the electrolit mixture
as in a chemical mixture....not pop'n the fk'n tops off...........
poke'n yer fanger in the hole to see how low the fluid level was.

(notice...how i diddddnt even yell

and........
YOU'RE FREEK'N WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I, me, personally, myself, ...........add electrolite to used
batteries.

So you like to destroy your batteries quickly and often. I rarely go
through batteries due to PROPER care, topping off with distilled water
and only when the cells are low (topping off, not your insane comment
about just dumping water in without checking, doing some strong
hallucinogen, huh?). I have never had to take a battery in for a
warranty replacement. Mine last years longer than the warranty. My
Toyota OE battery lasted 8 years with proper care. The GMC lasted 7
years before it needed replacing (it took me 5 years to get more than
25,000 miles on it and sat unused for weeks at a time).

BTW, with no service (other than the initial charge and driving it for a
few days) the battery is now holding a charge. Whatever was running it
down is not doing that. It only discharged overnight for 2 days. Now
it is doing fine. Still have the error code showing up regularly. As
soon as I get some time I need to check the two sensors the code indicates.

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Now......what the rest of the free world is up to out there...God
only
knows......or....maybe God and you.

anywhoooooooooooo..........

as stated before.......GL with yer project Mr.Tech.
hope it all works out well fer yee.

~:~
MARSHMONSTER
~takes a sip of his mushroom tea...........enters a realm where most
are scared to go~
~:~

#27

In article
<a4b080dc-7642-42c9-bb83-6bba6896c1d3 (AT) k39g2000hsf (DOT) googlegroups.co
m>,
Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2624 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

THE KING HAS SPOKEN..........
LONG LIVE THE KING..............

Elvis?

Quote:

~:~
marsh
~takes a sip of his crownroyal........overnights a new Devilbiss
to the king~
~:~

Sata ;-)~

#28

In article
<5ed5f160-119d-48eb-9b0d-c359faf8df6e (AT) l1g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com

Quote:

,
Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2624 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

On Jan 11, 7:25?pm, aarcuda69062 <nonel... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:
In article <4FThj.20$ib7.11@trndny04>,
?"Refinish King" <diagnostic... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Hey Marshy:

I was invited to a technical seminar/Bullshit meeting at Yusa/Exide. They
actually said if you have a battery that is gelling up in the winter, or
not
holding a good charge. To remove the old fluid. Then replace with fresh
electrolyte.

We used Exide batteries for a while when I worked at Wisconsin
Gas Company, for any given battery shipment, at least 40% were
DOA. ?They gave us that same spiel 18 years ago, because they
knew at the time that their electrolyte was batched wrong.
i.e., "defective."

FYI, it's 'Yuasa' not "Yusa"...

I'm sure some of the self righteous will argue, but this was right from
Exide. I was invited because I sold over 200 batteries in a year.

Marshy would be interested in replacing batteries because??
(he beats the crap out of 'em instead, I guess that wakes them up
or something)

RK

PS
Some of the self righteous are appropriately kill filed.

IOWs, head in the sand.

=========
=========
Cuda......
kings me buddy....from way back.

How far is that?

Quote:

anywhooooo.......
dropping the battery can, will, has been known to release the
caking on the plates from the acid that's accumulated on them....
possibly letting the specific gravity come back close to norm, if not
completely to norm.
A crap shoot.....yes. But..it will work on some.

I got some cores, I'll play a little this weekend.

Quote:

~:~
marsh
~pours one fer duh cuda.......refills duh kings glass......guess's
he's gonna have to go to the files and find some data.....
dammit gumby.....whenever will i ever deuydecimal......oh well~
~:~

#29

I pass by their Pa plant/warehouse at least once a month Marshy.

I used to have a DOA problem with Exide about 30 years ago. But that was
then.

Sulfated plates are the most common reason for failed batteries.

The Danville, Pa Dealer's Exchange, actually a dealer auction. Has a
concession stand, where the guy chemically remanufactures batteries. He
flushes out the acid, puts in what he calls: "A secret chemical" then adds
new electrolyte.

Do you guys have anything like that in Florida Marshy?

RK
"Marsh Monster" <MarshMonster2624 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

On Jan 11, 7:25�pm, aarcuda69062 <nonel... (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

In article <4FThj.20$ib7.11@trndny04>,
�"Refinish King" <diagnostic... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Hey Marshy:

I was invited to a technical seminar/Bullshit meeting at Yusa/Exide.
They
actually said if you have a battery that is gelling up in the winter, or
not
holding a good charge. To remove the old fluid. Then replace with fresh
electrolyte.

We used Exide batteries for a while when I worked at Wisconsin
Gas Company, for any given battery shipment, at least 40% were
DOA. �They gave us that same spiel 18 years ago, because they
knew at the time that their electrolyte was batched wrong.
i.e., "defective."

FYI, it's 'Yuasa' not "Yusa"...

I'm sure some of the self righteous will argue, but this was right from
Exide. I was invited because I sold over 200 batteries in a year.

Marshy would be interested in replacing batteries because??
(he beats the crap out of 'em instead, I guess that wakes them up
or something)

RK

PS
Some of the self righteous are appropriately kill filed.

IOWs, head in the sand.

=========
=========
Cuda......
kings me buddy....from way back.

anywhooooo.......
dropping the battery can, will, has been known to release the
caking on the plates from the acid that's accumulated on them....
possibly letting the specific gravity come back close to norm, if not
completely to norm.
A crap shoot.....yes. But..it will work on some.

~:~
marsh
~pours one fer duh cuda.......refills duh kings glass......guess's
he's gonna have to go to the files and find some data.....
dammit gumby.....whenever will i ever deuydecimal......oh well~
~:~

#30

LOL

You da man!

RK

PS
Have any of your techs tried to get the keys out of a Volvo lately?
"Marsh Monster" <MarshMonster2624 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

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"Refinish King" <diagnostic... (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
Hey Marshy:

I was invited to a technical seminar/Bullshit meeting at Yusa/Exide.
They actually said if you have a battery that is gelling up in the
winter, or not holding a good charge. To remove the old fluid. Then
replace with fresh electrolyte.
I'm sure some of the self righteous will argue, but this was right
from
Exide. I was invited because I sold over 200 batteries in a year.

RK

PS
Some of the self righteous are appropriately kill filed.
===============
===============

FINALLY...........SOMEONE WITH BONDO FOR BRAINS !!!

THE KING HAS SPOKEN..........
LONG LIVE THE KING..............

~:~
marsh
~takes a sip of his crownroyal........overnights a new Devilbiss
to the king~
~:~