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Default 2002 Blazer Bucking, Temperature Gauge goes bonkers - 12-06-2007 , 09:32 AM






Any feedback appreciated.

2002 Blazer V6

Anyone seen anything like this?

Cars bucks, usually twice, intermittently at between 15 and 70 miles
highway driving. Gets worse with time. Never happens during city
driving.

Temperature gauge goes from max low to max high when problem occurs.
Tach, Electrical, and other instruments remain in normal range.

Engine does not miss in neutral when the problem starts. (2000 rpms)

Turn motor off for a few minutes, restart and things are ok for a
while.

No codes sets in ECM.

Has been to three dealers and no one can find a problem.

Checked transmission fluid. (Level ok, Clear and no burning smell.)

Tuned up recently.

Transmission rebuilt under warranty by GM. Warranty now expired.



Assuming it is a transmission issue, is there any explanation for the
link between the temperature gauge and the bucking? Other than the
ground, is there some link via a sensor or electrical connection?



Could an improper install of a satellite radio system cause electrical
issues for other components? Is this worth looking at? Owner does
not recall having the problem before the installation of the satellite
radio.





Additional Information: Aftermarket automatic started had to be
removed several years ago. It was tripping MIL.





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Default Re: 2002 Blazer Bucking, Temperature Gauge goes bonkers - 12-06-2007 , 09:59 AM






On Dec 6, 7:32 am, jnez... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
Any feedback appreciated.

2002 Blazer V6

Anyone seen anything like this?

Cars bucks, usually twice, intermittently at between 15 and 70 miles
highway driving. Gets worse with time. Never happens during city
driving.

Temperature gauge goes from max low to max high when problem occurs.
Tach, Electrical, and other instruments remain in normal range.

Engine does not miss in neutral when the problem starts. (2000 rpms)

Turn motor off for a few minutes, restart and things are ok for a
while.

No codes sets in ECM.

Has been to three dealers and no one can find a problem.

Checked transmission fluid. (Level ok, Clear and no burning smell.)

Tuned up recently.

Transmission rebuilt under warranty by GM. Warranty now expired.

Assuming it is a transmission issue, is there any explanation for the
link between the temperature gauge and the bucking? Other than the
ground, is there some link via a sensor or electrical connection?

Could an improper install of a satellite radio system cause electrical
issues for other components? Is this worth looking at? Owner does
not recall having the problem before the installation of the satellite
radio.

Additional Information: Aftermarket automatic started had to be
removed several years ago. It was tripping MIL.
Why do you assume that this is a transmission issue?

No, there is no way the installation of a sat radio has caused this.
In all my years of installing and selling auto electronics, had the
improper installation of somethng that simple, caused any such
problems.

I am thinking you might have a problem with the ECU.


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Default Re: 2002 Blazer Bucking, Temperature Gauge goes bonkers - 12-06-2007 , 10:34 AM



On Dec 6, 9:59 am, azwiley1 <wiley... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
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On Dec 6, 7:32 am, jnez... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:





Any feedback appreciated.

2002 Blazer V6

Anyone seen anything like this?

Cars bucks, usually twice, intermittently at between 15 and 70 miles
highway driving. Gets worse with time. Never happens during city
driving.

Temperature gauge goes from max low to max high when problem occurs.
Tach, Electrical, and other instruments remain in normal range.

Engine does not miss in neutral when the problem starts. (2000 rpms)

Turn motor off for a few minutes, restart and things are ok for a
while.

No codes sets in ECM.

Has been to three dealers and no one can find a problem.

Checked transmission fluid. (Level ok, Clear and no burning smell.)

Tuned up recently.

Transmission rebuilt under warranty by GM. Warranty now expired.

Assuming it is a transmission issue, is there any explanation for the
link between the temperature gauge and the bucking? Other than the
ground, is there some link via a sensor or electrical connection?

Could an improper install of a satellite radio system cause electrical
issues for other components? Is this worth looking at? Owner does
not recall having the problem before the installation of the satellite
radio.

Additional Information: Aftermarket automatic started had to be
removed several years ago. It was tripping MIL.

Why do you assume that this is a transmission issue?

No, there is no way the installation of a sat radio has caused this.
In all my years of installing and selling auto electronics, had the
improper installation of somethng that simple, caused any such
problems.

I am thinking you might have a problem with the ECU.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Thanks for the suggestion. I found a post by someone who was having a
similar problem when the radio was on. Also thought it really strange
that the after-market auto starter was tripping the MIL.

Should I get a code from the ECU? Is there any link to the
temperature gauge? It is an absolute predictor of the problem. Temp.
gauge starts fluctuating, car bucks.


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Default Re: 2002 Blazer Bucking, Temperature Gauge goes bonkers - 12-06-2007 , 02:03 PM



It sounds like a bad ground problem!

There is a series of ground wires on the top of the transmission, on the
bolt or on the back of either head.

Also, there are a few ground wires bolted to either the thermostat housing,
or on one of the intake manifold bolts.

Another area you might want to look at carefully is, the ground wire on the
battery terminal, to the body. Run your fingers over it, and carefully feel
for swollen areas.

Check the braided ground straps from the firewall to the engine also.

I hope this helps.

RK
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Quote:
On Dec 6, 9:59 am, azwiley1 <wiley... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
On Dec 6, 7:32 am, jnez... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:





Any feedback appreciated.

2002 Blazer V6

Anyone seen anything like this?

Cars bucks, usually twice, intermittently at between 15 and 70 miles
highway driving. Gets worse with time. Never happens during city
driving.

Temperature gauge goes from max low to max high when problem occurs.
Tach, Electrical, and other instruments remain in normal range.

Engine does not miss in neutral when the problem starts. (2000 rpms)

Turn motor off for a few minutes, restart and things are ok for a
while.

No codes sets in ECM.

Has been to three dealers and no one can find a problem.

Checked transmission fluid. (Level ok, Clear and no burning smell.)

Tuned up recently.

Transmission rebuilt under warranty by GM. Warranty now expired.

Assuming it is a transmission issue, is there any explanation for the
link between the temperature gauge and the bucking? Other than the
ground, is there some link via a sensor or electrical connection?

Could an improper install of a satellite radio system cause electrical
issues for other components? Is this worth looking at? Owner does
not recall having the problem before the installation of the satellite
radio.

Additional Information: Aftermarket automatic started had to be
removed several years ago. It was tripping MIL.

Why do you assume that this is a transmission issue?

No, there is no way the installation of a sat radio has caused this.
In all my years of installing and selling auto electronics, had the
improper installation of somethng that simple, caused any such
problems.

I am thinking you might have a problem with the ECU.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks for the suggestion. I found a post by someone who was having a
similar problem when the radio was on. Also thought it really strange
that the after-market auto starter was tripping the MIL.

Should I get a code from the ECU? Is there any link to the
temperature gauge? It is an absolute predictor of the problem. Temp.
gauge starts fluctuating, car bucks.


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Stirgen
 
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Default Re: 2002 Blazer Bucking, Temperature Gauge goes bonkers - 12-07-2007 , 12:06 PM



On Dec 6, 9:32 am, jnez... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
Any feedback appreciated.

2002 Blazer V6

Anyone seen anything like this?

Cars bucks, usually twice, intermittently at between 15 and 70 miles
highway driving. Gets worse with time. Never happens during city
driving.

Temperature gauge goes from max low to max high when problem occurs.
Tach, Electrical, and other instruments remain in normal range.

Engine does not miss in neutral when the problem starts. (2000 rpms)

Turn motor off for a few minutes, restart and things are ok for a
while.

No codes sets in ECM.

Has been to three dealers and no one can find a problem.

Checked transmission fluid. (Level ok, Clear and no burning smell.)

Tuned up recently.

Transmission rebuilt under warranty by GM. Warranty now expired.

Assuming it is a transmission issue, is there any explanation for the
link between the temperature gauge and the bucking? Other than the
ground, is there some link via a sensor or electrical connection?

Could an improper install of a satellite radio system cause electrical
issues for other components? Is this worth looking at? Owner does
not recall having the problem before the installation of the satellite
radio.

Additional Information: Aftermarket automatic started had to be
removed several years ago. It was tripping MIL.
Hello

Hello

I had a similar problem that sounds like the the one you describe but
it was due to a blown head gasket.

I have a 4.3L V6 that blew a head gasket recently. The introduction
of coolant and oil into one of the the combustion cylinders was
causing the engine to run rough due to the imbalance of forces on the
engine. The cylinders must all produce an equal amount of force during
the combustion cycle for it to run smoothly and this unfortunately
doesn't happen when your burning a mixture of anti-freeze, oil and
gasoline in one or more cylinders. The leakage became so bad that
the car eventually stalled out.

So after it stalled I noticed that the temperature gauge was way
high. When I went to check the coolant levels I noticed they were
abnormally low. Once the head gasket goes the cooling system
eventually becomes de-pressurized resulting in a temperature spike in
the cooling system. You also begin losing alot of coolant. I drove it
like this with no problems for a long time until it blew and I lost a
hell of a lot of coolant before it went and didn't even realize it.

This may not be the cause but maybe you have a very small head gasket
leak into one of the cylinders. I am not sure how you would diagnose
something like that unless you had a way to check the coolant level
accurately or verify the cooling system is continuously and adequately
pressurized during normal operation. The temperature increase may be
due to steam production inside the cylinder and the bucking you
describe may be due to an imbalance of forces on the engine caused by
lack of combustion in one or more cylinders. This condition would be
unnoticeable if it were a very small leak and you were doing normal
city driving. I usually drove mine for short trips with a leaking
head gasket with no noticeable problems in engine performance.
Eventually the leak became much more worse and could no longer be
ignored.


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Default Re: 2002 Blazer Bucking, Temperature Gauge goes bonkers - 12-07-2007 , 01:12 PM



On Dec 7, 12:06 pm, Stirgen <rgin... (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Dec 6, 9:32 am, jnez... (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:





Any feedback appreciated.

2002 Blazer V6

Anyone seen anything like this?

Cars bucks, usually twice, intermittently at between 15 and 70 miles
highway driving. Gets worse with time. Never happens during city
driving.

Temperature gauge goes from max low to max high when problem occurs.
Tach, Electrical, and other instruments remain in normal range.

Engine does not miss in neutral when the problem starts. (2000 rpms)

Turn motor off for a few minutes, restart and things are ok for a
while.

No codes sets in ECM.

Has been to three dealers and no one can find a problem.

Checked transmission fluid. (Level ok, Clear and no burning smell.)

Tuned up recently.

Transmission rebuilt under warranty by GM. Warranty now expired.

Assuming it is a transmission issue, is there any explanation for the
link between the temperature gauge and the bucking? Other than the
ground, is there some link via a sensor or electrical connection?

Could an improper install of a satellite radio system cause electrical
issues for other components? Is this worth looking at? Owner does
not recall having the problem before the installation of the satellite
radio.

Additional Information: Aftermarket automatic started had to be
removed several years ago. It was tripping MIL.

Hello

Hello

I had a similar problem that sounds like the the one you describe but
it was due to a blown head gasket.

I have a 4.3L V6 that blew a head gasket recently. The introduction
of coolant and oil into one of the the combustion cylinders was
causing the engine to run rough due to the imbalance of forces on the
engine. The cylinders must all produce an equal amount of force during
the combustion cycle for it to run smoothly and this unfortunately
doesn't happen when your burning a mixture of anti-freeze, oil and
gasoline in one or more cylinders. The leakage became so bad that
the car eventually stalled out.

So after it stalled I noticed that the temperature gauge was way
high. When I went to check the coolant levels I noticed they were
abnormally low. Once the head gasket goes the cooling system
eventually becomes de-pressurized resulting in a temperature spike in
the cooling system. You also begin losing alot of coolant. I drove it
like this with no problems for a long time until it blew and I lost a
hell of a lot of coolant before it went and didn't even realize it.

This may not be the cause but maybe you have a very small head gasket
leak into one of the cylinders. I am not sure how you would diagnose
something like that unless you had a way to check the coolant level
accurately or verify the cooling system is continuously and adequately
pressurized during normal operation. The temperature increase may be
due to steam production inside the cylinder and the bucking you
describe may be due to an imbalance of forces on the engine caused by
lack of combustion in one or more cylinders. This condition would be
unnoticeable if it were a very small leak and you were doing normal
city driving. I usually drove mine for short trips with a leaking
head gasket with no noticeable problems in engine performance.
Eventually the leak became much more worse and could no longer be
ignored.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Thanks for replying. I think coolant level is remaining normal. When
the temperature gauge acts up, which is followed by the car acting up,
the gauge starts floating low, then spikes occasionally. I will be
checking the ground wires I can find as recommended by the previous
post. Really difficult problem to understand.


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