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Default 2wd body on 4wd - 07-03-2003 , 10:44 PM






I looking for any information about swapping a 2wd body on to 4wd
frame. I have a 1986 2wd truck that the body is in great shape but
the engine is in need of repair and a 4wd 1986 that the body is rough
but has a new crate motor that runs great. I am not sure if it would
be easier to replace the engine or swap the body. It would be nice to
have the 4wd system but I have not did an off frame project before. I
am a rookie wrench that can get the job done when needed. My first
concern is the cab of the 2wd fitting on the 4wd frame due to the
transfer case. They are both the same year...long bed trucks and
would make a great truck once joined together as one.

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Jay Anderson
 
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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-03-2003 , 11:54 PM






i have a 48 Mercury sitting on a 79 blazer full time 4x4 chassis.....body
mounts had to be modified of course but it wasnt really all too......if the
2wd truck you have is the the same make as the 4x4 you are tinkin about
swapping it to....it shouldnt be too bad....
"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I looking for any information about swapping a 2wd body on to 4wd
frame. I have a 1986 2wd truck that the body is in great shape but
the engine is in need of repair and a 4wd 1986 that the body is rough
but has a new crate motor that runs great. I am not sure if it would
be easier to replace the engine or swap the body. It would be nice to
have the 4wd system but I have not did an off frame project before. I
am a rookie wrench that can get the job done when needed. My first
concern is the cab of the 2wd fitting on the 4wd frame due to the
transfer case. They are both the same year...long bed trucks and
would make a great truck once joined together as one.



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Bruce
 
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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-04-2003 , 06:33 AM



You should be good to go. Cut away for the shift lever and go for it.

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Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I looking for any information about swapping a 2wd body on to 4wd
frame. I have a 1986 2wd truck that the body is in great shape but
the engine is in need of repair and a 4wd 1986 that the body is rough
but has a new crate motor that runs great. I am not sure if it would
be easier to replace the engine or swap the body. It would be nice to
have the 4wd system but I have not did an off frame project before. I
am a rookie wrench that can get the job done when needed. My first
concern is the cab of the 2wd fitting on the 4wd frame due to the
transfer case. They are both the same year...long bed trucks and
would make a great truck once joined together as one.



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Jeff Gross
 
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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-04-2003 , 07:56 PM



Go for it. I'm doing a far more major swap and even this isn't that bad.
My guess is that you *might* have to change over a cross member, but that
should be about it.

Cheers,
- Jeff G
http://jeffgross/com/willys


rookie wrote:

Quote:
I looking for any information about swapping a 2wd body on to 4wd
frame. I have a 1986 2wd truck that the body is in great shape but
the engine is in need of repair and a 4wd 1986 that the body is rough
but has a new crate motor that runs great. I am not sure if it would
be easier to replace the engine or swap the body. It would be nice to
have the 4wd system but I have not did an off frame project before. I
am a rookie wrench that can get the job done when needed. My first
concern is the cab of the 2wd fitting on the 4wd frame due to the
transfer case. They are both the same year...long bed trucks and
would make a great truck once joined together as one.


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rookie
 
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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-04-2003 , 09:51 PM



Bruce...

In talking with some mechanics they stated that I would need to change
the transmission tunnel in the cab to make this work due to the 2wd
drive does not allow for the tranfers case. Is this correct???

Rookie

"Bruce" <bwm (AT) nospam (DOT) ec.rr.com> wrote

Quote:
You should be good to go. Cut away for the shift lever and go for it.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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I looking for any information about swapping a 2wd body on to 4wd
frame. I have a 1986 2wd truck that the body is in great shape but
the engine is in need of repair and a 4wd 1986 that the body is rough
but has a new crate motor that runs great. I am not sure if it would
be easier to replace the engine or swap the body. It would be nice to
have the 4wd system but I have not did an off frame project before. I
am a rookie wrench that can get the job done when needed. My first
concern is the cab of the 2wd fitting on the 4wd frame due to the
transfer case. They are both the same year...long bed trucks and
would make a great truck once joined together as one.

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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-04-2003 , 11:35 PM



The cabs should be the same for both. KB

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and the irony of it is that if it is a comfort or money it values more,
it will lose it too.
"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Bruce...

In talking with some mechanics they stated that I would need to change
the transmission tunnel in the cab to make this work due to the 2wd
drive does not allow for the tranfers case. Is this correct???

Rookie

"Bruce" <bwm (AT) nospam (DOT) ec.rr.com> wrote

You should be good to go. Cut away for the shift lever and go for it.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c9f87e2c.0307031944.3beda8fd (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I looking for any information about swapping a 2wd body on to 4wd
frame. I have a 1986 2wd truck that the body is in great shape but
the engine is in need of repair and a 4wd 1986 that the body is rough
but has a new crate motor that runs great. I am not sure if it would
be easier to replace the engine or swap the body. It would be nice to
have the 4wd system but I have not did an off frame project before. I
am a rookie wrench that can get the job done when needed. My first
concern is the cab of the 2wd fitting on the 4wd frame due to the
transfer case. They are both the same year...long bed trucks and
would make a great truck once joined together as one.



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Don Quixote
 
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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-05-2003 , 01:13 PM



rookie might have said:

['86 2wd cab to 4wd frame swap]


I did the earlier generation: a '8x 2wd cab onto a '78 4wd frame.
In my case I had the choice of lifting the cab (Ewwww) or cutting
out the driveline hump from the 2wd and bolting in the lifted
hump from the 4wd cab. I did the latter with no problems, and
very few saw blades. A good torch and a steady hand might go quicker,
I dunno.

Once old cab is off, check the mounts, eh? Being cheap I welded in
the biggest galvanised washers I could get and didn't replace mounts.


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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-06-2003 , 09:14 AM



Yeah they don't restamp the cab shapes for 4x4 or 4x2. It should be the
same.

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Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Bruce...

In talking with some mechanics they stated that I would need to change
the transmission tunnel in the cab to make this work due to the 2wd
drive does not allow for the tranfers case. Is this correct???

Rookie

"Bruce" <bwm (AT) nospam (DOT) ec.rr.com> wrote

You should be good to go. Cut away for the shift lever and go for it.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c9f87e2c.0307031944.3beda8fd (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I looking for any information about swapping a 2wd body on to 4wd
frame. I have a 1986 2wd truck that the body is in great shape but
the engine is in need of repair and a 4wd 1986 that the body is rough
but has a new crate motor that runs great. I am not sure if it would
be easier to replace the engine or swap the body. It would be nice to
have the 4wd system but I have not did an off frame project before. I
am a rookie wrench that can get the job done when needed. My first
concern is the cab of the 2wd fitting on the 4wd frame due to the
transfer case. They are both the same year...long bed trucks and
would make a great truck once joined together as one.



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Elbert Clarke
 
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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-27-2003 , 01:05 AM



I believe the 4wd is a little different around the cab area over the
transmission. You'll have to do some cutting to clear the transfer
case shifter

On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 23:58:48 -0600, "gm@2600mhz"
<gnospammurray (AT) pmt (DOT) org> wrote:

Quote:
Its a very simple swap the bodies and frames are exactly the same, No
manufacturer has ever made a 4x4 body or frame different from a 2 wheel
drive set up. Frame rails and body mounts will line up correctly.
"Bruce" <bwm (AT) nospam (DOT) ec.rr.com> wrote in message
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Yeah they don't restamp the cab shapes for 4x4 or 4x2. It should be the
same.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Bruce...

In talking with some mechanics they stated that I would need to change
the transmission tunnel in the cab to make this work due to the 2wd
drive does not allow for the tranfers case. Is this correct???

Rookie

"Bruce" <bwm (AT) nospam (DOT) ec.rr.com> wrote in message
news:<kCdNa.146961$_w.7016174 (AT) twister (DOT) southeast.rr.com>...
You should be good to go. Cut away for the shift lever and go for it.

--
Bruce
99 White WJ 4x4 Select Trac
89 YJ
03 Liberty Ltd L.O.S.T #000256
90 XJ6 Sovereign

"rookie" <internetranking (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:c9f87e2c.0307031944.3beda8fd (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I looking for any information about swapping a 2wd body on to 4wd
frame. I have a 1986 2wd truck that the body is in great shape but
the engine is in need of repair and a 4wd 1986 that the body is
rough
but has a new crate motor that runs great. I am not sure if it would
be easier to replace the engine or swap the body. It would be nice
to
have the 4wd system but I have not did an off frame project before.
I
am a rookie wrench that can get the job done when needed. My first
concern is the cab of the 2wd fitting on the 4wd frame due to the
transfer case. They are both the same year...long bed trucks and
would make a great truck once joined together as one.



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Elbert Clarke
eeclarke (AT) earthlink (DOT) net
elbert.clarke (AT) us (DOT) army.mil


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Jeremy Chavers
 
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Default Re: 2wd body on 4wd - 07-28-2003 , 01:55 PM



It's not actually that much different - the center of the floorpan from a
*manual* shift 2wd will fit a 4x4 with no modifications. The *automatic*
2wd will need to have the floorpan worked on a bit - I've got this
conversion waiting for me at my father's house, as the cab on my '79 4x4 is
completely shot (see: rustholes around windshield) and I was given a 2wd cab
from a '78 Texas truck that's almost mint - even still has carpet in pretty
good shape.


HTH


Jeremy



"The Nolalu Barn Owl" <gordie (AT) nolalu (DOT) on.ca> wrote

Quote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 23:58:48 -0600, "gm@2600mhz"
gnospammurray (AT) pmt (DOT) org> wrote:

Its a very simple swap the bodies and frames are exactly the same, No
manufacturer has ever made a 4x4 body or frame different from a 2 wheel
drive set up. Frame rails and body mounts will line up correctly.

I am not an expert but have a 2wd and also a 4wd in the yard and I
believe I can see this:

- The bodies are exactly the same

- The floor pans around the area of the "hump" or otherwise called the
"tunnel" are different with the 4wd hump being higher to clear the
transfer case.

- The frames have different crossmembers because of the different
hardware like the transfercase. I cannot tell if the frames have the
same holes in them or not.

Seems to me that you would have to have two trucks and will wind up
with one for the road and one for the boneyard after all your efforts.
Not a cheap, convenient or easy way to do things when the Factory has
already done all the work already. It is not like you would end up
with a custon rig - Is it?

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Gordie



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