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Default Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-26-2004 , 02:26 AM






In the near future, I plan to repaint my '86 Chevy rally wheels... An
auto paint supply told me to use etching primer and 2K urethane paint.
What say ye? Would this hold up well to the moisture and heat inside the
wheel/tire... would it also hold up to rocks and road debris?
Thanks.... GC


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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-26-2004 , 09:46 PM






Yes:

And yes, but over the self etching primer. Use a good urethane or epoxy high
build primer/surfacer. To add a good solid ground coat, and help absorb
stone impact.

Also, use a good base coat/clear coat paint.

Refinish King


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In the near future, I plan to repaint my '86 Chevy rally wheels... An
auto paint supply told me to use etching primer and 2K urethane paint.
What say ye? Would this hold up well to the moisture and heat inside the
wheel/tire... would it also hold up to rocks and road debris?
Thanks.... GC




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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-27-2004 , 12:07 AM



Thanks alot, RKing!
Would that same system work well for painting the body?


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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-27-2004 , 01:55 AM



Hmmm intersesting topic, not to hijack the thread, but does anyone (maybe
R.King.) know what to use to replicate the flat grey textured paint on early
2nd gen Z-28 5 spoke rally rims? I've just stripped 4 down to the bare ass,
now I'm not sure what to use to appear factory finish.
Thanks


"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness (AT) nevermind (DOT) net> wrote

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Yes:

And yes, but over the self etching primer. Use a good urethane or epoxy
high
build primer/surfacer. To add a good solid ground coat, and help absorb
stone impact.

Also, use a good base coat/clear coat paint.

Refinish King


"GC" <gmbuus (AT) webtv (DOT) net> wrote in message
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In the near future, I plan to repaint my '86 Chevy rally wheels... An
auto paint supply told me to use etching primer and 2K urethane paint.
What say ye? Would this hold up well to the moisture and heat inside the
wheel/tire... would it also hold up to rocks and road debris?
Thanks.... GC






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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-27-2004 , 02:34 AM



Like this..... http://members.shaw.ca/luke76/Photos/Z28cleanrim.JPG
to look like this..... http://members.shaw.ca/luke76/Photos/Z28spare-1.JPG

QUOTE from http://nastyz28.com/2gcog/stegmiller/z28_wheels.htm

"The early wheels with the Bowtie caps were painted with a special gray paint with a flattening agent and a pebble finish agent added to get a finish that simulates the rough surface of a "mag" wheel. This paint was available from Ditzler as DDL-32961, but Ditzler dealers are phasing out lacquer paints so it is no longer available. Ditzler has a different paint to replace this. The later wheels with the Z28 caps were painted body color."

My problem herein is that I've never heard of Ditzler, maybe because I'm in Canada, I don't know.
Any help would be appreciated.



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Hmmm intersesting topic, not to hijack the thread, but does anyone (maybe
R.King.) know what to use to replicate the flat grey textured paint on early
2nd gen Z-28 5 spoke rally rims? I've just stripped 4 down to the bare ass,
now I'm not sure what to use to appear factory finish.
Thanks



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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-27-2004 , 04:56 PM



Yes!

Refinish King


"GC" <gmbuus (AT) webtv (DOT) net> wrote

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Thanks alot, RKing!
Would that same system work well for painting the body?




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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-27-2004 , 05:04 PM



It was textured rocker panel spray:

tremco was the brand GM used. It was black and dried as hard as a rock.

I color keyed a lot of those wheel spoke areas, to match the car color. So I
know exactly what you're looking to do. Spray a coat of PPG Epoxy LF, with
LF 401 catalyst, in the colored areas when you mask them off, then after the
lf 40 dries, spray the Tremco textured coating, then wait for a complete
dry, then follow up with more LF 40 epoxy.

Then a base coat!

Then use K93 Clear primer sealer over the whole wheel when you un mask the
painted area, only lightly dusting the painted area. That will be a good
sealer and adhesion promoter, then use 2021 or 2082 PPG clear. The wheels
will be virtually indestructible to stone chips. Not be phased by dog piss
and no brake dust will ever stick to it.

Refinish King


"Demon" <noway (AT) forgetit (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hmmm intersesting topic, not to hijack the thread, but does anyone (maybe
R.King.) know what to use to replicate the flat grey textured paint on
early
2nd gen Z-28 5 spoke rally rims? I've just stripped 4 down to the bare
ass,
now I'm not sure what to use to appear factory finish.
Thanks


"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness (AT) nevermind (DOT) net> wrote in message
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Yes:

And yes, but over the self etching primer. Use a good urethane or epoxy
high
build primer/surfacer. To add a good solid ground coat, and help absorb
stone impact.

Also, use a good base coat/clear coat paint.

Refinish King


"GC" <gmbuus (AT) webtv (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:28234-412D9091-240 (AT) storefull-3132 (DOT) bay.webtv.net...
In the near future, I plan to repaint my '86 Chevy rally wheels... An
auto paint supply told me to use etching primer and 2K urethane paint.
What say ye? Would this hold up well to the moisture and heat inside
the
wheel/tire... would it also hold up to rocks and road debris?
Thanks.... GC








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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-27-2004 , 05:07 PM



Ditzler is PPG!

Ditzler was the original name of the company, then Pittsburgh Plate glass
bought them out in the 40's, and in the 80's decided to push the PPG name
above the Ditzler name?

Corporate geniuses at work.

Refinish King


"Demon" <noway (AT) forgetit (DOT) com> wrote

Like this..... http://members.shaw.ca/luke76/Photos/Z28cleanrim.JPG
to look like this..... http://members.shaw.ca/luke76/Photos/Z28spare-1.JPG

QUOTE from http://nastyz28.com/2gcog/stegmiller/z28_wheels.htm

"The early wheels with the Bowtie caps were painted with a special gray
paint with a flattening agent and a pebble finish agent added to get a
finish that simulates the rough surface of a "mag" wheel. This paint was
available from Ditzler as DDL-32961, but Ditzler dealers are phasing out
lacquer paints so it is no longer available. Ditzler has a different paint
to replace this. The later wheels with the Z28 caps were painted body
color."

My problem herein is that I've never heard of Ditzler, maybe because I'm in
Canada, I don't know.
Any help would be appreciated.



"Demon" <noway (AT) forgetit (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Hmmm intersesting topic, not to hijack the thread, but does anyone (maybe
R.King.) know what to use to replicate the flat grey textured paint on
early
2nd gen Z-28 5 spoke rally rims? I've just stripped 4 down to the bare
ass,
now I'm not sure what to use to appear factory finish.
Thanks




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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-27-2004 , 05:51 PM



RKing... you're a miracle worker!
That sounds like something far removed from the usual waste of time, one
gets from buying the trash auto parts stores sell!
The ONLY paint i've ever found at a APS that was even _half_ usable was
Plasti-Coat... and naturally they don't even sell it anymore.
Thanks again, RK!


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Default Re: Best Paint For Steel Wheels? - 08-27-2004 , 06:46 PM



Hey RK,

I noticed a "new hip trend" some of the folks running fart cans,
and rubber bands are using to "trick out" their rides.
Good old textured and toned trunk spray..... Just saw a show the other
night where some west coast outfit was claiming they
found it first... Guess they never bothered to look in the trunk of
most of the 30-80's cars. Heck the local Wal~Mart even has it on the
shelf, next to the neon lights and salad slicer wheel covers..

--
Steve Williams



"Refinish King" <noneofyourbusiness (AT) nevermind (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
It was textured rocker panel spray:

tremco was the brand GM used. It was black and dried as hard as a
rock.

I color keyed a lot of those wheel spoke areas, to match the car
color. So I
know exactly what you're looking to do. Spray a coat of PPG Epoxy LF,
with
LF 401 catalyst, in the colored areas when you mask them off, then
after the
lf 40 dries, spray the Tremco textured coating, then wait for a
complete
dry, then follow up with more LF 40 epoxy.

Then a base coat!

Then use K93 Clear primer sealer over the whole wheel when you un mask
the
painted area, only lightly dusting the painted area. That will be a
good
sealer and adhesion promoter, then use 2021 or 2082 PPG clear. The
wheels
will be virtually indestructible to stone chips. Not be phased by dog
piss
and no brake dust will ever stick to it.

Refinish King




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