To buy new or to build?

#11

Rick J. wrote:

Quote:

Charles Bendig <rarepartshunter (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in
news:ZidLe.57795$B52.6425 (AT) tornado (DOT) ohiordc.rr.com:

Rick J. wrote:

Been thinking about whether to buy a new truck or to build what I
want from an older truck. If I buy new it would be:

3500, reg cab, srw, duramax diesel, six speed, 4wd

If I go the build-it route, it will start with an 82 to 87 K20, a
mild small block, an nv4500 or maybe a richmond six speed, the new
atlas 4 speed transfer case, dynatrac axles front and rear with air
lockers and lots of other goodies.

To build the truck from scratch takes lots of time and quite a bit of
money. Buying a new truck takes a small amount of time but lots of
money. The build it truck will be more fun. The new truck carries
more prestige. I'm in the construction business so, whether I like it
or not, prestige counts with customers.

If you can afford it, go for both.

I can't afford both.

I would. Use the New truck for
work,
the other for play. You can find Clean K-10's or K-20's on Ebay in
Texas, Kansus, Florida, Gorgia, and a few other states. A K-30 uses a
larger frame. 8 inch for the K-10 & K-20, 10 Inch on the K-30.
Personially I would start with a K-30.

I thought the reg cab k30 (non c+c) and k20 had the same frame and the
K10 was the one that was different (smaller).

Both in C & K between 73 to 87 All 10's & 20's used the same frame. The
30's had the big frame. With the small frame trucks the only differances
between them are springs, axles, front suspension (on 2WD or C models).
Charles

#12

"SnoMan" <UseLinkToEmail (AT) AutoForumz (DOT) com> wrote

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Not me the, Dmax truck and chaasis is not half the truck a built up 82
to 87 would be hands down. Those old trucks were tuff and you could
easily add a D60 to the front of one for big rubber and the diesel
engine adds about 500 lbs to front of truck and why in the world would
you want to add weight to the front of a off road truck (kinda like
off roading with the weight of a snow plow up there) with a very
limited RPM range when you could trick out a "RAT" motor and get HP
and a RPM range to "clean the tires" that diesel owners can only
dream off. A good offroad truck needs power over a wide RPM range,
not just a 1000 RPMs or so. Also I hate that damn brush, stump and
rock catcher cross member that GM put below the frame rails with the
Silverados.

Gee is that why the best off road trucks in the world are ALL diesel
powered?
Hummer, UniMog, Land Cruisers (real ones not the current US import
toys).
For REAL off road work you need a LOW RPM high torque powerplant, that
way you can idle your way through the real tough crap. Gas engines can
work but not as well as a diesel for real power.

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#13

Per Rick J.:

Quote:

Buying a new truck takes a small amount of time but lots of money.
The build it truck will be more fun. The new truck carries more prestige.
I'm in the construction business so, whether I like it or not, prestige

Would insurance replacement value be a consideration?

Older truck ==> Low replacement value regardless of how much it's been improved.
--
PeteCresswell

#14

"mudmonkey" wrote:

Quote:

the argurment can go both ways, build a good truck that suits your
company’s needs looks good, but dont forget about the appearance
a new
truck provides. Me I would prefer function over form, so I would
lean
towards the built for the task truck. What would you be doing mostly
with the truck, hauling the cargo or doing administative work?

Another serious factor here for offroad work is that a diesel uses a
LOT of air (about 2x to 4x more air) in normal use offroad so it is
harder on filtering system and while water injestion is not good for
either engine a diesel will suffer more quickly and more severely to
water injestion than a gas motor will.

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"user" wrote:

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Per Rick J.:

Older truck ==> Low replacement value regardless of how much
it’s been improved.

No exactly, you can specify a dollar amoun that the truck is worth
when you take out insurance for it and premium will be based on that
amount.

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#16

Snoman, you make some good points, but from the original post, I got the
idea that Rick wanted a work truck to haul tools and supplies to a jobsite
and transportation to meet with his clients. I didn't get the idea that he
wanted an off road truck. I think we're comparing apples to oranges here.
Paul

Quote:

Not me the, Dmax truck and chaasis is not half the truck a built up 82
to 87 would be hands down. Those old trucks were tuff and you could
easily add a D60 to the front of one for big rubber and the diesel
engine adds about 500 lbs to front of truck and why in the world would
you want to add weight to the front of a off road truck (kinda like
off roading with the weight of a snow plow up there) with a very
limited RPM range when you could trick out a "RAT" motor and get HP
and a RPM range to "clean the tires" that diesel owners can only
dream off. A good offroad truck needs power over a wide RPM range,
not just a 1000 RPMs or so. Also I hate that damn brush, stump and
rock catcher cross member that GM put below the frame rails with the
Silverados.

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#17

SnoMan wrote:

Quote:

"user" wrote:

Per Rick J.:

Older truck ==> Low replacement value regardless of how much
it’s been improved.

No exactly, you can specify a dollar amoun that the truck is worth
when you take out insurance for it and premium will be based on that
amount.

Not so, I did this with a modified snowmobile & when it was stolen 10

months after I insured it I was given "fair market value" for it. If you
do not have receipts for every single penny you spent on it (parts &
labor), you won't get what it's insured for. When I complained to the
agent about this scenario he said the insurance company (Citizens in
this case) will gladly take any premium money you want to give them -
what coverage you actually get is "fair market value". He said customers
"SHOULD" know this! Read your fine print - I was burned.

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