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Default A/C problem - 04-02-2009 , 11:17 PM






I am having a A/C problem on a 1996 chevy suburban. The A/C is not
blowing cold air and compressor is not engaging. I First checked the
pressure on low side which read zero. I then charged the system with
the ac on full blast. The ressure is at 35 with hardly any of the can
going in so I knew the compressor was not engaging. I then checked
the accumulator by passenger side and it gets voltage when I hit the
AC button. I then checked the wire that leads to front of AC
compressor by the pully and I dont see any volatage going to there
with everything on. There is also a some wires going to the backside
of the compressor but I did not check those yet. Any ideas on what to
check to see if I can get the AC clutch to engage. - Thanks for any
advice

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Default Re: A/C problem - 04-03-2009 , 06:58 PM






On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:17:55 -0700 (PDT), mprodman (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
I am having a A/C problem on a 1996 chevy suburban. The A/C is not
blowing cold air and compressor is not engaging. I First checked the
pressure on low side which read zero. I then charged the system with
the ac on full blast. The ressure is at 35 with hardly any of the can
going in so I knew the compressor was not engaging. I then checked
the accumulator by passenger side and it gets voltage when I hit the
AC button. I then checked the wire that leads to front of AC
compressor by the pully and I dont see any volatage going to there
with everything on. There is also a some wires going to the backside
of the compressor but I did not check those yet. Any ideas on what to
check to see if I can get the AC clutch to engage. - Thanks for any
advice
Damn, that's a good question. :-) It is entirely possible that
your AC system is full of lubricant and not refrigerant. That can
happen if the AC system was not properly drained of lubricant in
the past when new refrigerant was added. The cans one buys at auto
parts stores contain both lubricant and gas, and as it says on the
label the lubricant inside the automobile's AC system often has to
be pumped out since it isn't usually drained via gravity.

The AC system, as it sounds like you already know, has a pressure
switch that monitors the gas pressure: if the gas pressure is too
low, the pump will not turn on--- it is as if there is no
electricity going to it at all. If you have too much lubricant in
the system, you will not be able to fill it with gas and the
pressure switch will stay "off."

Then again I could be 100% wrong.


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Default Re: A/C problem - 04-04-2009 , 08:33 AM




"Desertphile" <desertphile (AT) invalid-address (DOT) net> wrote

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On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 20:17:55 -0700 (PDT), mprodman (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

I am having a A/C problem on a 1996 chevy suburban. The A/C is not
blowing cold air and compressor is not engaging. I First checked the
pressure on low side which read zero. I then charged the system with
the ac on full blast. The ressure is at 35 with hardly any of the can
going in so I knew the compressor was not engaging. I then checked
the accumulator by passenger side and it gets voltage when I hit the
AC button. I then checked the wire that leads to front of AC
compressor by the pully and I dont see any volatage going to there
with everything on. There is also a some wires going to the backside
of the compressor but I did not check those yet. Any ideas on what to
check to see if I can get the AC clutch to engage. - Thanks for any
advice

Damn, that's a good question. :-) It is entirely possible that
your AC system is full of lubricant and not refrigerant. That can
happen if the AC system was not properly drained of lubricant in
the past when new refrigerant was added. The cans one buys at auto
parts stores contain both lubricant and gas, and as it says on the
label the lubricant inside the automobile's AC system often has to
be pumped out since it isn't usually drained via gravity.

The AC system, as it sounds like you already know, has a pressure
switch that monitors the gas pressure: if the gas pressure is too
low, the pump will not turn on--- it is as if there is no
electricity going to it at all. If you have too much lubricant in
the system, you will not be able to fill it with gas and the
pressure switch will stay "off."

Then again I could be 100% wrong.


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"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz
If the low side is reading 0 PSI then I suspect that the system has leaked
down
and lost it's refrigerant. If that is the case you need to connect a vacuum
pump and
pull a negative pressure on the system in order to refill it with the proper
refrigerant.
You should also add a can of refrigerant dye to the system and look for
leaks
since the system leaked down.
Those "auto store" refill kits are pretty much worthless when a system has
leaked down to 0 pressure.
You can force the compressor to turn on by momentarily touching a jumper
wire across the contacts
of the connector that plugs into the pressure switch.
A good set of proper AC gages, vacuum pump, refrigerant, and know-how make
this job a lot easier and safer.
I have about 550 bux tied up in just a set of gages and vacuum pump and more
yet for Temperature /pressure differential
charts and certification to be able to buy refrigerant.
My advice is to take the truck to a shop with a rep for having a good AC
tech and get it done right.
You have to decide if the cost is worth it or not. At this point it sound
like you are over your head,
no offense intended.

Regards
JR





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Default Re: A/C problem - 04-09-2009 , 01:51 PM



Quite seriously You know just enough to be DANGEROUS! when it comes to AC
Your Suburban needs the LEAK FIXED, then evacuated and then FULLY Charged
with R134a

THEN you will have a functioning AC system.
Buy walfart cans and putting them in is DANGEROUS and wasteful!
Do you pour Jack Daniels into a cracked and leaking glass? It wastes good
Whiskey!

<mprodman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I am having a A/C problem on a 1996 chevy suburban. The A/C is not
blowing cold air and compressor is not engaging. I First checked the
pressure on low side which read zero. I then charged the system with
the ac on full blast. The ressure is at 35 with hardly any of the can
going in so I knew the compressor was not engaging. I then checked
the accumulator by passenger side and it gets voltage when I hit the
AC button. I then checked the wire that leads to front of AC
compressor by the pully and I dont see any volatage going to there
with everything on. There is also a some wires going to the backside
of the compressor but I did not check those yet. Any ideas on what to
check to see if I can get the AC clutch to engage. - Thanks for any
advice



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