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Default Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-17-2007 , 10:09 PM






Now that I have my catastropic failure addressed, another thing I
noticed on my recent trip is that at about 70mph, I start getting a
vibration, it's a very slow one compared to speed. Kind of a whump
every second or two, on and off. Doesn't go away completely in
between but kind of winds up more every other second or so. It's not
a horrible truck is gonna fall apart one, but it was enough to keep me
below 70. Last time I did any highway driving over 70 was a few
months ago and definitely didn't have it then. Truck is an 89 K3500
454 th400.

Thanks in advance,
Ed


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Default Re: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-17-2007 , 10:38 PM







"89GMC" <dziarcak (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Now that I have my catastropic failure addressed, another thing I
noticed on my recent trip is that at about 70mph, I start getting a
vibration, it's a very slow one compared to speed. Kind of a whump
every second or two, on and off. Doesn't go away completely in
between but kind of winds up more every other second or so. It's not
a horrible truck is gonna fall apart one, but it was enough to keep me
below 70. Last time I did any highway driving over 70 was a few
months ago and definitely didn't have it then. Truck is an 89 K3500
454 th400.

Thanks in advance,
Ed

Sounds like maybe a steel belt shifted in a tire.

Brian




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Default Re: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-18-2007 , 02:03 AM



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Sounds like maybe a steel belt shifted in a tire.

Brian
At 70mph, a shifted steel belt in the tire is going to show up as more than
vibrating every second or two. Can you hear or feel which part of the
vehicle it seems to be coming from?




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Default Re: Re: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-18-2007 , 08:31 AM



On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:03:39 GMT, "Augustus" <no_one (AT) nowhere (DOT) net>
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At 70mph, a shifted steel belt in the tire is going to show up as more than
vibrating every second or two. Can you hear or feel which part of the
vehicle it seems to be coming from?

Remove driveshaft and have it balanced if ujoints check out okay. The
reason it cycles is that he is getting a harmonic vibration and it
sound like it is starting in driveshaft.
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Default Re: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-18-2007 , 09:37 AM




"89GMC" <dziarcak (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Now that I have my catastropic failure addressed, another thing I
noticed on my recent trip is that at about 70mph, I start getting a
vibration, it's a very slow one compared to speed. Kind of a whump
every second or two, on and off. Doesn't go away completely in
between but kind of winds up more every other second or so. It's not
a horrible truck is gonna fall apart one, but it was enough to keep me
below 70. Last time I did any highway driving over 70 was a few
months ago and definitely didn't have it then. Truck is an 89 K3500
454 th400.

Do you feel the vibration under your feet? Under your ass? In your hands? Do
you feel it only at 70+ mph? Have you tried to duplicate in different gears?
Trying to determine if it is rpm sensitive or just MPH sensitive.




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Default Re: Re: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-18-2007 , 09:43 AM




"SnoMan" <admin (AT) snoman (DOT) com> wrote

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On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:03:39 GMT, "Augustus" <no_one (AT) nowhere (DOT) net
wrote:

At 70mph, a shifted steel belt in the tire is going to show up as more
than
vibrating every second or two. Can you hear or feel which part of the
vehicle it seems to be coming from?


Remove driveshaft and have it balanced if ujoints check out okay. The
reason it cycles is that he is getting a harmonic vibration and it
sound like it is starting in driveshaft.
Perhaps if the u joints are okay he could put a worm clamp on the shaft and
try moving it around to see what happens before he goes to the aggrevation
and expense of pulling the shaft and sending it out.

Or perhaps he should check his motor and transmission mounts first.

But hell, I'm sorry what do I know? I'm just a troll.




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Default Re: Re: Re: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-18-2007 , 12:26 PM



On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:43:19 -0400, "Roy" <Roy (AT) home (DOT) net> wrote:

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Perhaps if the u joints are okay he could put a worm clamp on the shaft and
try moving it around to see what happens before he goes to the aggrevation
and expense of pulling the shaft and sending it out.

Or perhaps he should check his motor and transmission mounts first.

But hell, I'm sorry what do I know? I'm just a troll.

Well you are a troll sometimes by some of your very actions but your
idea has some merit but experiance has taught me the GM driveshafts
are rarely balanced well from factory and as they age, flex and rust
they tend to go out of balance even more and make their imbalance
known if way such as this. One way to give more insite as to whether
it is a balance problem is to place vehicle in neutral at that speed
and if it is a balance issue it will not change it much at all. It is
does change a lot it may be ujoints. If it was motor mounts it would
show itself at speeds other than this and be of different nature.
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Default Re: R e: R e: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-18-2007 , 12:28 PM



On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:11:29 -0500, Heatwave
<M3LT1NG5N0WM3N (AT) WAH00 (DOT) COM> wrote:

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Yeah Roy you aren't diagnosing anything correctly if you aren't jumping
in there and throwing someone elses money away. To hell with questions
or basic diagnostics! Spend money first!

You mean the H with logic right? Nothing I said was bad advise here
but you would have the original poster chasing his tail if it was up
to you.
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Default Re: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-18-2007 , 12:58 PM



Per SnoMan:
Quote:
One way to give more insite as to whether
it is a balance problem is to place vehicle in neutral at that speed
and if it is a balance issue it will not change it much at all.
Which begs a question that's been in the back of my mind for awhile: will it
damage a GM automatic transmission (4L60) to put it in neutral while the vehicle
is moving.

Might sound like an inane question, but I'm pretty sure that somewhere I read an
instruction manual that cautioned against putting the transmission in question
into neutral while the vehicle was under way.
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Default R e: R e: Odd vibration at 70mph+ - 03-18-2007 , 01:11 PM



In article <etjfm10av7 (AT) news1 (DOT) newsguy.com>, Roy (AT) home (DOT) net says...
Quote:
"SnoMan" <admin (AT) snoman (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:e6cqv2tn670k737qfrmj0p3fbk7mda43tc (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:03:39 GMT, "Augustus" <no_one (AT) nowhere (DOT) net
wrote:

At 70mph, a shifted steel belt in the tire is going to show up as more
than
vibrating every second or two. Can you hear or feel which part of the
vehicle it seems to be coming from?


Remove driveshaft and have it balanced if ujoints check out okay. The
reason it cycles is that he is getting a harmonic vibration and it
sound like it is starting in driveshaft.

Perhaps if the u joints are okay he could put a worm clamp on the shaft and
try moving it around to see what happens before he goes to the aggrevation
and expense of pulling the shaft and sending it out.

Or perhaps he should check his motor and transmission mounts first.

But hell, I'm sorry what do I know? I'm just a troll.
Yeah Roy you aren't diagnosing anything correctly if you aren't jumping
in there and throwing someone elses money away. To hell with questions
or basic diagnostics! Spend money first!



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