Re: A/C question

#41

Quote:

I'll see if I can post a pic of it tomorrow. It's a solid weather-pak
connector. The parts guy said it would be for 94 and up...
_________-

94 and up? It can't have R-12 in it! LOL just kidding.

#42

Took some pics, they can be seen over here:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?M2C432165

It's the last pic, sorry it's a little blurry. The rest are to show
the evap cover, with the sticker facing the fender, not the hood, and
the compressor saying it's R-12 under pressure.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:04:58 GMT, "Scott M" <scottm@.com> wrote:

Quote:

I'll see if I can post a pic of it tomorrow. It's a solid weather-pak
connector. The parts guy said it would be for 94 and up...
_________-

94 and up? It can't have R-12 in it! LOL just kidding.

#43

Why bother with a steelwheel when you can have aluminum?

"steelwheel" <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote

Quote:

Neil Nelson <nonelson (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
nonelson-F054AE.08281523072003 (AT) ...ws.prodigy.com>,

In article <4BeTa.33464$o27.529469 (AT) twister (DOT) rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"Steve Barker" <railphotonut (AT) not (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote:

What the hell is a "barrier" hose, and what does the MY stand for?

Oooops... ignore the snide remark about "experience" in my
other reply to this post, major brain fart on my part
thinking I was responding to Squealwheel.

And your excuse for failing to read the From: line is what?
Barking Steve is not me. Get a clue, oh pompous ass.

#44

In article <3f1fd6bb.70639484 (AT) low (DOT) range>,
steelwheel <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote:

Quote:

Oh, so your difficulty in reading the "from" field stems
from what?

How incredibility ironic.

Nothing ironic at all. I recognized my mistaken post
immediately and issued and explanation/correction.
You being slow on the up take, had to have it pointed out to
you. <go figure>

Quote:

That a 1994 MY vehicle could not have possibly left the
factory with R-12 in it.

And how does your childish invective point this out?

Sorry, I don't see what you're referring to. Are there pink
Elephants or great big bunnies associated with it?

Quote:

You've yet to do anything but toss around
feeble attempts at insults.

Gee, the person that started it is now complaining.
Isn't -that- precious?

Care to show me where I started anything?

Gladly:

[begin copy]
In article <3f1be67f.140017774 (AT) low (DOT) range>,
steelwheel <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote:
:> One retard is very much like another. If you are going
:>to jump into
:> the middle of a conversation without identifying
:>yourself, don't be
:> surprised if you're mistaken for the dope you're
:>defending.
[end copy]

Quote:

Not necessary. You're wrong, plain and simple. many 1994
vehicles were manufactured with R-12 as the factory
refrigerant fill.

So far, I've seen pictures of one.

And if you had the knowlege and experience that you claim,
you wouldn't even need that "one."

Quote:

So fucking what? Like it couldn't wait until the stores
opened on Monday?

I deal with Usenet bullshit on my schedule, not yours.

Well -that- explains it!

Quote:

Well, it would be more telling about you than me since you
were the first to resort to insults.

I'm still waiting for you to show me where I started anything,
cumquat.

Okay, since you're so thick, I'll post it again:

[begin copy]
In article <3f1be67f.140017774 (AT) low (DOT) range>,
steelwheel <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote:
:> One retard is very much like another. If you are going
:>to jump into
:> the middle of a conversation without identifying
:>yourself, don't be
:> surprised if you're mistaken for the dope you're
:>defending.

[end copy]

Quote:

Are you going to start crying now?

Would that turn you on, faggot? Your provocative homosexual flirting
is wasted on me. I'm hetro.

What homosexual flirting would that be? And thanks for
answering the previous question BTW.

Quote:

What sort of proof would you like? Is the proof posted by
another here in this group showing the labels, fitting and
state vehicle inspection sticker (verifying model year)
insufficient? Or were you confused by what was contained in
the pictures?

Since you did not post any evidence, my claim that you are unable to
prove your own points still stands.

Wrong. You were/are invited to my shop today to view in
person a 1994 Lincoln Continental which originally came from
the factory with R-12 as the factory refrigerant fill.
I could post pictures, but that would only allow you another
excuse to claim that it's "Impossible."

Quote:

You require the assistance of a
better man than yourself.

Like -that- makes any sense..

Quote:

No, not a lie.

Yes, a lie. You claimed that "You've yet to demonstrate that you know
anything about air conditioning."
While, in a previous post you admit that I did demonstrate something
about air conditioning.

Yes, but it was after the fact. It would have at that point
took you less than 2 minutes to search the correct answer on
the web, so although you -may- know something now about air
conditioning, the assertion still stands that at the time I
posted, based upon all the inaccuracies in your original
reply to Mike Levy, you did not in fact know anything about
air conditioning.
On the otherhand, I could very well be wrong, but being
wrong is not the same as a lie, if it were so, I and others
would have resorted to the same childish tactics and merely
called -you- a liar when you post(ed) erronius information.

Quote:

Kneel:
]-why- the accumulator would
]need to be specific to the refrigerant.

Me:
]The dessicant is not compatable with R-134a lubricants.

Kneel again:
]Give Bozo a point.

So, either you lied above when you claimed that I haven't demonstrated
any A/C knowledge, or you're just too damned stupid to remember what
you write from one post to the next. Your choice.

Try to follow along, okay? You posted that after, which
means you may know -something- now and you may have known
-something- at the time that you posted your answer but it
in no way retroacticely indicates you posessed any knowlege
at the time I made my original comment.

Quote:

You claimed that all vehicles sold in the
U.S. since 1993 used R-134a, Steve W posted links to
pictures showing a 1994 S series Blazer with an R-12 system,

No thanks to you. You let others do what you are incapable of doing
for yourself.

I have yet to understand why you think redundancy would help
your case any. One set of pictures was posted, what more
could you possibly need? The fact that I wasn't in
possession of a 1994 MY vehicle at the opportune time
detracts not one bit from the fact that I am correct and you
were wrong.
On the other hand, if you think red herring tactics are
going to help you here, by all means, make an even bigger
ass of yourself.

Quote:

Right, logical arguement. Give us -your- logical arguement
against the proof that Steve W posted earlier.

You attempt to adopt Steve W's simple response to a request for facts
as your own virtue.

I did no such thing.

Quote:

You didn't post any proof, so you do not deserve
to gain by such a posting.

Piss off you insecure little twit.

Quote:

What a gutless, sniveling frootloop you
are, Kneel.

In your dreams Mr. Know-it-all.

Quote:

Because the proof of you being wrong has already been
offered.

Not by you, cupcake.

And why would doing it a second time matter?
You were proven wrong, it is highly irrelevant who provided
the visual proof. Unless you are a masochist and enjoy
having your nose rubbed in it via repeated examples.
Or is because in you stupid simple little mind; my not
having a model year 1994 R-12 vehicle, a digital camera and
speedy internet access all together at the same time equates
to you actually having been correct and me being wrong?
<har>

Quote:

Not my point Sherlock, it's yours to keep and do with as you
wish. (remember, I gave it -to- you)

What would I want with the point on top of your sloped skull?

Well, at least you'd have a point.

Quote:

Which means nothing.

Which means that your claim to the effect that 'Gm was slow in
switching over' is erroenous.

No, it means I'm correct since it proves that GM was slow in
making the change by virtue of the fact that they only
managed to accolplish in one division what other
manufacturers had done to their whole fleet.

Quote:

No surprise there. Since they were one
of the first to *start* switching over, how could they also be *slow*
to do so?

Because only one division made the initial change, the
others followed along later, that equals "slow."
One division accomplishing something ahead of the whole
corporation does not equate to the entire corporation.

Quote:

Nice try. The invectives were started by you.

Evidence that I started name-calling? Oh, wait...maybe Steve W. will
find that for you.

For a third time:

[begin quote]
In article <3f1be67f.140017774 (AT) low (DOT) range>,
steelwheel <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote:
:> One retard is very much like another. If you are going
:>to jump into
:> the middle of a conversation without identifying
:>yourself, don't be
:> surprised if you're mistaken for the dope you're
:>defending.
[end quote]

#45

In article <3f20db13.71751793 (AT) low (DOT) range>,
steelwheel <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote:

Quote:

Neil Nelson <nonelson (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
nonelson-F054AE.08281523072003 (AT) ...ws.prodigy.com>,

In article <4BeTa.33464$o27.529469 (AT) twister (DOT) rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"Steve Barker" <railphotonut (AT) not (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote:

What the hell is a "barrier" hose, and what does the MY stand for?

Oooops... ignore the snide remark about "experience" in my
other reply to this post, major brain fart on my part
thinking I was responding to Squealwheel.

And your excuse for failing to read the From: line is what?
Barking Steve is not me. Get a clue, oh pompous ass.

Ohhhhh...ya got me now!!!

Oh, wait.... No you don't, since I'm big enough to admit my
mistakes.

#46

In article <3f21db56.71818389 (AT) low (DOT) range>,
steelwheel <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote:

Quote:

"Steve Barker" <railphotonut (AT) not (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote in message
fEeTa.23722$7O4.512047 (AT) twister (DOT) rdc-kc.rr.com>,

The problem is WE DON'T HAVE TO "PROVE" ANYTHING TO YOU! YOU are the one
that is wrong, so it should be your burden of proof to your claim.

Read up on rules of evidence and the burden of proof. You will look
less-stupid after you learn something.

Read up on the difference between a court room and usenet.

#47

In article <1059091937.55621 (AT) web (DOT) velocity.net>,
"highrider71" <highrider71 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Why bother with a steelwheel when you can have aluminum?

Because self important half-wits pretending to be something
they're not are a source of entertainment.

#48

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 16:47:22 GMT, Mike Levy
<mike-newsgroups (AT) levyclan (DOT) us> wrote:

Quote:

Would this
mean the pressure switch is bad and I can take this to the shop with
the recovery equipment to have them replace the switch?

Mike, no matter what refrigerant it's got in it, the cycling switch
has a shrader valve behind it. Unscrew it, screw the new one in it's
place. Takes like 5 minutes, and a 5/8" wrench or a pair of pliers.

--
Old Crow
'82 FLTC 92" Shovel 'Pearl'
TOMKAT, SENS, BS#133, DOF#51, MAMBM
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech
Chevy Certified Master Tech

#49

I have a 94 Chevy made in November of 93 it has the 134 . Maybe the
difference is that I live in California?
"steelwheel" <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote

Quote:

Neil Nelson <nonelson (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
nonelson-063C53.20495720072003 (AT) ...ws.prodigy.com>,

In article <3f1c2054.89284434 (AT) low (DOT) range>,
steelwheel <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote:

"Steve Barker" <railphotonut (AT) not (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote in message
GjESa.30017$6a3.440308 (AT) twister (DOT) rdc-kc.rr.com>,

Call your local parts store and make up a vehicle. Say you want a
price on
a condenser for a 1994 whatever machine. The next question out of
their
mouth is going to be "is it r12 or r134a?"

Hardly. As it is sunday evening, no local parts stores are open. So,
I went to the Auto Zone web site and looked up a condenser for a 1994
Jeep Wrangler. At no point did they ask about R-12.

All 1994 Chrysler products came with R-134a.
All 1993 (first year) Chrysler LH chassis vehicles came with
R-134a.

You're the one who said to pick a 'whatever'. Feel free to provide
your own examples in the future. Oh, and just for shits and giggles,
I repeted the search using a 1994 GMC Jimmy...still no mention of
refrigerant.

You picked a unique example for your check with Auto Zoo.

GM and Ford were a little slow in switching over.

Cadillac was an early adopter.

#50

Is yours a Blazer or an S series. The S pickups in 94 could be either one
since they were the newer body style. The full sizes were 134A due to the
redesign also. The 94 S-Blazers were R-12, the next year were the newer body
style and 134A.

--
Fort Plain NY

"ryan" <ryan (AT) c-zone (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

I have a 94 Chevy made in November of 93 it has the 134 . Maybe the
difference is that I live in California?
"steelwheel" <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote in message
news:3f1bb580.127473767 (AT) low (DOT) range...
Neil Nelson <nonelson (AT) sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote in message
nonelson-063C53.20495720072003 (AT) ...ws.prodigy.com>,

In article <3f1c2054.89284434 (AT) low (DOT) range>,
steelwheel <invalid (AT) ddress (DOT) nospam> wrote:

"Steve Barker" <railphotonut (AT) not (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote in message
GjESa.30017$6a3.440308 (AT) twister (DOT) rdc-kc.rr.com>,

Call your local parts store and make up a vehicle. Say you want a
price on
a condenser for a 1994 whatever machine. The next question out of
their
mouth is going to be "is it r12 or r134a?"

Hardly. As it is sunday evening, no local parts stores are open.
So,
I went to the Auto Zone web site and looked up a condenser for a 1994
Jeep Wrangler. At no point did they ask about R-12.

All 1994 Chrysler products came with R-134a.
All 1993 (first year) Chrysler LH chassis vehicles came with
R-134a.

You're the one who said to pick a 'whatever'. Feel free to provide
your own examples in the future. Oh, and just for shits and giggles,
I repeted the search using a 1994 GMC Jimmy...still no mention of
refrigerant.

You picked a unique example for your check with Auto Zoo.

GM and Ford were a little slow in switching over.

Cadillac was an early adopter.

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