Will GM follow suit?

#11

Jason Sobol wrote:

Quote:

funny, Navistar is just taking money from themselves in a way, since
they provide Ford with the PowerStroke Diesel engine (and working as
a lube tech/mechanic myself, if you look on the valve covers of a
Ford F250/350 with the PowerStroke diesel, it says right on it
International Navistar....but in the places I worked, you cant get a
new CXT in there LOL) I, as a Chevy and somewhat of a Dodge truck
person, amd very glad to see Ford loosing something on the Commercial
end of things

GO INTERNATIONAL!!! LOL

Jason

Ford owns International, so they are not losing anything.

#12

Remo wrote:

Quote:

http://money.cnn.com/2004/09/13/pf/autos/monster_truck/index.htm?cnn=yes
New Navistar pickup towers over offerings from Hummer,
Ford - Sep. 13, 2004

They said they only plan on selling 50 this year. Not exactly a big number.

"We can see it as a vehicle for business people who want to make a distinct
impression. For personal use, it's for people who want to make a statement."
Or maybe bussinesses or contractors would buy them. I had a truck that got
6mpg like this one does, I hated to drive it since I would have to fill it.
No thanks! Make a Dakota, Ranger, or Tacoma with a little 200-250HP diesel
and they will have something!

#13

I thought it was just a partnership

so The Fraud Motor Co. wins anyway

that blows

J

#14

Since when does Ford Motor own International/Navistar?!?

#15

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:56:57 -0400, "xeonpro" <xeonpro (AT) nospam (DOT) com>
wrote:

Quote:

:|Since when does Ford Motor own International/Navistar?!?
they don't... just like they don't own Cummins (another popular

rumor).

-Bret

#16

Really? And does Dodge own Cummins, because they use their engines.
This is the situation with ford.

GMC Gremlin

"Bret Chase" <nunya (AT) business (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:56:57 -0400, "xeonpro" <xeonpro (AT) nospam (DOT) com
wrote:

:|Since when does Ford Motor own International/Navistar?!?
they don't... just like they don't own Cummins (another popular
rumor).

-Bret

#17

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:51:07 GMT, "GMC Gremlin" <death (AT) becomes (DOT) me>
wrote:

Quote:

:|Really? And does Dodge own Cummins, because they use their engines.
:|This is the situation with ford.
:|
:|GMC Gremlin

nope, Cummins owns Cummins, they just have a supply contract w/
DiamlerChrysler for Dodge trucks. According to Cummins' website they
are actively seeking out new contracts... even ones that directly
compete w/ Dodge.

Ford has the same setup w/ Navistar... it's just a supply contract for
their DT433 (7.3 Powerstroke) and their VT365 (6.0l Power stroke)
engines. Ford has used International/Navistar for diesel engines for
more than 20 years now (starting with the 6.9l IDI diesel, then the
7.3 IDI before the powerstroke).

-Bret

Quote:

#18

Ford owns Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover and Aston Martin, along with
their ford and lincoln and Mercury line up.

"Bret Chase" <nunya (AT) business (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:51:07 GMT, "GMC Gremlin" <death (AT) becomes (DOT) me
wrote:

:|Really? And does Dodge own Cummins, because they use their engines.
:|This is the situation with ford.
:|
:|GMC Gremlin

nope, Cummins owns Cummins, they just have a supply contract w/
DiamlerChrysler for Dodge trucks. According to Cummins' website they
are actively seeking out new contracts... even ones that directly
compete w/ Dodge.

Ford has the same setup w/ Navistar... it's just a supply contract for
their DT433 (7.3 Powerstroke) and their VT365 (6.0l Power stroke)
engines. Ford has used International/Navistar for diesel engines for
more than 20 years now (starting with the 6.9l IDI diesel, then the
7.3 IDI before the powerstroke).

-Bret

:|
:|"Bret Chase" <nunya (AT) business (DOT) net> wrote in message
:|news:61kul01vs1ub9rbr39sfkufoh1qvo28nol (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
:|> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:56:57 -0400, "xeonpro" <xeonpro (AT) nospam (DOT) com
:|> wrote:
:|
:|> >:|Since when does Ford Motor own International/Navistar?!?
:|> they don't... just like they don't own Cummins (another popular
:|> rumor).
:|
:|> -Bret
:|

#19

Oh one more thing. International owns Navistart engines. So if you think
about it, Ford Superdutys that have a powerstroke are using an International
Engine.

www.navistar.com

"Bret Chase" <nunya (AT) business (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:51:07 GMT, "GMC Gremlin" <death (AT) becomes (DOT) me
wrote:

:|Really? And does Dodge own Cummins, because they use their engines.
:|This is the situation with ford.
:|
:|GMC Gremlin

nope, Cummins owns Cummins, they just have a supply contract w/
DiamlerChrysler for Dodge trucks. According to Cummins' website they
are actively seeking out new contracts... even ones that directly
compete w/ Dodge.

Ford has the same setup w/ Navistar... it's just a supply contract for
their DT433 (7.3 Powerstroke) and their VT365 (6.0l Power stroke)
engines. Ford has used International/Navistar for diesel engines for
more than 20 years now (starting with the 6.9l IDI diesel, then the
7.3 IDI before the powerstroke).

-Bret

:|
:|"Bret Chase" <nunya (AT) business (DOT) net> wrote in message
:|news:61kul01vs1ub9rbr39sfkufoh1qvo28nol (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
:|> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:56:57 -0400, "xeonpro" <xeonpro (AT) nospam (DOT) com
:|> wrote:
:|
:|> >:|Since when does Ford Motor own International/Navistar?!?
:|> they don't... just like they don't own Cummins (another popular
:|> rumor).
:|
:|> -Bret
:|

#20

spelling error on my part. I ment "Navistar"

"Kiel Uyttenhove" <kielu84 (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

Oh one more thing. International owns Navistart engines. So if you think
about it, Ford Superdutys that have a powerstroke are using an
International Engine.

www.navistar.com

"Bret Chase" <nunya (AT) business (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:k0oul0h48gqckbm6hvdesae5e2ifqmach8 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 01:51:07 GMT, "GMC Gremlin" <death (AT) becomes (DOT) me
wrote:

:|Really? And does Dodge own Cummins, because they use their engines.
:|This is the situation with ford.
:|
:|GMC Gremlin

nope, Cummins owns Cummins, they just have a supply contract w/
DiamlerChrysler for Dodge trucks. According to Cummins' website they
are actively seeking out new contracts... even ones that directly
compete w/ Dodge.

Ford has the same setup w/ Navistar... it's just a supply contract for
their DT433 (7.3 Powerstroke) and their VT365 (6.0l Power stroke)
engines. Ford has used International/Navistar for diesel engines for
more than 20 years now (starting with the 6.9l IDI diesel, then the
7.3 IDI before the powerstroke).

-Bret

:|
:|"Bret Chase" <nunya (AT) business (DOT) net> wrote in message
:|news:61kul01vs1ub9rbr39sfkufoh1qvo28nol (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
:|> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:56:57 -0400, "xeonpro" <xeonpro (AT) nospam (DOT) com
:|> wrote:
:|
:|> >:|Since when does Ford Motor own International/Navistar?!?
:|> they don't... just like they don't own Cummins (another popular
:|> rumor).
:|
:|> -Bret
:|