On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:52:00 +0100, steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:

Well, according to all the tyre manufacturers anyway.

:-)

I always found it a more consistent handling and pleasing experience
not to do that on my 156. YMMV.

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"SteveH" <steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> wrote

I'll second that and add that that they do all the steering and most of the
braking too (>60%?), so grip and tread is pretty handy.

"SteveH" <steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Got any beer with that?

"SteveH" <steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Then you are always wrong.
Look at this:
http://www.michelin.co.uk/michelinuk/en/car-4x4-van/less-worn-tyres-rear/20070314172074.html
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=52
http://www.etyres.co.uk/flashmovies/new-tyres-rear-etyres.htm
http://www.celtictyres.co.uk/front-rear.php

J.D. wrote:
Wouldn't go as far as wrong. The important thing here is:

<quote>
Numerous tests have shown that it is easier to control the front wheels
than those at the rear.
<quote>

But that depends entirely on how good a driver you are.



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"Catman" <catman (AT) rustcuore-sportivo (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Sorry, but now you are wrong. It is not the question who is better driver.
Schumacher is better driver than I am but it doesn't mean that he would
put new tyres in front. Or put it in this way: why would he do that?

On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:45:25 +0100, "GT"
<ContactGT_rem_ov_e_ (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

When the any tyres are likely to hinder you from missing walls, it
might just be worth replacing them..no?

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J.D. wrote:
Because it's a rather simplistic view.

Tell you what, you do it your way, and I'll keep being 'wrong'. How's that.


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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:50:18 +0100, Catman
<catman (AT) rustcuore-sportivo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

When I bought the 156 in 2001, nobody could understand why I chose the
diesel over the petrol except that I must be skint and needed a more
economical car. Even when I pointed out that it was not more fuel
economical (for low mileage me) people still didn't get it. I wanted
the 224 lb-ft of torque at 1700 rpm. Period.

I used to fit the best tyres to the driven wheels but what changed my
mind was what I found on the 156 when I tried the *new* way. The
traction balance was identical to immediately before I had the tyres
changed..there was none of the feeling of driving a different car for
the first few miles after a tyre change. I liked the traction balance
on the 156 so I didn't see a good reason to change it just because I
put new tyres on. That was enough for good old me.

Indeed.. and Michelin says as much but, I'm still not sure how a good
driver can alter the traction balance of a car on today's congested
roads without encouraging oncoming traffic into the adjacent fields.

As I get progressively older but my cars get faster and quicker, the
bit I wonder about is how good a driver I will be in those short
moments before an accident.

Having said all that, my current faux-dragster arrangement means I'll
be compelled, by the motor manufacturer, to ignore Michelin and my own
preferences when I come to my next tyre change. So "ya boo sucks" to
me then! ;-)

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Zathras wrote:
The driver can't alter it, but you as good as make the point up there
'for the first few miles' and then you adjust. Then it becomes a matter
of choice how you want your traction balanced, and if you're prepared to
go through the 'few miles' of re-adjustment when you change tyres.


You won't be a driver at all, you'll be a passenger
Think of the children!


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