Pikey tyres

#41

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:24:16 +0100, steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:

Quote:

Bear in mind that most of the 156s which are starting to go are now 12
years old - that's quite remarkable when you consider how quickly all
cars rotted right up to the mid 90s.

Absolutely. I remember shoving huge amounts of cataloy and fibre glass
on a galvanised Volvo tank in the seventies when the car was 6. I knew
its sills and rear wheel arches intimately!

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Ford have even had issues with the Focus and MkIII Mondeos and rust.

Even so, looking about, most cars do seem to last better than my Alfa
did. My local independent commented on its rust which was a bit
disheartening as they seem to only work on the oldest junk still on
the road. Also, a mobile touch-up firm refused to fix a paint chip due
to unrelated rust nearby! :-(

--
Z
Scotland
Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather (sold)
'Oil' be seeing you..
(Email must have the word 'Alfa' in the
subject line to get through auto-filtering)

#42

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 07:40:05 +0100, Catman
<catman (AT) rustcuore-sportivo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:

Zathras wrote:
It had hoisted the 'bottomless pit' flag and I took the hint.

They do that, don't they though? Bit of sod, though.

If it had been a rep box I wouldn't have felt bad about it but (as
I've said all too often) I think mine was the best looking variant and
colour of the best looking saloon ever built. I would have been well
pleased if it had just had a few more years of stamina. Then I
wouldn't be suffering the embarrassingly sh!te door handles and seats
I've got now.

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This debate has got me thinking in strange ways. Here's an example.. I
wonder if, having owned a diesel Alfa, I'm qualified as a 'petrol
head'? Top Gear didn't cover that though, IIRC, JC liked the 2.4JTD
quite a lot.

I think I'll give you honorary membership

Cool..ta! I'll wear your badge with pride! :-)

--
Z
Scotland
Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather (sold)
'Oil' be seeing you..
(Email must have the word 'Alfa' in the
subject line to get through auto-filtering)

#43

Zathras <webnewsgroup (AT) nospamthanks (DOT) hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

Ford have even had issues with the Focus and MkIII Mondeos and rust.

Even so, looking about, most cars do seem to last better than my Alfa
did. My local independent commented on its rust which was a bit
disheartening as they seem to only work on the oldest junk still on
the road. Also, a mobile touch-up firm refused to fix a paint chip due
to unrelated rust nearby! :-(

Believe me, that rust on a 156 pales into insignificance compared with
the rust you get on early to mid 90s BMWs and Mercedes....
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
Alfa 156 TSpark Sportwagon Veloce Selespeed - Alfa 75 TSpark Lusso -
Ducati 750SS - BMW R100RT - Toyota Prius T-Spirit

#44

Zathras wrote:

Quote:

On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 23:24:16 +0100, steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:

Bear in mind that most of the 156s which are starting to go are now 12
years old - that's quite remarkable when you consider how quickly all
cars rotted right up to the mid 90s.

Absolutely. I remember shoving huge amounts of cataloy and fibre glass
on a galvanised Volvo tank in the seventies when the car was 6. I knew
its sills and rear wheel arches intimately!

Ford have even had issues with the Focus and MkIII Mondeos and rust.

Even so, looking about, most cars do seem to last better than my Alfa
did. My local independent commented on its rust which was a bit
disheartening as they seem to only work on the oldest junk still on
the road. Also, a mobile touch-up firm refused to fix a paint chip due
to unrelated rust nearby! :-(

OTOH mine appears to have no rust at all. Ditto SWMBO's GTV

--
Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2
Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

#45

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:48:43 +0100, steve (AT) italiancar (DOT) co.uk (SteveH)
wrote:

Quote:

Believe me, that rust on a 156 pales into insignificance compared with
the rust you get on early to mid 90s BMWs and Mercedes....

...I would if you'd included Mercedes up to somewhere quite a bit
beyond 2000. I regularly walk past a guy with his own limo business
and the wheel arches and adjacent areas on rather recent E and S Class
stuff beggar belief. As Top Gear joked.."built like a Mercedes"!!

--
Z
Scotland
Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather (sold)
'Oil' be seeing you..
(Email must have the word 'Alfa' in the
subject line to get through auto-filtering)

#46

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:26:44 +0100, Catman
<catman (AT) rustcuore-sportivo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:

OTOH mine appears to have no rust at all. Ditto SWMBO's GTV

I don't doubt it. Maybe mine was thrown together on a Friday? Maybe
it's the weather here? Doesn't really matter now..

Anyway, a prize should go to Rab C for starting the biggest thread in
AAA-R for..er..how long?! 8-O

--
Z
Scotland
Alfa Romeo 156 2.4JTD Veloce Leather (sold)
'Oil' be seeing you..
(Email must have the word 'Alfa' in the
subject line to get through auto-filtering)

#47

Zathras wrote:

Quote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:26:44 +0100, Catman
catman (AT) rustcuore-sportivo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

OTOH mine appears to have no rust at all. Ditto SWMBO's GTV

I don't doubt it. Maybe mine was thrown together on a Friday? Maybe
it's the weather here? Doesn't really matter now..

Our first 116 was a Friday car, I'm sure.

Quote:

Anyway, a prize should go to Rab C for starting the biggest thread in
AAA-R for..er..how long?! 8-O

*ages*

Nearly had a proper flame war as well. SteveH, got any popcorn left?

--
Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 GTV TS 156 V6 2.5 S2
Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk

#48

Catman spoke:

Quote:

When I put the cheapos on the 156 I was wary - first opportunity I
deliberately did a wheel spin, and very hard braking.

Throwing cheap tyres into the mix should serve to complicate the
discussion

We aim to please

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Cornering I was
'cautious' about and the car definitely felt different, but this was with
new tread replacing almost illegal tread.

Within a day or so things calmed down and it now feels sharper handling
than it did with the old rubber on.

I'm not overly surprised. Personally I tend to stick with P6000s cos I
can get them, and I know they do good. Bit like Avons on the Sprint IYSWIM.

Well I've always had P6000s on my Alfas, but the Vredestien on the Mitsi were
a revelation, and so far these <insert unknown make here> on the 156 are more
than satisfactory.

--
Rob Pearson
156 1.9jtd sportwagon (now)
164 V6 Lusso (gone)

#49

Zathras spoke:

Quote:

Bear in mind that most of the 156s which are starting to go are now 12
years old - that's quite remarkable when you consider how quickly all
cars rotted right up to the mid 90s.

Absolutely. I remember shoving huge amounts of cataloy and fibre glass
on a galvanised Volvo tank in the seventies when the car was 6. I knew
its sills and rear wheel arches intimately!

Ford have even had issues with the Focus and MkIII Mondeos and rust.

Even so, looking about, most cars do seem to last better than my Alfa
did.

Our last pair of Jap motors, a Galant and a Scooby, both suffered
excessive rot on the rear wheel arches - the Galant around 6 years old,
the scooby is a '96, so not so bad.

--
Rob Pearson
156 1.9jtd sportwagon (now)
164 V6 Lusso (gone)

#50

Catman <catman (AT) rustcuore-sportivo (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:

Anyway, a prize should go to Rab C for starting the biggest thread in
AAA-R for..er..how long?! 8-O

*ages*

Nearly had a proper flame war as well. SteveH, got any popcorn left?

Sorry, all out of popcorn, but I do have a family sized bag of Doritos
and a slab of beer....
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
Alfa 156 TSpark Sportwagon Veloce Selespeed - Alfa 75 TSpark Lusso -
Ducati 750SS - BMW R100RT - Toyota Prius T-Spirit