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Re: RASCAR Daytona.... -
07-07-2003
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Hi folks, I very much enjoyed last night's race. Sorry again to Neil_C for crashing into him with five or six laps to go. It was my best RASCAR performance to date, and simply got too nervous in this tight pack of cars. Sorry mate! I noticed quite a bit of warping, esp. from T(im?) Pau(l)lin and Jan... while tim was warping consistently, Jan only warped when getting close to him, quite strange. It was great fun drafting with Steve, DGF and Larry for endless laps... we nearly showed'em, boys ;-) Cheers, uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 |
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"EldredP" <eldredp (AT) aol (DOT) comSPAM-OFF> wrote in message news:20030706132714.25815.00001209 (AT) mb-m07 (DOT) aol.com... : Oh, by the way - : Sean, when you're off the pace you really need to pick either a high or low : line. When Dan, Jan and I caught you near the end, your 'middle of the road' : method nearly caused a 4-car pileup... : I also had two other occasions where taking avoiding actions for you put me : into the outside wall. Please try to do better... Thanks. : : Eldred : -- : Help find missing child: Tatianna Ashley Chillcutt from Michigan(info on my : homepage) : Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett : : Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. Eldred, We were near each other on the track quite a bit yesterday. I thought I had done pretty well, especially considering my car had been used as a wall buffer by several cars as the pack past me on two separate occasions. I do always take the highline when being overtaken, though as I have said before, i do make mistakes, I am new to this. You experienced drivers might want to consider the cars on the outside when passing, I managed to stay on the lead lap and quite racey till very near the end of the race. When the pack did catch me and pass, my day was basically ended by lead pack cars bouncing me off the wall as they passed, it is really a very wide track and there is no reason to be that close to the outside wall passing traffic in the dogleg. Save the passes for clean areas on the track. I have been bitched out for not paying attention to cars approaching and to use the F2+space combo, I think that same applies to cars that are overtaking, please, please take care to leave enough room on your outside to get past. I think most of the drivers here could do well to remember that lifting is not a bad thing, and that getting in line to pass traffic is much safer than continueing to fight for a position at the risk of the rest of the field. As for what I did after the damage. I reviewed my replay and found on the restart on lap 72, that eldred and bfarmer (sorry, not sure of your given name) were behind me, by several car lengths. I passed coorzman low on the back stretch, moved high for my entry into the corner and then down to the bottom around three into four. At this point (entry) Eldred you were in my rearview mirror running into the highline but I had plenty of room to move up as I exited four. I was running almost 180 and you were not gaining on me much at all at that point, still, as I went toward the wall on my exit, you did scrap the wall and when you came off the wall continued on down into the side of the 15 bfarmer car. I was simply running my line ahead of you and you were clearly in my rearview mirror the whole time. I had no expectations at that point that you were passing me. I did not see the incident you refer to but I remember being around your group on the previous restart and slowing then accelerating past all three of you as you all seemed to have a very slow restart. I felt up to the point my aero was ruined that I was every bit as fast as you guys and was racing all of you for position. I will stand by the "rule" (?) that I am under no obligation to move over and allow a pass for position. Sorry to be so wordy here but I think I will need specific evidence that I did something wrong here. I am very happy with the way I raced and my day was ended by the actions of others and not through my own mistakes as has been the case in the past. I am very capable of racing the high and low lines at Daytona, I am able to change lines to avoid traffic and wrecks even in the middle of corners without spinning or "losing it". I had no aids turned on (autoclutch=on) and do not need aids at this track. Having said all that, I did make a big mistake and need to apologize to the 162 car(?). On one restart I had a pretty good head of steam up and the cars ahead of me were a good bit slower, I dove low (wrong way) slowing fast on the brakes but was going below the yellow line, I tried to stay above it but the 162 was coming down as well to avoid a car outside and we touched, my right front to his left rear, spinning him and he went off my front end into the infield. Sorry bout that. On another restart Eldred was ahead of me and slowed suddenly, I don't recall why but I shot down again ( gotta learn to move up the track) and was black flagged for passing on the inside on a restart. I feel that was a move to avoid an accident and I should not have been black flagged, but I did pass to the inside. got lucky and served it right before another yellow so did not lose a lap on the stop and go, barely. :-) -- McWhom ----------------------------------------------------------------- |
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"Bamadano" <bamadano (AT) aol (DOT) comnospam> wrote in message news:20030706172439.25717.00000240 (AT) mb-m21 (DOT) aol.com... : >: Oh, by the way - : >: Sean, when you're off the pace you really need to pick either a high or : >low : >: line. When Dan, Jan and I caught you near the end, your 'middle of the : >road' : >: method nearly caused a 4-car pileup... : >: I also had two other occasions where taking avoiding actions for you put : >me : >: into the outside wall. Please try to do better... Thanks. : >: : >: Eldred : : Well I didn't save the replay so I'm not sure who it was but just after I : managed to pass Eldred and Jan I came up on a car that was WAY off the pace in : turn 2-3. I first started low and the slower car started down so I started : up...so did slower car..so I ended up in the wall whick of course let Eldred : and Jan fly back by. This has to be the incident that Eldred is referring to. : *IF* it was you Sean...I sure couldn't figure out which way you were going. : Seemed to be undecided. Next time just pick either high or low and the gaining : car will get around clean. Two decent races for me for a change...2 Daytona : Rascar races in two days...0 incidents! : As always thanks for hosting Eldred. : Dan That was me, this happened right after I had been pushed into the wall twice and was still trying to get my head together and my car back under control. I am sorry. I think it was lap 61. I also have to rescind (sp?) my previous assertion that it was not my fault I was lapped. My misfortune started when the 28 car wrecked. I was far back with Eldred behind me. slowed a little for the wreck but the track cleared and I kept going, then the 28 came unglued from the wall and down the track, right where I had aimed :-( I really didn't have much choice as Eldred was going high and my best option was to stay off the gas and pray, didn't help! I pitted for repairs but I must have had some front end damage. I Lost it coming out of four after the restart, accross the grass into the inside wall, back onto the track and off the outside wall. After that I was way off pace and the lead pack caught me pretty quick, that is when I was pushed into the wall twice. Now both sides of my car are banged up, all the way around really, thanks for setting damage to moderate (:-). I kept going but was all over the track trying to get my line back, figure out who was behind me and how damaged I was. there were about 10 pretty bad laps for me there. Overall, I am still pretty happy with my racing. I kept the same line throughout most of the race, not high and not low but fast. Ask Larry, he was behind me for about 12 laps, with another 5 (?) cars behind him, he kept looking high and low but just could not get beside me, finally did though. Good Job Larry! Though if you had tucked in behind me I think we could have caught the lead pack. -- McWhom ----------------------------------------------------------------- |
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"Jan Verschueren" Quit worrying about what is going to happen and just respond to what does happen. Cut the conscious mind out of the loop. Have the *CONFIDENCE* to trust yourself as a racer. BUt Obi-Wan, how can I see the turns with the Blast-Shield down? dh |
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The lead pack wasnt having any passing troubles that I saw or was aware of and I was actually in the lead pack for most of the race. I dont remember you being around us much. When racing for the lead at Tona you have to expect 3 wide at any time any place. I would say you need to experience some "lead pack" before you can comment  "mcwhom" <mcfadds (AT) NOSPAMcomcast (DOT) net> wrote in message My comment on passing was intended for the lead pack drivers. -- McWhom ----------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Yes, that was for me since my electricity went out for a moment due to a storm passing through. Ended up happeneing again a little later on. Thanks to all of you for the consideration. I was on pole (had pole the night before in the practice race too) and felt strong during the race, but unfortunately for the second race in a row I finished up weak. Just couldn't make up those laps. :-( It was a good race though. Much, much better than our previous SS races. David G Fisher "Race1530" <race1530 (AT) aol (DOT) comnojunk> wrote in message news:20030705195527.20021.00000128 (AT) mb-m18 (DOT) aol.com... Well, I finally have a Saturday off and I end up thinking 4:00 is CENTRAL...not EASTERN like it is plainly printed on the website. I get in just in time to get one lap in qualifying and am at the back of the pack. Not so bad, I think. The plan is to sit in the back, avoid the accidents and hit the pits at every yellow, hoping that a long green run will pay off for me. I run with Frederickson and Ed S for a few laps and then a yellow. A few more laps and yellow again. A third. And then something weird happens. We are coming to the start finish line and my spotter says GREEN GREEN GREEN and i go. Frederickson isnt moving and I have to drop low to avoid him. BLACK FLAG... grooooaaan...but wait. Something isn't right. Green lights are showing and no one is moving. Even as I slow, I'm still passing cars. I still dont know what was going on. Is this a bug I don't know about? I slow down, letting the cars move ahead of me and the green lights are STILL on. I pull the the pits while everyone else starts to race. LAP DOWN. Ah...for petes sake. Of course there is now a long green run and I'm screwed. Ended up getting caught up in someone elses accident, no big deal, and had to retire. Just wish I could have been racing for position for a while longer. I look forward to running a few more as work permits. Thanks guys. Michael |
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Sean, I wanted to let you know why we passed you when we were in that 3/4 car draft... We were trying to get caught up, and we tried to let you stay up front for several laps, but... When you were entering the corners, you were drifting up towards the center and then back down again. That was killing the draft speed. We really had no choice but to go around you. We hadda go!  You can do that if you are at the rear of the draft line, but not at the front. It kills _everyone's_ speed if the lead draft car is doing that. |
of you could have gone faster.
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OH Crap! John, I wish you a speedy recovery - and pray that no 'permanent' damage is done. Take care bud! -- ed_ |
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I couldn't make the race and won't be able to make the next4 or 5 because I cut my arm with a miter saw on Saturday morning. Severed tendons to all but index finger and thumb, and nicked the bone. |
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On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 17:38:46 GMT, frederickson wrote: it said : The poll is entered as a chat message "!poll pole_type player" where player can either be the "#" symbol along with the player's car number, or the player's name. how can you guys chat in-car like this anyways, even under yellow??? I have a hard time believing you're all steering with your chin while you type, as I did yesterday. Good thing nobody entered my room during that time ;-) Cheers, Uwe -- mail replies to Uwe at schuerkamp dot de ( yahoo address is spambox) Uwe Schuerkamp //////////////////////////// http://www.schuerkamp.de/ Herford, Germany \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ (52.0N/8.5E) GPG Fingerprint: 2E 13 20 22 9A 3F 63 7F 67 6F E9 B1 A8 36 A4 61 |
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