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Tony R
 
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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-03-2009 , 03:14 PM






Of course you don't *have* to be a GPl or NR2003 fan to enjoy these...

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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-03-2009 , 03:42 PM






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Skip Barber ... GPL
I don't think fans of GPL would like the Skip Barber. The most
memorable part of learning to drive GPL was using lift throttle
oversteer to control the car from corner entry to apex. One
of the early lessons in GPL was to switch to an 85/45/x
differential to learn how to use lift throttle oversteer.

The Skip Barber punishes you for trying to do the same thing
(I don't know if left foot braking would help with the Skippy).
The Radical on the other hand, seems very happy using lift throttle
oversteer, combined with the other GPL technique of induced
understeer (steering inwards to control oversteer), producing
some nice drifts in the turns, producing a feel similar to
GPL.

iRacing Radical at SilverStone, some drifting about 1/3rd into
the lap:
http://jeffareid.net/ir/irssrad.wmv

GPL (Greg Stewart at Rouen, in car view over chase car view):
http://jeffareid.net/gpl/gplrngs.wmv

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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-03-2009 , 04:10 PM



Plenty of people loved the GPL trainers and they will love the Skippy too.

"jeffareid" <jeffareid (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Skip Barber ... GPL

I don't think fans of GPL would like the Skip Barber. The most
memorable part of learning to drive GPL was using lift throttle
oversteer to control the car from corner entry to apex. One
of the early lessons in GPL was to switch to an 85/45/x
differential to learn how to use lift throttle oversteer.

The Skip Barber punishes you for trying to do the same thing
(I don't know if left foot braking would help with the Skippy).
The Radical on the other hand, seems very happy using lift throttle
oversteer, combined with the other GPL technique of induced
understeer (steering inwards to control oversteer), producing
some nice drifts in the turns, producing a feel similar to
GPL.

iRacing Radical at SilverStone, some drifting about 1/3rd into
the lap:
http://jeffareid.net/ir/irssrad.wmv

GPL (Greg Stewart at Rouen, in car view over chase car view):
http://jeffareid.net/gpl/gplrngs.wmv









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Tony R
 
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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-03-2009 , 05:19 PM



jeffareid wrote:
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Skip Barber ... GPL

I don't think fans of GPL would like the Skip Barber. The most
memorable part of learning to drive GPL was using lift throttle
oversteer to control the car from corner entry to apex. One
of the early lessons in GPL was to switch to an 85/45/x
differential to learn how to use lift throttle oversteer.
The Skip Barber is the closest thing to GPL2 albeit an F3 trainer
variant IMHO. Trailing throttle oversteer (TTO) is a trade mark of the
real car and the iRacing variant is no different.

Cheers
Tony

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Tony R
 
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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-03-2009 , 07:56 PM



Peter wrote:

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Oh well, was quite looking forward to giving it a try, but the system
doesn't like my cc details, despite using this card many times before
online. Plenty of funds on card. Just checked online, but expiry is this
month. Maybe the system didn't like that. :-(
Could be. Might be worth an email to support at iracing.com ?

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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-03-2009 , 08:45 PM



Quote:
I don't think fans of GPL would like the Skip Barber. The most
memorable part of learning to drive GPL was using lift throttle
oversteer to control the car from corner entry to apex. One
of the early lessons in GPL was to switch to an 85/45/x
differential to learn how to use lift throttle oversteer.

The Skip Barber is the closest thing to GPL2 albeit an F3 trainer variant IMHO. Trailing throttle oversteer (TTO) is a
trade mark of the real car and the iRacing variant is no different.
Sorry I was thinking of the Ford Spec Racer, which doesn't have
lift throttle oversteer, just lift throttle spin, although Ian Lakes
setup seems to calm it down a bit.

Why aren't the default setups for these cars made to make them easy
to drive, since they're intended for new players? The advanced players
can then tweak the setups for faster laps, but more difficulty.

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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-04-2009 , 09:25 AM



In article <7JYnm.63424$Lm6.49615 (AT) newsfe21 (DOT) ams2>,
tony.rickardno (AT) spam (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk says...
Quote:
Peter wrote:

Oh well, was quite looking forward to giving it a try, but the system
doesn't like my cc details, despite using this card many times before
online. Plenty of funds on card. Just checked online, but expiry is this
month. Maybe the system didn't like that. :-(

Could be. Might be worth an email to support at iracing.com ?

Well the new card arrived today and it states specifically, keep using
the old card until it has expired, before using the new one. I have a
bank debit card. Generally don't like to use it for these type of
things, but I'll take the chance. ;-)

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Remove All_stRESS before sending me an email

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Peter
 
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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-05-2009 , 07:12 AM



In article <MPG.250b25a544afb36798995f (AT) news (DOT) virginmedia.com>,
pete.ivesAll_stRESS (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk says...
Quote:
In article <7JYnm.63424$Lm6.49615 (AT) newsfe21 (DOT) ams2>,
tony.rickardno (AT) spam (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk says...
Peter wrote:

Oh well, was quite looking forward to giving it a try, but the system
doesn't like my cc details, despite using this card many times before
online. Plenty of funds on card. Just checked online, but expiry is this
month. Maybe the system didn't like that. :-(

Could be. Might be worth an email to support at iracing.com ?

Well the new card arrived today and it states specifically, keep using
the old card until it has expired, before using the new one. I have a
bank debit card. Generally don't like to use it for these type of
things, but I'll take the chance. ;-)


Whoops!! Didn't like that either.

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Tony R
 
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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-05-2009 , 01:46 PM



Peter wrote:
Quote:
Well the new card arrived today and it states specifically, keep using
the old card until it has expired, before using the new one. I have a
bank debit card. Generally don't like to use it for these type of
things, but I'll take the chance. ;-)

Whoops!! Didn't like that either.

Doh! They take Paypal.

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Peter
 
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Default Re: iRacing free one month "demos" for GPL & NR2003 fans - 09-06-2009 , 06:51 AM



In article <Jtxom.62267$bU2.43001 (AT) newsfe29 (DOT) ams2>,
tony.rickardno (AT) spam (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk says...
Quote:
Peter wrote:
Well the new card arrived today and it states specifically, keep using
the old card until it has expired, before using the new one. I have a
bank debit card. Generally don't like to use it for these type of
things, but I'll take the chance. ;-)

Whoops!! Didn't like that either.

Doh! They take Paypal.

Ok, my Paypal has been dormant for many years. Let's hope I can find my
login details and that it still works. <g>

Or, of course, I could set up a new one.

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Pete Ives
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