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JP
 
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Default Re: Read much? - 01-31-2005 , 09:17 PM






Kaemmer's new project. As to caring, I'm not. To early


"Larry" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Who the hell is FIRST Racing, and why do I care?

-Larry

"Dino" <dnoe54 (AT) hotmaildot (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:EmALd.11706$i42.10154 (AT) fe1 (DOT) columbus.rr.com...
Something doesn't smell right. Why wasn't the same fate handed to The
Pits
and PWF for their use of the same "intellectual property" in question?
Maybe the GTP mod hit's too close to (FIRSTRacing's) home, sts.

DN


"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM (AT) rochester (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
news:B1RKd.11443$ZD1.9098 (AT) twister (DOT) nyroc.rr.com...
Redline Developments Statement

Redline Developments would like to formally apologize for our lack of
response following the original release and subsequent removal of
Redline
GTP. Shortly after release, we became aware of installation bugs. We
brought
this to the attention of the community. We also became aware that
Redline
GTP was infringing upon the rights of a number of companies. We have
been
working closely with FIRST-Racing.net - the company who owns the rights
to
the simulation we modified - on a restructured version of Redline GTP
and
are happy to say that we will have this out in the near future. The
solution
to this situation is designed to allow us to deliver our mod to the
sim-racing community.

The restructured version of Redline GTP involves the removal of all
infringed upon unlicensed properties including those of car
manufacturers,
track-owners and various other properties. Even with these changes, the
core
of Redline GTP remains completely intact. Redline Developments will
fully
support the restructured version of Redline GTP; however, we will be
unable
to offer support for the original release and ask you to delete such
version
from your computer.

The history of sim-racing includes a tradition of post-publisher mods
and
development. This will continue and is something both Redline
Developments
and FIRST-Racing.net support , however modding should not cross the
line
into intellectual property infringement. Modders and companies must
work
cooperatively in frameworks which protect the rights of all involved.

We at Redline Developments are amazed at the amount of excitement
Redline

GTP has created. The level of support we received from the sim-racing
community has exceeded our expectations in every regard, and for that
we
are
grateful.

We hope that you continue to enjoy Redline GTP and, again, thank you
for
your continued support!









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Schooner
 
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Default Re: Read much? - 01-31-2005 , 10:12 PM






First Racing is PWF with money :-)
They bought all the Papyrus code.

"Larry" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Who the hell is FIRST Racing, and why do I care?

-Larry

"Dino" <dnoe54 (AT) hotmaildot (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:EmALd.11706$i42.10154 (AT) fe1 (DOT) columbus.rr.com...
Something doesn't smell right. Why wasn't the same fate handed to The
Pits
and PWF for their use of the same "intellectual property" in question?
Maybe the GTP mod hit's too close to (FIRSTRacing's) home, sts.

DN


"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM (AT) rochester (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
news:B1RKd.11443$ZD1.9098 (AT) twister (DOT) nyroc.rr.com...
Redline Developments Statement

Redline Developments would like to formally apologize for our lack of
response following the original release and subsequent removal of
Redline
GTP. Shortly after release, we became aware of installation bugs. We
brought
this to the attention of the community. We also became aware that
Redline
GTP was infringing upon the rights of a number of companies. We have
been
working closely with FIRST-Racing.net - the company who owns the rights
to
the simulation we modified - on a restructured version of Redline GTP
and
are happy to say that we will have this out in the near future. The
solution
to this situation is designed to allow us to deliver our mod to the
sim-racing community.

The restructured version of Redline GTP involves the removal of all
infringed upon unlicensed properties including those of car
manufacturers,
track-owners and various other properties. Even with these changes, the
core
of Redline GTP remains completely intact. Redline Developments will
fully
support the restructured version of Redline GTP; however, we will be
unable
to offer support for the original release and ask you to delete such
version
from your computer.

The history of sim-racing includes a tradition of post-publisher mods
and
development. This will continue and is something both Redline
Developments
and FIRST-Racing.net support , however modding should not cross the line
into intellectual property infringement. Modders and companies must work
cooperatively in frameworks which protect the rights of all involved.

We at Redline Developments are amazed at the amount of excitement
Redline

GTP has created. The level of support we received from the sim-racing
community has exceeded our expectations in every regard, and for that we
are
grateful.

We hope that you continue to enjoy Redline GTP and, again, thank you for
your continued support!









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ymenard
 
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Default Re: Read much? - 01-31-2005 , 11:18 PM



Quote:
"David G Fisher" <davegf (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote
Another reason why rFactor is the right approach. Right ymenard?

Dunno I still see this as a separate thing. There the compagnies doing
their usual legal work here, versus the guy who wants to race real tracks
out-of-the-box, 'cause he doesn't want to wait 6 months for third-party
users to release them, often in average quality.

If we go back to the first part, and I've said it quite often here on
r.a.s., we're always marching on eggs. EVERY car that's painted for a F1
sim, Nascar sim, Rally, etc... every track, every billboard, every
everything, is somehow illegal as it containts intellectual property
infringements.


I still think we should ignore it, and just release those things via
bittorent and let the users win tehehe.




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ymenard
 
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Default Re: Read much? - 01-31-2005 , 11:19 PM



Quote:
"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM (AT) rochester (DOT) rr.com> wrote

<snip>


So, anybody wants to Bittorent the GTP mod, or knows where to find it
online? I didn't install it only because I was told it was possibily
dangerous for it's uninstallation grrr (I fell into that trap).





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-- François Ménard <ymenard>
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...




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Goy Larsen
 
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Default Re: Read much? - 02-01-2005 , 05:57 PM



Schooner wrote:
Quote:
Perhaps that's the real reason the Pits got pissy and closed up too.

I can confirm that this is not the case, and even if it was we would
have farted in their general direction, told them they were sons of
silly persons, that their mothers were hamsters and that their fathers
smelled of Elderberries, finally we would have told them to go away
before we taunted them a second time....all in an extremely bad French
accent of course


Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--


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Larry
 
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Default Re: Read much? - 02-04-2005 , 01:22 PM



Got it.

-Larry

"JP" <jp (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Kaemmer's new project. As to caring, I'm not. To early


"Larry" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:HtBLd.53844$jn.7292 (AT) lakeread06 (DOT) ..
Who the hell is FIRST Racing, and why do I care?

-Larry

"Dino" <dnoe54 (AT) hotmaildot (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:EmALd.11706$i42.10154 (AT) fe1 (DOT) columbus.rr.com...
Something doesn't smell right. Why wasn't the same fate handed to The
Pits
and PWF for their use of the same "intellectual property" in question?
Maybe the GTP mod hit's too close to (FIRSTRacing's) home, sts.

DN


"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM (AT) rochester (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
news:B1RKd.11443$ZD1.9098 (AT) twister (DOT) nyroc.rr.com...
Redline Developments Statement

Redline Developments would like to formally apologize for our lack of
response following the original release and subsequent removal of
Redline
GTP. Shortly after release, we became aware of installation bugs. We
brought
this to the attention of the community. We also became aware that
Redline
GTP was infringing upon the rights of a number of companies. We have
been
working closely with FIRST-Racing.net - the company who owns the
rights
to
the simulation we modified - on a restructured version of Redline GTP
and
are happy to say that we will have this out in the near future. The
solution
to this situation is designed to allow us to deliver our mod to the
sim-racing community.

The restructured version of Redline GTP involves the removal of all
infringed upon unlicensed properties including those of car
manufacturers,
track-owners and various other properties. Even with these changes,
the
core
of Redline GTP remains completely intact. Redline Developments will
fully
support the restructured version of Redline GTP; however, we will be
unable
to offer support for the original release and ask you to delete such
version
from your computer.

The history of sim-racing includes a tradition of post-publisher mods
and
development. This will continue and is something both Redline
Developments
and FIRST-Racing.net support , however modding should not cross the
line
into intellectual property infringement. Modders and companies must
work
cooperatively in frameworks which protect the rights of all involved.

We at Redline Developments are amazed at the amount of excitement
Redline

GTP has created. The level of support we received from the sim-racing
community has exceeded our expectations in every regard, and for that
we
are
grateful.

We hope that you continue to enjoy Redline GTP and, again, thank you
for
your continued support!











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Larry
 
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Default Re: Read much? - 02-04-2005 , 01:22 PM



Aha!

-Larry

"Schooner" <schooner (AT) accesswave (DOT) ca> wrote

Quote:
First Racing is PWF with money :-)
They bought all the Papyrus code.

"Larry" <none (AT) none (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:HtBLd.53844$jn.7292 (AT) lakeread06 (DOT) ..
Who the hell is FIRST Racing, and why do I care?

-Larry

"Dino" <dnoe54 (AT) hotmaildot (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:EmALd.11706$i42.10154 (AT) fe1 (DOT) columbus.rr.com...
Something doesn't smell right. Why wasn't the same fate handed to The
Pits
and PWF for their use of the same "intellectual property" in question?
Maybe the GTP mod hit's too close to (FIRSTRacing's) home, sts.

DN


"Steve Smith" <blowbackNOSPAM (AT) rochester (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
news:B1RKd.11443$ZD1.9098 (AT) twister (DOT) nyroc.rr.com...
Redline Developments Statement

Redline Developments would like to formally apologize for our lack of
response following the original release and subsequent removal of
Redline
GTP. Shortly after release, we became aware of installation bugs. We
brought
this to the attention of the community. We also became aware that
Redline
GTP was infringing upon the rights of a number of companies. We have
been
working closely with FIRST-Racing.net - the company who owns the rights
to
the simulation we modified - on a restructured version of Redline GTP
and
are happy to say that we will have this out in the near future. The
solution
to this situation is designed to allow us to deliver our mod to the
sim-racing community.

The restructured version of Redline GTP involves the removal of all
infringed upon unlicensed properties including those of car
manufacturers,
track-owners and various other properties. Even with these changes, the
core
of Redline GTP remains completely intact. Redline Developments will
fully
support the restructured version of Redline GTP; however, we will be
unable
to offer support for the original release and ask you to delete such
version
from your computer.

The history of sim-racing includes a tradition of post-publisher mods
and
development. This will continue and is something both Redline
Developments
and FIRST-Racing.net support , however modding should not cross the
line
into intellectual property infringement. Modders and companies must
work
cooperatively in frameworks which protect the rights of all involved.

We at Redline Developments are amazed at the amount of excitement
Redline

GTP has created. The level of support we received from the sim-racing
community has exceeded our expectations in every regard, and for that
we
are
grateful.

We hope that you continue to enjoy Redline GTP and, again, thank you
for
your continued support!











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