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Red Momo --> cheap G25 = unexpected laptime improvement
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Red Momo --> cheap G25 = unexpected laptime improvement -
07-09-2009
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I cracked this week and bought a G25 for 99 of our UK pounds (coming to a devalued currency shop near you any day now!) I'd been waiting for the 27 to be reviewed, but this price was far too good to miss. It's 50ukp less than I paid for the Momo about, er... seven years ago? Something like that anyway. The G25 landed on my desk yesterday and although I'm having some difficult adjusting, I'm also getting some faster laptimes in my 'benchmark' combination of iRacing Solstice <fx:spit!> at Lime Rock. I was horribly slow there before, and had no fun at all driving the Solstice. But with the G25 something really strange happened. My previous best laptime was something like 1:05.5, but in races and normal practice I was lucky to see 1:06 consistently, and it was never any fun to drive that slowly compared to the average iRacer. The G25, however, changed the experience completely. More so than I'd ever expected. All of a sudden I can catch oversteer more regularly, and... well, I was just enjoying the whole experience of pushing harder! It was really rather startling, especially in a car I've grown to loathe. In my last practise session I drove five laps in a row under 1:05, with a cluster of laps at 1.046. Not alien territory, but certainly competitive if I can keep that up. In a recent Opinion Nation http://radio.psrtv.com/ they had a discussion about pointlessly chasing 'perfect' hardware. I generally agreed with their line that it's usually a waste of money. Unless you have a serious problem the most important factor is always the driver. But while that may still be true, it appears that my Red Momo's pedals and wheel -- while working perfectly as far as I could tell -- were further from ideal than I realised. The stiffer pedals certainly make a difference to my braking (sometimes in a bad way at the moment!) but it's the steering which is definitely helping most. By calibrating to use most of the wheel's range I can catch and control situations which were completely beyond my abilities before with the Red Momo. It's come as a bit of a shock that I might soon be able to drag myself up the bell curve of ability from slower than continental drift towards competitively sluggish. Whether that will actually happen after this burst of enthusiasm remains to be seen. But for the time being it's fun trying and has almost certainly persuaded me to take another chunk of subscription out at iRacing. The driving experience with a G25 is just so satisfying. I may even <fx:music from Psycho> join some Solstice races. Andrew McP |
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I cracked this week and bought a G25 for 99 of our UK pounds (coming to a devalued currency shop near you any day now!) I'd been waiting for the 27 to be reviewed, but this price was far too good to miss. It's 50ukp less than I paid for the Momo about, er... seven years ago? Something like that anyway. The G25 landed on my desk yesterday and although I'm having some difficult adjusting, I'm also getting some faster laptimes in my 'benchmark' combination of iRacing Solstice <fx:spit!> at Lime Rock. I was horribly slow there before, and had no fun at all driving the Solstice. But with the G25 something really strange happened. My previous best laptime was something like 1:05.5, but in races and normal practice I was lucky to see 1:06 consistently, and it was never any fun to drive that slowly compared to the average iRacer. The G25, however, changed the experience completely. More so than I'd ever expected. All of a sudden I can catch oversteer more regularly, and... well, I was just enjoying the whole experience of pushing harder! It was really rather startling, especially in a car I've grown to loathe. In my last practise session I drove five laps in a row under 1:05, with a cluster of laps at 1.046. Not alien territory, but certainly competitive if I can keep that up. In a recent Opinion Nation http://radio.psrtv.com/ they had a discussion about pointlessly chasing 'perfect' hardware. I generally agreed with their line that it's usually a waste of money. Unless you have a serious problem the most important factor is always the driver. But while that may still be true, it appears that my Red Momo's pedals and wheel -- while working perfectly as far as I could tell -- were further from ideal than I realised. The stiffer pedals certainly make a difference to my braking (sometimes in a bad way at the moment!) but it's the steering which is definitely helping most. By calibrating to use most of the wheel's range I can catch and control situations which were completely beyond my abilities before with the Red Momo. It's come as a bit of a shock that I might soon be able to drag myself up the bell curve of ability from slower than continental drift towards competitively sluggish. Whether that will actually happen after this burst of enthusiasm remains to be seen. But for the time being it's fun trying and has almost certainly persuaded me to take another chunk of subscription out at iRacing. The driving experience with a G25 is just so satisfying. I may even <fx:music from Psycho> join some Solstice races. Andrew McP |
thing. G25 is a big improvement of the red momo.
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I recommend the Nixim brake mod. It makes a huge difference http://www.nixim.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=3 "Andrew MacPherson" <mcp.andrew (AT) DELETTHISgmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:memo.20090709224304.2700A (AT) mcp (DOT) andrew.c... I cracked this week and bought a G25 for 99 of our UK pounds (coming to a devalued currency shop near you any day now!) I'd been waiting for the 27 to be reviewed, but this price was far too good to miss. It's 50ukp less than I paid for the Momo about, er... seven years ago? Something like that anyway. The G25 landed on my desk yesterday and although I'm having some difficult adjusting, I'm also getting some faster laptimes in my 'benchmark' combination of iRacing Solstice <fx:spit!> at Lime Rock. I was horribly slow there before, and had no fun at all driving the Solstice. But with the G25 something really strange happened. My previous best laptime was something like 1:05.5, but in races and normal practice I was lucky to see 1:06 consistently, and it was never any fun to drive that slowly compared to the average iRacer. The G25, however, changed the experience completely. More so than I'd ever expected. All of a sudden I can catch oversteer more regularly, and... well, I was just enjoying the whole experience of pushing harder! It was really rather startling, especially in a car I've grown to loathe. In my last practise session I drove five laps in a row under 1:05, with a cluster of laps at 1.046. Not alien territory, but certainly competitive if I can keep that up. In a recent Opinion Nation http://radio.psrtv.com/ they had a discussion about pointlessly chasing 'perfect' hardware. I generally agreed with their line that it's usually a waste of money. Unless you have a serious problem the most important factor is always the driver. But while that may still be true, it appears that my Red Momo's pedals and wheel -- while working perfectly as far as I could tell -- were further from ideal than I realised. The stiffer pedals certainly make a difference to my braking (sometimes in a bad way at the moment!) but it's the steering which is definitely helping most. By calibrating to use most of the wheel's range I can catch and control situations which were completely beyond my abilities before with the Red Momo. It's come as a bit of a shock that I might soon be able to drag myself up the bell curve of ability from slower than continental drift towards competitively sluggish. Whether that will actually happen after this burst of enthusiasm remains to be seen. But for the time being it's fun trying and has almost certainly persuaded me to take another chunk of subscription out at iRacing. The driving experience with a G25 is just so satisfying. I may even <fx:music from Psycho> join some Solstice races. Andrew McP |
difference:
http://www.leobodnar.com/products/DFPG25conn/
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"David Fisher's Left Testicle" <dfg.myass@aol> wrote in message news:KRt5m.26483$ME1.18406 (AT) newsfe05 (DOT) ams2... I recommend the Nixim brake mod. It makes a huge difference http://www.nixim.com/cart/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=3 "Andrew MacPherson" <mcp.andrew (AT) DELETTHISgmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:memo.20090709224304.2700A (AT) mcp (DOT) andrew.c... I cracked this week and bought a G25 for 99 of our UK pounds (coming to a devalued currency shop near you any day now!) I'd been waiting for the 27 to be reviewed, but this price was far too good to miss. It's 50ukp less than I paid for the Momo about, er... seven years ago? Something like that anyway. The G25 landed on my desk yesterday and although I'm having some difficult adjusting, I'm also getting some faster laptimes in my 'benchmark' combination of iRacing Solstice <fx:spit!> at Lime Rock. I was horribly slow there before, and had no fun at all driving the Solstice. But with the G25 something really strange happened. My previous best laptime was something like 1:05.5, but in races and normal practice I was lucky to see 1:06 consistently, and it was never any fun to drive that slowly compared to the average iRacer. The G25, however, changed the experience completely. More so than I'd ever expected. All of a sudden I can catch oversteer more regularly, and... well, I was just enjoying the whole experience of pushing harder! It was really rather startling, especially in a car I've grown to loathe. In my last practise session I drove five laps in a row under 1:05, with a cluster of laps at 1.046. Not alien territory, but certainly competitive if I can keep that up. In a recent Opinion Nation http://radio.psrtv.com/ they had a discussion about pointlessly chasing 'perfect' hardware. I generally agreed with their line that it's usually a waste of money. Unless you have a serious problem the most important factor is always the driver. But while that may still be true, it appears that my Red Momo's pedals and wheel -- while working perfectly as far as I could tell -- were further from ideal than I realised. The stiffer pedals certainly make a difference to my braking (sometimes in a bad way at the moment!) but it's the steering which is definitely helping most. By calibrating to use most of the wheel's range I can catch and control situations which were completely beyond my abilities before with the Red Momo. It's come as a bit of a shock that I might soon be able to drag myself up the bell curve of ability from slower than continental drift towards competitively sluggish. Whether that will actually happen after this burst of enthusiasm remains to be seen. But for the time being it's fun trying and has almost certainly persuaded me to take another chunk of subscription out at iRacing. The driving experience with a G25 is just so satisfying. I may even <fx:music from Psycho> join some Solstice races. Andrew McP The Leobodnar USB adapter for the pedals is also suppose to make a huge difference: http://www.leobodnar.com/products/DFPG25conn/ |
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G25 is a big improvement of the red momo. |
to re-learn to make good use of the G25's extra potential! But it's surprising what
a big difference it's made to the sense of being in control of a real vehicle.
I really wasn't prepared for this, and it's nice to be pleasantly surprised after
spending money. Usually buyer's remorse kicks in pretty quickly. :-)
Andrew McP
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schooner (AT) accesswave (DOT) ca (schooner) wrote: G25 is a big improvement of the red momo. Overall it hasn't worked miracles for my driving in all vehicles... I have so much to re-learn to make good use of the G25's extra potential! But it's surprising what a big difference it's made to the sense of being in control of a real vehicle. I really wasn't prepared for this, and it's nice to be pleasantly surprised after spending money. Usually buyer's remorse kicks in pretty quickly. :-) Andrew McP |
any consistency, then I took a week off and came back and it was so much
more natural. Just had to forget how I was using the red momo I think to
adjust to the new wheel. I'm still not as consistent yet, but generally
slightly faster and can save a car more easily.
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But while that may still be true, it appears that my Red Momo's pedals and wheel -- while working perfectly as far as I could tell -- were further from ideal than I realised. The stiffer pedals certainly make a difference to my braking (sometimes in a bad way at the moment!) but it's the steering which is definitely helping most. |
you are ready (it would be a bit of a shock to go straight to it). This
gets much closer to feeling like a real brake pedal.
http://www.nixim.com/pedmod.html
Cheers
Tony
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Stiffening up the brakes even more with a Nixim mod adds a lot too |
:-) I'm far from comfortable with braking at the moment, and have had to go through
my shoe collection to find something which gives me more leverage. Before I could
get away with my patented Old Man's Slippers™. I'm also having to wedge my chair to
stop Newton's third law propelling me across the room.
Still, even with the beginner's problems, it's a great setup. I look forward to
mastering the G25... or ending up in plaster with a stress fracture. :->
Andrew McP
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