Richard Burns Rally on Vista?

#11

"Maat" <maat (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote

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"Rob P" <robertapollard (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in
news:k3rtk.168368$ah4.30497 (AT) newsfe15 (DOT) ams2:

I used to have Vista - twice. It kept suckering me in by its looks.
However, every time I went back to XP, pretty much all my games frame
rates went through the roof. These weren't minor changes either, these
were changes that was instantly noticeable

My brother also had the same thing happen to him, so he has now
ditched Vista too.

The scary bit is that all the so called 'review sites' claim that
games run at a similar speed on Vista, but given what me and my
brother have seen I can't see how that could be true.

Maybe it's because we were using the 32bit version? - Who knows.

RobP

Were you using older Nvidia video cards? I think Nvidia Vista drivers
with older Nvidia card may have been the issue and not Vista. Recently
tested out Nvidia 7950GX2 and it performed great in XP but was dismal on
Vista64 on the same PC. Swapped card for 8800GT and the performance on
both OS was comparable. That wasn't my PC though so should probably set
up dual boot on my PC that has Vista64 and ATI 4870 and see if there is a
difference or not. That requires a lot of work though but I guess I
should do it to find out for sure.

I got a relativelly newish nVidia 8800GTX with 768Mb ram. The first time I
tried Vista was on release, so I wasn't expecting much. The second time was
a few months back and I still got a big performance hike.

I'm a stickler for keeping everything up to date, so I'm sure it's no longer
a driver issue.

For the moment I have put my Vista disk out of my reach to prevent any
lapses!

RobP

#12

In message <c9Dtk.231102$gc5.152582@pd7urf2no>, Maat
<maat (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> writes

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andrew.mcp (AT) DELETETHISdsl (DOT) pipex.com (Andrew MacPherson) wrote in
news:memo.20080828064411.956A (AT) address_disguised (DOT) address_disguised:

Interesting. I hope to avoid Vista altogether, but if I don't that's a
useful bit of info to store away. I'd always assumed that each dx release
was backwards compatible for at least a couple of iterations.

Andrew McP

They are backwards compatible, except for DX10. It's mostly backwards
compatible but not completely. Once you run dxwebsetup.exe it is though.

Can't get dxwebsetup to work at all, just keep getting an "internal
system error"

Managed to download and run a direct x setup, but that still hasn't
helped, maybe it's an issue with the 4850 or the drivers?

Back to the drawing board.
--
Sean Black

#13

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:46:31 +0100, Sean Black wrote:

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Just got a new PC with Vista, just trying out a few of my old sims to
see how they go.

Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
managed to get it working on Vista?

It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
shuts down.
It works for me in Vista (NVidia card though). I don't think I had to do

anything unusual to get it run. I thought RBR runs on anything - it even
runs on Kubuntu

#14

In article <zKLtk.51280$hx.10969@pd7urf3no>, alexti
<fdsklgjdfkl (AT) dfhgklsdfhg (DOT) dflghk> writes

Quote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:46:31 +0100, Sean Black wrote:

Just got a new PC with Vista, just trying out a few of my old sims to
see how they go.

Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
managed to get it working on Vista?

It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
shuts down.
It works for me in Vista (NVidia card though). I don't think I had to do
anything unusual to get it run. I thought RBR runs on anything - it even
runs on Kubuntu

That's probably about right, always been an NVidia guy up until now, but
I was recommended to go with the 4850 as it was the best bang for the
buck at the minute and now I've found I've probably got the only card
anywhere that RBR won't run on, LOL!!

I tried the GTR2 demo and that work fine, so I'll probably get hold of
that (had the 1st one, never got around to picking up the second).
Anything else good out there? (Been out of the loop for a while due to
not having a decent enough machine to run much new stuff)

--
Sean Black

#15

"Sean Black" <sean (AT) bucks-aggs (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote

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In article <zKLtk.51280$hx.10969@pd7urf3no>, alexti
fdsklgjdfkl (AT) dfhgklsdfhg (DOT) dflghk> writes
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:46:31 +0100, Sean Black wrote:

Just got a new PC with Vista, just trying out a few of my old sims to
see how they go.

Only one I've had any trouble with so far is Richard Burns Rally. Anyone
managed to get it working on Vista?

It installs, detects my video card (ATI 4850) but when I try to run it
is says something along the lines of "No Direct3D card detected" and
shuts down.
It works for me in Vista (NVidia card though). I don't think I had to do
anything unusual to get it run. I thought RBR runs on anything - it even
runs on Kubuntu

That's probably about right, always been an NVidia guy up until now, but I
was recommended to go with the 4850 as it was the best bang for the buck
at the minute and now I've found I've probably got the only card anywhere
that RBR won't run on, LOL!!

I tried the GTR2 demo and that work fine, so I'll probably get hold of
that (had the 1st one, never got around to picking up the second).
Anything else good out there? (Been out of the loop for a while due to not
having a decent enough machine to run much new stuff)

--
Sean Black

Make sure to try the Power and Glory mod to GTR2. Some great old cars there.

Ed

#16

Sean Black <Gooner (AT) pipex (DOT) dsl.net> wrote in
news:NedI2SBzjztIFwix (AT) dsl (DOT) pipex.net:

Quote:

Can't get dxwebsetup to work at all, just keep getting an "internal
system error"

Managed to download and run a direct x setup, but that still hasn't
helped, maybe it's an issue with the 4850 or the drivers?

Back to the drawing board.

I ran it fine on Vista64 with 4870 card. Something is wrong with your PC.

#17

In article <QT0uk.234142$gc5.227621@pd7urf2no>, Maat
<maat (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> writes

Quote:

Sean Black <Gooner (AT) pipex (DOT) dsl.net> wrote in
news:NedI2SBzjztIFwix (AT) dsl (DOT) pipex.net:

Can't get dxwebsetup to work at all, just keep getting an "internal
system error"

Managed to download and run a direct x setup, but that still hasn't
helped, maybe it's an issue with the 4850 or the drivers?

Back to the drawing board.

I ran it fine on Vista64 with 4870 card. Something is wrong with your PC.

Sorted now :-)

I ran DX9 off another game disc and also ran RBR straight after install,
whereas before I'd been installing it then applying the patch and then
trying to run it. So not sure which one fixed it or if it was a
combination of the two, but it's working.

It remains to be seen if it was worth the effort, but in the long run
the DX9 thing may prevent other problems in the future.
--
Sean Black

#18

Sean Black <sean (AT) bucks-aggs (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in news:hDs4kTAWM6uIFwP3
@virgin.net:

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It remains to be seen if it was worth the effort, but in the long run
the DX9 thing may prevent other problems in the future.

Yes, but Directx gets updates fairly frequently so if you want to avoid
issues with newer games you want to investigate why dxwebsetup.exe won't
run for you. Last update to Directx was August, 2008.

#19

Sean Black <sean (AT) bucks-aggs (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:FDhx0kAul6tIFwz3 (AT) virgin (DOT) net:

Quote:

I tried the GTR2 demo and that work fine, so I'll probably get hold of
that (had the 1st one, never got around to picking up the second).
Anything else good out there? (Been out of the loop for a while due to
not having a decent enough machine to run much new stuff)

Get Race07 with GTR Evolution addon and get rFactor.

#20

In article <Xns9B0D8E0B9DB09666 (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1>, Scallywag <plonk (AT) this (DOT) bitch>
writes

Quote:

Sean Black <sean (AT) bucks-aggs (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:FDhx0kAul6tIFwz3 (AT) virgin (DOT) net:

I tried the GTR2 demo and that work fine, so I'll probably get hold of
that (had the 1st one, never got around to picking up the second).
Anything else good out there? (Been out of the loop for a while due to
not having a decent enough machine to run much new stuff)

Get Race07 with GTR Evolution addon and get rFactor.

Got Race07/GTR Evolution on order will look into rFactor.
--
Sean Black