I installed Vista on both my computer and my wife's computer on
Tuesday. There were the usual problems with minor glitches, but
overall, I'm very satisfied with it. My wife uses her computer just
for work and Vista meshes better with Office 2007 than XP did. I use
mine for both work and play and I notice that it's faster with
productivity programs and I notice no loss of performance at all with
rFactor, which is the only game I play. It read and calibrated my TSW
perfectly on the first try and no hiccups at all thusfar.

Yep, much the same comments as 98 > XP, I'm going Vista tomorrow and I'd put
a big lump of money on it that most people on here will be there within 3 -
4 months as hardware and driver support develops and of course grinds to a
halt for XP...that's the world we live in. I'll be happy to report back on
performance with GPL (if it works - but if it doesn't I won't take long
before a fix is developed)

Vista update#3...

GPL was the only game that I have installed since switch/upgrading XP on
this old machine, to VISTA... As I am sure, I checked in the sidewinder
profiler to make sure it all worked in Vista - RC1, I had not actually
looked yet. I I just raced nascar and GTlegends and everythings was like I
thought it should be... in otherwords, I just tried the games and
everything was still working. I had high hopes... I was ready and happy.
well that computer I posted about that would NOT run nascar racing even when
I had just XP on here, with vista on here it does work, and like I tell you
SIDEWINDER USERS below... I thought I had lucked out having it work in
Vista as long as it was installed before uupgrading to Vista, least it had
with RC1, or maybe ???

Well I installed GPL 2004 demo, for me and Milo's sake (before I quit this
TEST and returned my kids PC back to him) and GPL of course... had no idea
about my wheel, so I had a minute and since couldn't calibrate in game like
I thought I should have. I exited GPLdemo, and opened the Sidewinder
software, SO FYI, well it aint like it used to be, all I can do in there is
calibrate, and I dont see ANYTHING of the Sidwinder app you used to see to
calibrate, test and save profiles, nor the FF & combo or seperate pedals
like those of us are used to that have Sidewinder USB wheels. all i really
have is generic joystic settings, Luckily since I had already seperated the
pedals back in XP and set the FF settings to my liking, they are seperated
and worked after having Vista calibrate like you would a generic joystic,
with 3 axes. I hope to do more investigating, and I am going to post this
to RAS, so but with XP machine (plowboy I think I have).

So, no I dont know where I stand now. might see later if DXtweak lets me do
anything, like combine and or seperate pedals and stuff, otherwise I am done
with Vista for now I guess. I cannot afford 200 for the fuggin OS and 300
(ok 250 plus ship for the g2) gosh dangit! I hate this. I guess putting
in a swap drive cradle, and swapping xp & vista is my only choices now.

later all.

Milo Johnson wrote:

Alan -
"95-98-XP is a whole lot different than jumping from XP to Vista".
Right... like I said, been here before. I don't plan on upgrading
right away, but I WILL upgrade (and the 64 bit OS IS an upgrade) at
some point, as will most here by the end of next year.

GP

MC:
Since a lot of people with less experience is reading this, lets
give them some sensible advice.
And this would be something like this: Whether it works good or bad
with this or that game (simulation), wait for some six months till bugs are
fixed, and drivers updated.
To this I could add: ...then you buy a new machine (with Vista on
it), so that your new beutiful game (which will be issued just at that
moment, traditionaly by Kaemmer) works with 36fps with all the flashy
stuff on. -- Mario

Plowboy has brought this to us :
Ummm. So does the game work or not? I can see your wheel doesn't seem
to work like you want but the main question was does the game actually
run fine.

Ooops my bad, I omitted that (taking myself off topic I guess)

yeah the GPL2004 demo ran fine!

Vintook wrote:

Plowboy,
Thank you very much for the info.
Of (how many post that were about everything but the question I asked) you
answered my question.

Thank you very much
MILO
Sorry for the top post but thought it was the place for it


"Plowboy" <A@B.Com> wrote

Mario,

I plan to start a thread like you said...

For most of us, waiting 3 months minimum will be a very smart thing. With
Aero and Glass (the nifty eyecandy part of vista desktop and stuff) the
performance will not be as snappy as XP, with most machines on equal. Plus
I am finding some obscure device troubles with Vista, and by device troubles
I mean if the device (like camera) had its own way of doing things, and you
liked it that way, Vista doesn't. AFAIK we were not going to be able to
install GTlegends on Vista, you had to have already installed it I believe
for it to work (which I had)... This i will check before I quit messing
with Vista this week. As you read above, I wont do vista now, because I'll
have to buy a wheel, and I would only settle for a g2, even though I would
rather get an ecci, lol.

I will know more later this week as I try a clean install of vista on my
boy's machine hopefully tuesday or so, I have league races tonight (nascar)
and thurs (ORR). I got screwed out of my weekend of plans to muk with
vista, other things went on...

I only have 4 games that I mess with:
rFactor (mainly for the ORR trucks)
Nascar 2003
GTlegends <unsure since I did upgrade of system that had this already on
it>
However I have read in several places that Vista will NOT allow starforce to
be installed, maybe this was an older iteration that the reviewers were
talking about, than starforce on GTL?>
GPL I had, was pretty updated when I kinda quit playing it..
I would love to have GTR2 but I dont, Im holding out for GTL2 :-)
Oh I guess I still have my paid for ability to install LFS, but havent
installed it since day 1, of the first release when we had to pay, so I dont
even know if it would be worth installing without forking out more money?

A big issue rearing its head I been reading is Budget based computers with
budget memory that runs fine in XP, wont run without BSD's on Vista. So
some will have 2gigs of memory that will not work in Vista, you can find out
before hand with this util... http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp this
is a dos like util to check your memory and you need a floppy or bootable CD
or Flash memory stick works good too it will not run in windows..

PS you can fresh install Vista, you just instal it 2 times, once without a
key, and then again giving it your CD key... BUT FYI, now my XP to Vista
upgrade took 2-3 hours (under 1 gig of memory might account for that?) so
this should and would double it as far as I know and read.


Mario Petrinovich enlightened us with:

Plowboy:
Thanks for all the interesting info. Vista is hot stuff, and people
are interested. -- Mario