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Milo Johnson
 
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Default vista and gpl - 01-31-2007 , 09:31 AM






I know vista just came out but was wondering if anyone has got it and tried
to run GPL under the new operating system.
If so sure would like to know if it works
Thanks for any info
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Jan Verschueren
 
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 01-31-2007 , 07:42 PM






"Milo Johnson" wrote...
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I know vista just came out but was wondering if anyone
has got it and tried to run GPL under the new operating
system. If so sure would like to know if it works
Thanks for any info
Name one reason why anyone who's serious about racing sims in general would
want to upgrade?

Jan.
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 02-01-2007 , 06:45 AM



That's almost funny... look back a MS OS or two, then add in Flight
sims and shooters..

GP

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On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:42:11 GMT, "Jan Verschueren" <jan.verschuerenNO (AT) SPAMtelenet (DOT) be> wrote:
Name one reason why anyone who's serious about racing sims in general would
want to upgrade?

Jan.
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MC
 
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 02-01-2007 , 04:55 PM





Quote:
Name one reason why anyone who's serious about racing sims in general
would want to upgrade?

Jan.
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I remember the same daft comments when XP first came out (in this very NG as
it happens), it didn't take long...
Regards
Martin




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Alan Bernardo
 
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 02-02-2007 , 07:48 AM




"GaryP" <gary (AT) forgetaboutit (DOT) com> wrote

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That's almost funny... look back a MS OS or two, then add in Flight
sims and shooters..

GP

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:42:11 GMT, "Jan Verschueren"
jan.verschuerenNO (AT) SPAMtelenet (DOT) be> wrote:
Name one reason why anyone who's serious about racing sims in general
would
want to upgrade?

Jan.
=---

Currently, right now, I see no reason to go to Vista. That may change as
new games are released. Your comment about "looking back" makes little
sense. The jump from Windows 95 or 98 to XP is a whole lot different than
jumping from XP to Vista. Even besides this, I don't understand your point.
If the current games-- GPL, for instance-- work on XP, what's the advantage
of going to Vista, besides the rather exorbitant $200 price tag for the
complete version?

To go to Vista just to go to Vista and be cool is no reason. Unless there
is a decent increase in performance when running Vista and a game (or racing
sim)-- if that's all you do is play games or other small stuff-- then is
there a reason to make the switch?

Alanb




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Alan Bernardo
 
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 02-02-2007 , 07:52 AM




"MC" <mcasey (AT) NOTREQUIREDbtinternet (DOT) com> wrote

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Name one reason why anyone who's serious about racing sims in general
would want to upgrade?

Jan.
=---

I remember the same daft comments when XP first came out (in this very NG
as it happens), it didn't take long...
Regards
Martin

What you fail to consider is that there has to be an advantage to switching,
justifying the cost, generally speaking. The jump from Windows 98 (skipping
that awful thing in between) to XP was enormous; the jump from XP to Vista
appears to be much smaller. So actually the comment is not "daft", as you
call it. Your failure to see the difference of the jump between Windows 98
to XP and that between XP and Vista is what I might consider a "daft"
assessment.

Alanb




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Plowboy
 
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 02-02-2007 , 09:00 AM



Read this in fun...

As usuall, you probably dont see anyting you have already reached a
conclusion of, it is not for you. But, unlike you, I feel that I can game,
just because I can justify the PC I have, for doing what I do otherwise, or
else I would probably still have my p31000 machine.

So just like when XP came out, I needed to be an early adopter, but I was
not (money is and was tight budgets) which was only partially untrue, I
finally made myself believe, because XP was almost customisable to look and
feel like 98, which would been good enough for me to be able to support the
run of the mill questions I get from users I support both in the office and
around town.

But Vista, if it is ANYTHING like the RC1, it is half way going to be a
support night mare, with windows popping up every single time you rn
programs, any times that you run a program, and if that program accesses the
internet or what have you the PC locks itself down, with a warning dialog
box wanting you to answer a question... right now I have men and women whom
apparently cannot make a decision about a popup saying "microsof has some
updates, would you like to see and or install them?" they call me up and I
have to deduce if they need to say yes or no... I, think I will get a 900
number, that gets credit card before it allows the call through, this is
going to be a nightmare.

ANYWAY, So like Milo Has, does anyone that has it, tried it? ANYONE?

I have a machine I did try to run RC1, but the POS machine would NOT run
Nascar Racing 2003, but it would run GTL rFactor etc. so I never tried GPL.
I believe it has/had to do with the chipset on the motherboard, that I had
been given this motherboard for 5 bucks (for a newer-ish motherboard) it was
not unlikely that it was a POS. but I was able to prove that my working
copy of XP, upgraded to rc1 would retain my Sidewinder wheel install.

Soon, this I will get to try a keyless install of a retail CD (which should
allow me 30 days to evaluate it) to see if the wheel stays installed and
working or not.

As I said tonight I will find out more, as


Alan Bernardo enlightened us with:
Quote:
"GaryP" <gary (AT) forgetaboutit (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:b4o3s2pph1e62e6qh8suda6c4tn0t0pg5l (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
That's almost funny... look back a MS OS or two, then add in Flight
sims and shooters..

GP

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:42:11 GMT, "Jan Verschueren"
jan.verschuerenNO (AT) SPAMtelenet (DOT) be> wrote:
Name one reason why anyone who's serious about racing sims in
general would
want to upgrade?

Jan.
=---


Currently, right now, I see no reason to go to Vista. That may
change as new games are released. Your comment about "looking back"
makes little sense. The jump from Windows 95 or 98 to XP is a whole
lot different than jumping from XP to Vista. Even besides this, I
don't understand your point. If the current games-- GPL, for
instance-- work on XP, what's the advantage of going to Vista,
besides the rather exorbitant $200 price tag for the complete version?

To go to Vista just to go to Vista and be cool is no reason. Unless
there is a decent increase in performance when running Vista and a
game (or racing sim)-- if that's all you do is play games or other
small stuff-- then is there a reason to make the switch?

Alanb



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Plowboy
 
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 02-02-2007 , 09:26 AM



Alan, I know this has been said before, but there are some tell - tale
signs, if you ask me, that this version of Windows could be even pickier
than the crap we all went through upgrading from 98 to XP. Porbably good
that were all gamers here and probably bought less "cheapo" parts than your
neighbor... But being in IT, and support it looks worse, if you ask me,
than the XP ordeal...

Here is the 1st of the things I have come across:
Problems with seemingly OK XP machines and memory issues with Vista. Ill
hopefully find link(s) to the articles and the memory problems with cheapo
(dell bestbuy etc memory)
http://searchwincomputing.techtarget...241306,00.html
http://blogs.zdnet.com:80/Ou/?p=399

I fought this with bosses looking directly at me, when I said "I've tried
but xp will not run on this POS" so what do you wanna do next? the answer
for half a month was, "well that machine was running perfectly, are you
sure?" Finaly got a person she had no choice to respect to say what I had
been saying, and the problem was over... that was one in 20, it could be
closer to one in 5 this time, I dunno job security I guess?

Alan Bernardo enlightened us with:
Quote:
"MC" <mcasey (AT) NOTREQUIREDbtinternet (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:M9OdnSpRjORe8l_YnZ2dnUVZ8v2vnZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com...



Name one reason why anyone who's serious about racing sims in
general would want to upgrade?

Jan.
=---

I remember the same daft comments when XP first came out (in this
very NG as it happens), it didn't take long...
Regards
Martin


What you fail to consider is that there has to be an advantage to
switching, justifying the cost, generally speaking. The jump from
Windows 98 (skipping that awful thing in between) to XP was enormous;
the jump from XP to Vista appears to be much smaller. So actually
the comment is not "daft", as you call it. Your failure to see the
difference of the jump between Windows 98 to XP and that between XP
and Vista is what I might consider a "daft" assessment.

Alanb



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Alan Bernardo
 
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 02-02-2007 , 09:46 AM




"Plowboy" <Plow (AT) boy (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Alan, I know this has been said before, but there are some tell - tale
signs, if you ask me, that this version of Windows could be even pickier
than the crap we all went through upgrading from 98 to XP. Porbably good
that were all gamers here and probably bought less "cheapo" parts than
your neighbor... But being in IT, and support it looks worse, if you ask
me, than the XP ordeal...

I don't use my computer for work nor any high finance stuff. I mess with
games, do a little spreadsheet stuff, surf, and goof with mail and
newsgroups. For me, when I went from Win98 to XP the transition was as
painless as I ever thought it would be. And for me, the differences and
advantages between Win98 and XP were enormous.

I realize that my experience might be very different from others',
especially those in the computer industry. XP has been so stable for my
needs, that going from XP to Vista would be like tearing up a lottery ticket
when I knew I absolutely knew I had hit the jackpot.

This may all change, once the verdict is in a year from now. But currently,
I see no advantage to me for switching to Vista.

Alanb




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Plowboy
 
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Default Re: vista and gpl - 02-02-2007 , 11:48 AM



ya, you and I are agreeing for your position, and most of mine personally, I
however am the goat (goto guy) in personal life and in daily work of what
about this and ect, so I will attemtp to adapt early because I need to, but
again I dont want to jeapordize my gaming at home either, lol.

trying to get me a MSDN OS sub at work, I think the company can get it for
me, or give me a raise, imho, lol.
Alan Bernardo enlightened us with:
Quote:
"Plowboy" <Plow (AT) boy (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:4LIwh.59689$sE7.14322 (AT) newsfe21 (DOT) lga...
Alan, I know this has been said before, but there are some tell -
tale signs, if you ask me, that this version of Windows could be
even pickier than the crap we all went through upgrading from 98 to
XP. Porbably good that were all gamers here and probably bought
less "cheapo" parts than your neighbor... But being in IT, and
support it looks worse, if you ask me, than the XP ordeal...


I don't use my computer for work nor any high finance stuff. I mess
with games, do a little spreadsheet stuff, surf, and goof with mail
and newsgroups. For me, when I went from Win98 to XP the transition
was as painless as I ever thought it would be. And for me, the
differences and advantages between Win98 and XP were enormous.

I realize that my experience might be very different from others',
especially those in the computer industry. XP has been so stable for
my needs, that going from XP to Vista would be like tearing up a
lottery ticket when I knew I absolutely knew I had hit the jackpot.

This may all change, once the verdict is in a year from now. But
currently, I see no advantage to me for switching to Vista.

Alanb



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