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1998 BMW IL Oil Change Interval?
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Re: 1998 BMW IL Oil Change Interval? -
01-26-2006
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In article <Ye2dnZj4kLslT0XenZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d (AT) adelphia (DOT) com>, Fred W <Malt_Hound@*spam-me-not*yahoo.com> wrote: Dave asks: Changing the final drive lubricant helped smooth gear changing? Do tell how... ;-) Opps, meant to say changing MANUAL TRANSMISSION FLUID with Royal Purple made by car shift nice and smooth. Actually you did say that. Dave is just picking nits... Dammit. Sussed out again... But I'll throw this in. Draining your battery, flushing through with distilled water and replenishing with new electrolyte at about 3 years old is likely to extend its life. Does anyone bother? |
report back on how it works out for you, Dave. ;-)
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-Fred W
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Huw wrote: bfd wrote: There you go, BASF make it in Europe. Yes, BASF, Valvoline, doesn't matter... same stuff. In fact Glysantin an organic acid technology additive licensed to many coolant brands such as Mobil. These coolants meet the standards as laid down by various motor manufacturers. They are not compatible with green/blue/purple or pink coolants though. OAT coolants are red or orange in colour. You can mix brands no problem but do not mix red/orange coolants with the more common conventional SCA glycol coloured coolants. Wrong. Glysantin G 48 is not an OAT coolant and it is blue in color. |
chemistry but is miscible as far as I can tell. The colour is not an
infallible guide to type. Some OAT coolants vary in colour, for instance
Honda sometimes use an OAT coolant that is dark green.
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G lysantin G 30 is an OAT coolant and is red. BMW coolant is G 48 (blue). I have never seen any recomendation to use G 30 (or any other OAT coolant for that matter) in any BMW, ever. |
BMW engine and it is red.
Approved coolants according to my car manual for both diesel and petrol BMW
engines of all sizes are listed as
Aral Antifreeze Extra
Caltex CX
DEA Kuhlerfrostschutz
Elf Special
Fina Termidor
Glyco Star
Glysantin Protect Plus/G48
Gusofrost LV505
Mobil Frostshutz 600
Havolene AFC (BD04)
Motul Inugel Expert
Total multiprotect
Veedol Antifreeze NF
OMV Kuhlerfrostshutz
Castrol NF
BP anti-frost X2270A or BP Napgel C2270-1
Esso Antifreeze Extra
Fuchs Fricofin
Total Elf Glacelf MDX
Texaco Havolene HELAC extended life coolant or TELC
Valvolene G-48
Plenty of choice there for you. I have not checked but it may be that some
of those are OAT coolants but most are Hybrid OAT. Certainly I can find no
evidence that the G48 coolant is much different to the newer OAT coolants
except that in addition to being nitrite, amine, phosphate and borate free,
OAT is also silicate free but really who cares. The fact is that all those
coolants are approved not just BMW and Valvolene as you thought. There are
probably many other suitable coolants available where you are.
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My 100,000 mile 8 year old Land Cruiser was factory filled with organic acid tech glycol coolant [Toyota Forlife] and it is still good. I do intend to change it soon though. Is the Mobil version not available in the US? Stick "borate free coolant" or "organic acid coolant" into Google and see how many brands make equivilent coolants. Any of these can substitute the BMW product. Nothing critically unique and essential in a particular brand for BMW, just the type. No. You are dead wrong. You should not be using OAT coolants in a BMW. Here in the US there are a lot of brands of OAT coolants (orange mostly) and a lot of the green crap. It is a lot harder to find the correct (blue) coolant in stores. |
yours, it might be blue or red perhaps.
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complain of the price of a small quantity of oil. Some 4.5 litres more than
needed for your service. You certainly don't seem to think that it is cheap
insurance.
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Then again, I plan on using Saab "blue" stuff the next time I change coolant. Just remember that if red or orange coolant was previously used then a couple of flushes with clean water and ideally with a flushing buffer chemical is recommended before refilling with a different *type* of coolant such as the common blue or green. SAAB branded coolant is G 48, same exact stuff from the same exact factories as BMW brand coolant. Blue coolant is not common. It is G 48 which is not anything like the truly commmon green crap. |
Like I said, my BMW is filled with red, probably Castrol which is the
sponsored recommendation. There is a list above of approved coolants which I
suspect is far from comprehensive or complete but is accurate.
Huw
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In article <Ye2dnZj4kLslT0XenZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d (AT) adelphia (DOT) com>, Fred W <Malt_Hound@*spam-me-not*yahoo.com> wrote: Dave asks: Changing the final drive lubricant helped smooth gear changing? Do tell how... ;-) Opps, meant to say changing MANUAL TRANSMISSION FLUID with Royal Purple made by car shift nice and smooth. Actually you did say that. Dave is just picking nits... Dammit. Sussed out again... But I'll throw this in. Draining your battery, flushing through with distilled water and replenishing with new electrolyte at about 3 years old is likely to extend its life. Does anyone bother? |
Huw
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Huw wrote: Fred W wrote: Huw wrote: Apart from possibly the US built X5 they are not filled with Valvolene at the factory. If they are filled with BMW branded / labeled coolant then they are. That is what is inside the bottle with the fancy silver BMW label. Valvoline / Zerek G 48. You didn't really think that BMW manufactured their own coolant did you? No, but did you really think that the BMW consumer packs available in the US was the same stuff they use in their European and African factories? No Sir. Ummm, yes it is. BASF AG and Valvoline cooperatively developed Glysantin coolants. Whether you buy it in the US or you buiy it in europe, the stuff in the BMW bottle is Glysantin G 48. |
approved coolants printed in my book for BMW engines. It appears to be a bit
more comprehensive than you have printed in your handbooks.
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BMW may even derive income from sponsership, which a recomended brand of fluid printed in a manual effectively is unless there is something very special and unique in the specification. The coolant is nothing special AFAIK. I can assure you that Valvolene is near non-existant as a brand in Europe and is certainly not used as a factory fill in Europe where most of your BMW's are assembled. Yes, well I already said it's the same. BMW probably put their coolant needs out to tender every few years and the cheapest supplier gets the deal. Nonsense. It has been Glysantin for decades. |
that does not mean that Castrol is the only blender to produce a suitable
oil.
Huw
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Huw wrote: Suitable fluid would be Mobil1 synthetic ATF. It will not be commonplace on store shelves but should be available to order if you can find someone who can be bothered to do so. As indeed should the fluids from Shell and Esso etc. Best place to order these would be at a specialist oil distributor who should be more co-operative. ...and you base this recomendation on what? I have been unable to find any direct evidence from either BMW or the transmission manufacturer (ZF) that any fluid is acceptable to use in these transmissions except Shell LA 2634. |
Autosport' in the USA in 1litre cans for US$14.95.
I make no actual recommendation so feel free not to use it. Bavarian
Autosport do recommend the stuff for what that's worth.
Huw
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Fred W wrote: Huw wrote: Suitable fluid would be Mobil1 synthetic ATF. It will not be commonplace on store shelves but should be available to order if you can find someone who can be bothered to do so. As indeed should the fluids from Shell and Esso etc. Best place to order these would be at a specialist oil distributor who should be more co-operative. ...and you base this recomendation on what? I have been unable to find any direct evidence from either BMW or the transmission manufacturer (ZF) that any fluid is acceptable to use in these transmissions except Shell LA 2634. A cursory search has found equivalent oil available from 'Bavarian Autosport' in the USA in 1litre cans for US$14.95. I make no actual recommendation so feel free not to use it. Bavarian Autosport do recommend the stuff for what that's worth. Huw |
filter the products (94 540iA) it does not display any transmission
fluids.
Could you provide a link?
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