locked out of BMW update

Just tried to open the E34 as someone said try here, didnt work with the key
in any door with the master key and holding up the handle etc etc. ok only
way is jacking it up and powers leads from a charger onto the neg earth body
and back of the...ok i forget :-)

http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/Locked.htm

still cant get into the boot, tried again, it seems the clifford alarm has
dead locked that too, it did with the fob until the battery went dead

BTW
I have picked up another almost identical E34 525i off ebay, get it in about
a week

How much a place charge to take off that alarm and pop it on the new one? I
know all the wires are colourless etc and it needs a approved place, but it
was a damn good alarm/imob etc. a G5
cheers

In article <jCivh.187834$MO2.179861 (AT) fe3 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Jules <julianhales (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Just tried to open the E34 as someone said try here, didnt work with the
key in any door with the master key and holding up the handle etc etc.
ok only way is jacking it up and powers leads from a charger onto the
neg earth body and back of the...ok i forget :-)

http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/Locked.htm

still cant get into the boot, tried again, it seems the clifford alarm
has dead locked that too, it did with the fob until the battery went dead

IIRC, on my E34, the remote didn't set the deadlocks - you had to use the
key for this. Which obviously moved the central locking motors to a
different state. However, the key would still operate the one door
deadlock mechanically. Sounds like that link has been removed. Gawd knows
why because most forced entries to steal things from a car don't involve a
key but a hammer...;-)

--
*Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.

Dave Plowman dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

In article <jCivh.187834$MO2.179861 (AT) fe3 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Jules <julianhales (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Just tried to open the E34 as someone said try here, didnt work with the
key in any door with the master key and holding up the handle etc etc.
ok only way is jacking it up and powers leads from a charger onto the
neg earth body and back of the...ok i forget :-)

http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/Locked.htm

still cant get into the boot, tried again, it seems the clifford alarm
has dead locked that too, it did with the fob until the battery went
dead

IIRC, on my E34, the remote didn't set the deadlocks - you had to use the
key for this. Which obviously moved the central locking motors to a
different state. However, the key would still operate the one door
deadlock mechanically. Sounds like that link has been removed. Gawd knows
why because most forced entries to steal things from a car don't involve a
key but a hammer...;-)

--
*Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.

Dave Plowman dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Someone smashed the window on my 525 touring to steal a damaged alloy
wheel...they couldnt open the doors cos of the deadlock and it wouldnt fit
thru the broken window....bastards

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jules" <julianhales (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.autos.bmw
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: locked out of BMW update

Someone smashed the window on my 525 touring to steal a damaged alloy
wheel...they couldnt open the doors cos of the deadlock and it wouldnt fit
thru the broken window....bastards

JoshIII comments:
When a reporter asked Cheech Marin (of Cheech and Chong fame)
at the 2004 BMW Celebrity Pro/Am Golf Tourney here
if he owned a BMW, his reply:
"No, where I come from BMW stands for 'Break My Window'..."

JoshIII
1980 320i 4cyl 1.8L with A/C
Greenville, SC
josh3i (AT) hotmail (DOT) com

"Jules" <julianhales (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:4eacbae5c7dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk...
In article <jCivh.187834$MO2.179861 (AT) fe3 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Jules <julianhales (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Just tried to open the E34 as someone said try here, didnt work with
the
key in any door with the master key and holding up the handle etc etc.
ok only way is jacking it up and powers leads from a charger onto the
neg earth body and back of the...ok i forget :-)

http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/Locked.htm

still cant get into the boot, tried again, it seems the clifford alarm
has dead locked that too, it did with the fob until the battery went
dead

IIRC, on my E34, the remote didn't set the deadlocks - you had to use the
key for this. Which obviously moved the central locking motors to a
different state. However, the key would still operate the one door
deadlock mechanically. Sounds like that link has been removed. Gawd knows
why because most forced entries to steal things from a car don't involve
a
key but a hammer...;-)

--
*Reality is a crutch for people who can't handle drugs.

Dave Plowman dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Someone smashed the window on my 525 touring to steal a damaged alloy
wheel...they couldnt open the doors cos of the deadlock and it wouldnt fit
thru the broken window....bastards

Didn't they try the windscreen?

I am seriously confused by your problem. The door locks on my '94, and (I
think, but am not certain) my '00 3Series cars are mechanical.

I've phisically had the lock (driver door) out of my car and know for
certain that it is mechanically operated by the key. It is also electrically
operated by the key in the other door, and by depressing the door lock on
any door. The only lock that does not operate the other locks is the trunk
lock. I can lock the car from the trunk, but I can not unlock the car from
the trunk. I'm certain the problem there is in the trunk, not any of the
other locks.







"Jules" <julianhales (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Just tried to open the E34 as someone said try here, didnt work with the
key
in any door with the master key and holding up the handle etc etc. ok
only
way is jacking it up and powers leads from a charger onto the neg earth
body
and back of the...ok i forget :-)

http://www.bmwe34.net/e34main/trouble/Locked.htm

still cant get into the boot, tried again, it seems the clifford alarm has
dead locked that too, it did with the fob until the battery went dead

BTW
I have picked up another almost identical E34 525i off ebay, get it in
about
a week

How much a place charge to take off that alarm and pop it on the new one?
I
know all the wires are colourless etc and it needs a approved place, but
it
was a damn good alarm/imob etc. a G5
cheers

In article <Expvh.2554$eH.1543@trnddc05>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

I am seriously confused by your problem. The door locks on my '94, and
(I think, but am not certain) my '00 3Series cars are mechanical.

I've phisically had the lock (driver door) out of my car and know for
certain that it is mechanically operated by the key. It is also
electrically operated by the key in the other door, and by depressing
the door lock on any door. The only lock that does not operate the
other locks is the trunk lock. I can lock the car from the trunk, but I
can not unlock the car from the trunk. I'm certain the problem there is
in the trunk, not any of the other locks.

It's some time since I had an E34, but IIRC you turned the key a second
time to activate the dead locks. And since it did all the doors it must be
motorised. But you could open a deadlocked door with the key even with a
flat battery - just the rest stayed locked. So I *guess* it would be
possible to remove that mechanical link and make the central locking
deadlock with a remote. Dunno why you would, though. BTW, my E34 had an
aftermarket alarm/ remote system fitted.

--
*No word in the English language rhymes with month, orange, silver,purple

Dave Plowman dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

In article <Expvh.2554$eH.1543@trnddc05>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote:
I am seriously confused by your problem. The door locks on my '94, and
(I think, but am not certain) my '00 3Series cars are mechanical.

I've phisically had the lock (driver door) out of my car and know for
certain that it is mechanically operated by the key. It is also
electrically operated by the key in the other door, and by depressing
the door lock on any door. The only lock that does not operate the
other locks is the trunk lock. I can lock the car from the trunk, but I
can not unlock the car from the trunk. I'm certain the problem there is
in the trunk, not any of the other locks.

It's some time since I had an E34, but IIRC you turned the key a second
time to activate the dead locks. And since it did all the doors it must be
motorised. But you could open a deadlocked door with the key even with a
flat battery - just the rest stayed locked. So I *guess* it would be
possible to remove that mechanical link and make the central locking
deadlock with a remote. Dunno why you would, though. BTW, my E34 had an
aftermarket alarm/ remote system fitted.

The way my car works is that the keys turn the locks mechanically and strike
a switch that activates the other locks on the car. The key mechanically
activates the lock that the key is inserted into, but the remaining locks
are operated electrically. That is why I confused by the OP's problem. If he
wanted to open the doors with his fob, then the electrics might not work,
and the doors would remain locked, but the lock that gets the key should
operate mechanically.

Jules wrote:

Just tried to open the E34 as someone said try here, didnt work with the key
in any door with the master key and holding up the handle etc etc. ok only
way is jacking it up and powers leads from a charger onto the neg earth body
and back of the...ok i forget :-)

You are supposed to be able to unlock it by holding up the handle and
turning the lock in the driver's door - the manual tells the procedure
- but that didn't work on mine because it was stiff from lack of use.
We opened the boot, which should be easy even when deadlocked (just
turn the key all the way around), and connected another battery to the
interior light, having removed the bulb. That provided enough power to
unlock using the central locking.

"Dan Buchan" <danbuchan (AT) email (DOT) com> wrote

Jules wrote:
Just tried to open the E34 as someone said try here, didnt work with the
key
in any door with the master key and holding up the handle etc etc. ok
only
way is jacking it up and powers leads from a charger onto the neg earth
body
and back of the...ok i forget :-)

You are supposed to be able to unlock it by holding up the handle and
turning the lock in the driver's door - the manual tells the procedure
- but that didn't work on mine because it was stiff from lack of use.
We opened the boot, which should be easy even when deadlocked (just
turn the key all the way around), and connected another battery to the
interior light, having removed the bulb. That provided enough power to
unlock using the central locking.

i tried both doors, nothing and boot too.

bah