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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-23-2006 , 04:16 PM






rnewhouse (AT) mcg (DOT) net wrote:
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I tried the passenger door trick and it didn't work either. Hmmm.Since
I bought this car used I wonder if the key I have may be the valet key
(except it opens the trunk and locks it just fine, but opening the
trunck with that key does not unlock the doors)

I was able to unlock the doors on my 88 325iS from the trunk lock using
the master key. I assume this would be true for an 89 IF you really
have the master key AND your battery isn't kaput. Have you checked the
voltage at the "jump" terminal under the hood?

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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-23-2006 , 06:52 PM






ive gotten in my 88 325is by using a triangular wooden "wedge" to pry
the door open enough to get a coat hanger through and pop the lock
knob(won't say which idiot locked the keys in it lol)...gl...dave

rnewhouse (AT) mcg (DOT) net wrote:

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I tried the passenger door trick and it didn't work either. Hmmm.Since
I bought this car used I wonder if the key I have may be the valet key
(except it opens the trunk and locks it just fine, but opening the
trunck with that key does not unlock the doors)



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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-23-2006 , 07:12 PM



Well, my battery is good, fuse is good and key still cannot unlock the
door. I called one dealership and the service guy said BMW's didn't
have a double lock system. The parts dept at the other BMW dealer said
a "slimjim" would easily work to open the door. He said the 325 BMW is
the easiest car on the road to break into. Other guys say he doesn't
know what he's talking about. I'm amazed at the variety of conflicting
info I get from those guys.

I'm willing to try your suggestion but I'm not sure I fully understand
it. The wedge goes where? Between the window and the outside panel OR
between the door and the rear fender? Where is the "lock knob" located
and just how does one pop it? Thanks for helping.

I've got my brick ready and am about to break a window so at least I
can get in it, but I'm hoping to avoid that - I live in Minnesota and
it's winter !


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Josh Assing
 
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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-23-2006 , 08:00 PM



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door. I called one dealership and the service guy said BMW's didn't
have a double lock system. The parts dept at the other BMW dealer said
a "slimjim" would easily work to open the door. He said the 325 BMW is

Just so we know to steer clear of these two dealerships -- who were they?

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I've got my brick ready and am about to break a window so at least I
Price the window first before you break it... If you're really going to go
that route -- get a window repair man there & repalce your windshield -- some
insurance companys pay for it if there's a "ding" in teh windshield (hint: check
with your insurance before you put a ding in it)

When the glass guy pulls the windshield off; climb in; get your owners manual;
read it; and realize you do have a double lock system & then open the door from
the inside.



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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-23-2006 , 09:10 PM



rnewhouse (AT) mcg (DOT) net wrote:
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Well, my battery is good, fuse is good and key still cannot unlock the
door. I called one dealership and the service guy said BMW's didn't
have a double lock system. The parts dept at the other BMW dealer said
a "slimjim" would easily work to open the door. He said the 325 BMW is
the easiest car on the road to break into. Other guys say he doesn't
know what he's talking about. I'm amazed at the variety of conflicting
info I get from those guys.

I'm willing to try your suggestion but I'm not sure I fully understand
it. The wedge goes where? Between the window and the outside panel OR
between the door and the rear fender? Where is the "lock knob" located
and just how does one pop it? Thanks for helping.

I've got my brick ready and am about to break a window so at least I
can get in it, but I'm hoping to avoid that - I live in Minnesota and
it's winter !

Any BMW dealership that said BMW never had a double lock system is just
stupid and does not deserve a single dime of your hard earned money.
The link I provided describes exactly the features of the E30 central
locking and mechanical locking and there most certainly is double locking...

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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-23-2006 , 11:50 PM



The first was Motorworks in Bloomington. (I've had diagnostic problems
with them before)
The other was the parts dept at Sears Import. These are the only two
BMW dealerships I know of in the Minneapolis area.

If I could get inside, should I be able to pull the handle and open the
door or does the double locking system prevent even that? Just curious.


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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-24-2006 , 07:27 AM



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The first was Motorworks in Bloomington. (I've had diagnostic problems
with them before)
The other was the parts dept at Sears Import. These are the only two
BMW dealerships I know of in the Minneapolis area.
Those in Minneapolis area -- take note.

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If I could get inside, should I be able to pull the handle and open the
door or does the double locking system prevent even that? Just curious.
I think the drivers door will open; but I'm not 100% sure -- and it's too early
to go to the car to lock myself in ;-)



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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-24-2006 , 07:50 AM



rnewhouse (AT) mcg (DOT) net wrote:
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The first was Motorworks in Bloomington. (I've had diagnostic problems
with them before)
The other was the parts dept at Sears Import. These are the only two
BMW dealerships I know of in the Minneapolis area.

If I could get inside, should I be able to pull the handle and open the
door or does the double locking system prevent even that? Just curious.

Yes, the double locking prevents the doors from being opened from the
inside, so breaking the glass does nothing unless you want to climb
through the broken window...

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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-24-2006 , 10:45 AM



Thanks for helping me avoid the pain of broken glass imbedded in my
legs. So, right now the only option I can come up with is that the
tumblers have broken inside the lock cylinder. If I drill out the lock
cylinder and the tumblers fall apart, will the door then open by
lifting up on the handle from the outside?


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Default Re: 89 BMW 325ic key won't open lock - 01-24-2006 , 01:39 PM



rnewhouse (AT) mcg (DOT) net wrote:
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Thanks for helping me avoid the pain of broken glass imbedded in my
legs. So, right now the only option I can come up with is that the
tumblers have broken inside the lock cylinder. If I drill out the lock
cylinder and the tumblers fall apart, will the door then open by
lifting up on the handle from the outside?

I don't know for sure... Let's go over all the info from the
Troubleshooting FAQ again...

"If the car is double-locked, the passengers' door double-lock motor
prevents the key lock from being rotated so the car can only be unlocked
from the driver's door. "

"Unlocking a double-locked car: This action can only be initiated from
the driver's door key lock. When the key is rotated CCW from its
double-locked position, it releases the ground connection of the unlock
inhibit microswitch. (Actually, once this is done, the trunk key lock
can also be used to unlock the car.) "

Since you cannot move the drivers lock at all, you will never be able to
get out of the "double lock" mode. Also, since you used your key to put
the car into double-lock, the same key should be capable of undoing it.
You are using the same key, right? The part of the key that engages
the double lock is the tip. Is the key worn at all?

One thing that you could try is to get a new key made from the
dealership from scratch. That would certainly be worth a shot.



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