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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 03:56 AM






In article <i7ujq1lbrd6603irh5gs48jiavp2eiaos0 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
dizzy <dizzy (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote:
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They don't make FWD cars. FWD is cheap and fills a market niche, but
BMW does not sink so low.
But they do with their Mini. Also a premium priced product.
Think you're being unfair about FWD. Although I prefer RWD, FWD offers a
much better package in a small car. You only have to look at the 1 Series
to realise this.

Since the current Mini is let down by poor engines, it will be interesting
to see how the new version with better ones compares to the 1 Series.

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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 04:13 AM






Perhaps its the way cars are percieved in the UK, but I do consider
Japanese cars to be in a class of their own quite seperate from the
"Asian" car makes that Dave listed.
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They are, but more normally referred to as Japanese. By Asian I meant
things like Kia and Hyundia.
Japanese cars are great, owned Nissans and Mitsibishis for years before
getting the BMW. I still say they don't quite match up to the premium
European brands for luxury/build quality/engineering, though their
reliability is beyond question.

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Even Daewoo. Oops. Chevrolet?
Lol, Chevrolet entered the UK market with re-badged Daewoos recently,
got to be one of the stupidest car marketing moves in history. No one
is fooled Chevrolet, we really don't need any more cheap car's to
choose from. I think I have seen 2 or 3 Chevies ever here. Bring
something new, good, competative and appealing to a European market and
Chevy might get somewhere.



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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 06:55 AM



On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:56:35 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> waffled on about something:

Quote:
In article <i7ujq1lbrd6603irh5gs48jiavp2eiaos0 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
dizzy <dizzy (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote:
They don't make FWD cars. FWD is cheap and fills a market niche, but
BMW does not sink so low.

But they do with their Mini. Also a premium priced product.
Think you're being unfair about FWD. Although I prefer RWD, FWD offers a
much better package in a small car. You only have to look at the 1 Series
to realise this.

Since the current Mini is let down by poor engines, it will be interesting
to see how the new version with better ones compares to the 1 Series.
A chap I work with has the new cooper S, he opened the bonnet (hood)
for me to have a look... Or more accurate he lifted up the entire
front of the car! Wings, headlamps, they all go up!

All I can say is God help anyone who want to do home servicing on one
of those! It's all stuffed in there like my holiday suitcase!

Dodgy.
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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 07:43 AM



In article <ft4lq1dl1217afv9i7cl0blttolch79jq1 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Dodgy <Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote:
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Since the current Mini is let down by poor engines, it will be interesting
to see how the new version with better ones compares to the 1 Series.

A chap I work with has the new cooper S, he opened the bonnet (hood)
for me to have a look... Or more accurate he lifted up the entire
front of the car! Wings, headlamps, they all go up!

All I can say is God help anyone who want to do home servicing on one
of those! It's all stuffed in there like my holiday suitcase!
So was the original Mini - changing and setting points was a pain as was
just changing a fan belt. And some hoses. And you had to do these rather
more often. ;-)

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Adrian & Angie
 
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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 07:50 AM



BRH wrote:

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1. Does BMW ever run "specials" on new car purchases - ie - rebates,
etc? Is there any "better" time to buy? Any buying tips?

2. Do BMW's generally require Premium gas? If so, what are the
practical consequences of running mid-grade or regular? Engine Damage
or just less-than-optimal performance? (By less-than optimal, I mean
just normal tooling ariound town - no redlining).

Our '87 528e runs fine on regular. It's one of the things I really like
about it. Our Chevy requires premium, as did our Ford before it. We
also have a Maxima, and it runs fine on 87 octane.

The real rule of thumb is this: put in the lower grade; if it pings
under load, go up in octane the next time around.
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3. I don't have a garage, but parking is off-street, so how well do BMW
bodies hold up? (I live in Central Virginia).
The sun is the big enemy of cosmetics. Cars in garages last longer
(cosmetically) than cars not in garages, and you don't have to wax as
often. But you don't have a garage, so it's moot. You might consider a
car cover if it concerns you. At the very least, try to park in the
shade and use a windshield screen.
That being said, I don't think BMWs do any better or worse than any
other car out in the elements.
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Can't think of anything else to ask right now. Any help with these
questions would be appreciated.

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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 01:08 PM




"Adrian & Angie" <apv (AT) pixallure (DOT) com> wrote

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BRH wrote:


2. Do BMW's generally require Premium gas? If so, what are the
practical consequences of running mid-grade or regular? Engine Damage or
just less-than-optimal performance? (By less-than optimal, I mean just
normal tooling ariound town - no redlining).

Our '87 528e runs fine on regular. It's one of the things I really like
about it. Our Chevy requires premium, as did our Ford before it. We also
have a Maxima, and it runs fine on 87 octane.

The real rule of thumb is this: put in the lower grade; if it pings under
load, go up in octane the next time around.
You are referring to 20 year old technology. All recent BMW's have knock
sensors which will result in reduced performance and gas mileage in lieu of
knock or ping.

Tom K.




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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 02:39 PM



On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:43:04 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> waffled on about something:

Quote:
In article <ft4lq1dl1217afv9i7cl0blttolch79jq1 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Dodgy <Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote:
Since the current Mini is let down by poor engines, it will be interesting
to see how the new version with better ones compares to the 1 Series.

A chap I work with has the new cooper S, he opened the bonnet (hood)
for me to have a look... Or more accurate he lifted up the entire
front of the car! Wings, headlamps, they all go up!

All I can say is God help anyone who want to do home servicing on one
of those! It's all stuffed in there like my holiday suitcase!

So was the original Mini - changing and setting points was a pain as was
just changing a fan belt. And some hoses. And you had to do these rather
more often. ;-)
Having had a "real" mini, I'd rather work on that than the new one...
Even if I did have to put a marigold over the dizzy cap when it
rained!

I could barely see the oil filter on the new mini, let alone touch it!

Dodgy.
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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 03:04 PM



Wait until Cherry/Chery start shipping cars out of China. At the
reported $12-15K for a fully loaded "luxuary" car, all the other
companies are going to be hurting!


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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-22-2005 , 06:18 PM



Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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dizzy <dizzy (AT) nospam (DOT) invalid> wrote:

They don't make FWD cars. FWD is cheap and fills a market niche, but
BMW does not sink so low.

But they do with their Mini.
Mini's not BMW.



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Default Re: Considering a BMW - A Few Questions - 12-23-2005 , 03:48 AM



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Mini's not BMW.
Urmmm, the new model Mini's are. In the UK you see a "Mini" section
attached to the BMW dealership.



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