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E36 Rear Fog Light or Lights ?
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Re: E36 Rear Fog Light or Lights ? -
03-06-2007
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RustY© wrote: "BBO" <borge (AT) berg-olsen (DOT) net> wrote in message news:dI6dnZGO46E1mHDYRVnzvQ (AT) telenor (DOT) com... hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk wrote: "In the past, almost everybody travelled on the left side of the road because that was the most sensible option......... But a chap called Napoleon had a good idea to tell his troops from the Brits and made the French 'change sides' and march down the right hand side of the road. Other countries such as the yanks who were close allies of the French at the time soon changed too. As well as the UK others who remain on the 'correct side' include Australia, India, etc. Here is a better site http://www.brianlucas.ca/roadside/ Thanks - fascinating read. It's quite fun to read about the origins of certain practices that we now take for granted. Another trivia that I found not so long ago is that the size of the solid booster rockets of the space shuttle is determined by the size the wheelbase of a roman chariot... |
in them days and left the job to educate, rape and pillage foreign lands to us
Vikings and the British.
BTW I gave up pillaging as it was too boring!
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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"Dodgy" <Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote in message news:muamt25ejhaah966r6g3rbrgnols8sb3sp (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:39:35 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: You've got one side not working. The E36 was wired both sides (proper car!). It appears that they are not. Like other krauts the UK spec E36 has only the right hand unit wired up. The plug and socket have the wire / pin missing on the left. Tight Germans ! |
them both wired.
Maybe the previous owner modded it.
I'm gonna go check my '96 now, I must confess to not giving it a
second thought.
Dodgy.
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On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 00:22:59 GMT, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote: hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:5fvlu250iocm44cv1u85n9ggh3ge2rtln5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... No - because they only operate when the lights are on therefore you will have 2 x stock lamps + 2 x red FOG lamps so as you get closer you will see the 2 hi intensity fogs + 2 x stock rear lamps = 4 But if you are that close -SLOW DOWN! OR, people don't screw around adding a light that isn't supposed to be there. Then you can tell when you come up behind a car with a rear facing fog lamp, not some putz that drives around with his foot on the brake and the lights on. If two rear facing fog lamps was legal, I'm pretty sure the auto makers would wire them. Since they only wire one, my guess is that only one is legal. Actually in the UK and Europe the law is "A rear facing RED safety lamp must be fitted to the "offside" (side of the vehicle furthest from the kerb or sidewalk depending on which side of the road you drive on). As many "Euroland" vehicles drive in both LHD and RHD countries (UK - rest of the world excluding India, Australia, Japan etc) it is usual for the manufacturers to wire in both sides as it is now LAW - it wasn't once! All US cars that come into the UK and Euroland have to be retro fitted with some crap 25W rear facing RED fog lamp. These must be wired into the headlamp circuit and fitted with an indicator to show the drive they are ON. Just as All US and Euroland vehicles have to have "neutral" or left dipping headlamps - by neutral I mean Vertical dip so as not to blind/distract oncoming drivers. BMW have manual Left /Right dip settings on the headlamp shells annoying but necessary when I go to Euroland. In Euroland one Has to carry a complete set of replacement bulbs and a warning triangle and in France (possibly elsewhere) a full First Aid kit and in France if one sees an accident one MUST stop and help. In Spain one MUST carry a Day-Glo yellow safety vest and wear it when working outside the car on a public road - changing a tyre (tire) etc. In Europe all vehicles must have Speedos calibrated in both KPH and MPH - some are electronic and are switchable as on the BMW MPG / L per 100KM as can also be calibrated US MPG/Imp MPG. |
road without putting up a concrete barrier, let alone a dayglo jacket!
Dodgy.
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hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk wrote: What about Poland? Russia? and the ex soviet states. Didn't know they drove on the left. Do they? Silly buggers. |
Apart from anything else, the Poles wouldn't be doing any falling out
with the Pope.
Dodgy.
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MUSHROOMS ARE THE OPIATE OF THE MOOSES
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On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:14:30 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: "Dodgy" <Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote in message news:muamt25ejhaah966r6g3rbrgnols8sb3sp (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:39:35 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: You've got one side not working. The E36 was wired both sides (proper car!). It appears that they are not. Like other krauts the UK spec E36 has only the right hand unit wired up. The plug and socket have the wire / pin missing on the left. Tight Germans ! Really? Sorry for leading you astray, but my '94 E36 certainly had them both wired. Maybe the previous owner modded it. I'm gonna go check my '96 now, I must confess to not giving it a second thought. Dodgy. |
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:34:03 +0000, Dodgy Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote: On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:14:30 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: "Dodgy" <Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote in message news:muamt25ejhaah966r6g3rbrgnols8sb3sp (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:39:35 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: You've got one side not working. The E36 was wired both sides (proper car!). It appears that they are not. Like other krauts the UK spec E36 has only the right hand unit wired up. The plug and socket have the wire / pin missing on the left. Tight Germans ! Really? Sorry for leading you astray, but my '94 E36 certainly had them both wired. Maybe the previous owner modded it. I'm gonna go check my '96 now, I must confess to not giving it a second thought. When did rear fog lights become mandated? I drove a 1991 Alfa Romeo 33 QV while I lived in the Netherlands 1990 - 1994 and I'm sure it didn't have rear fog lights. Nor do I remember seeing them on many cars in the Holland during that time. Or perhaps I just wasn't observant. |
nothing like the pea-soupers we had in the 60's.
It really has to be bad for folk to use them unless they are over 75 and blind
or 20 and a young mum with sprogs in the back then they drive on full beam front
and back all the time with notices in the window stating "young Person on board"
with mother that has no brain and cannot drive.
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:19:51 -0800, Jed <zyzygy@plenipôtentiary.com.invalid wrote: On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:34:03 +0000, Dodgy Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote: On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:14:30 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: "Dodgy" <Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote in message news:muamt25ejhaah966r6g3rbrgnols8sb3sp (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:39:35 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: You've got one side not working. The E36 was wired both sides (proper car!). It appears that they are not. Like other krauts the UK spec E36 has only the right hand unit wired up. The plug and socket have the wire / pin missing on the left. Tight Germans ! Really? Sorry for leading you astray, but my '94 E36 certainly had them both wired. Maybe the previous owner modded it. I'm gonna go check my '96 now, I must confess to not giving it a second thought. When did rear fog lights become mandated? I drove a 1991 Alfa Romeo 33 QV while I lived in the Netherlands 1990 - 1994 and I'm sure it didn't have rear fog lights. Nor do I remember seeing them on many cars in the Holland during that time. Or perhaps I just wasn't observant. Not many folk use them as here in the UK we still get mist and ground fog but nothing like the pea-soupers we had in the 60's. It really has to be bad for folk to use them unless they are over 75 and blind or 20 and a young mum with sprogs in the back then they drive on full beam front and back all the time with notices in the window stating "young Person on board" with mother that has no brain and cannot drive. |
like you're some kind of hooligan when you flash them up to try and
reduce the sunburn you're getting behind them!
Why on earth can't rear fogs be set so they automatically cancel when
the lights are turned off, or the car stopped.
Dodgy.
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MUSHROOMS ARE THE OPIATE OF THE MOOSES
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 17:34:12 +0000, hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk waffled on about something: On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:19:51 -0800, Jed <zyzygy@plenipôtentiary.com.invalid wrote: On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:34:03 +0000, Dodgy Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote: On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:14:30 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: "Dodgy" <Dodgy (AT) earth (DOT) planet.universe> wrote in message news:muamt25ejhaah966r6g3rbrgnols8sb3sp (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:39:35 GMT, "RustY©" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks waffled on about something: You've got one side not working. The E36 was wired both sides (proper car!). It appears that they are not. Like other krauts the UK spec E36 has only the right hand unit wired up. The plug and socket have the wire / pin missing on the left. Tight Germans ! Really? Sorry for leading you astray, but my '94 E36 certainly had them both wired. Maybe the previous owner modded it. I'm gonna go check my '96 now, I must confess to not giving it a second thought. When did rear fog lights become mandated? I drove a 1991 Alfa Romeo 33 QV while I lived in the Netherlands 1990 - 1994 and I'm sure it didn't have rear fog lights. Nor do I remember seeing them on many cars in the Holland during that time. Or perhaps I just wasn't observant. Not many folk use them as here in the UK we still get mist and ground fog but nothing like the pea-soupers we had in the 60's. It really has to be bad for folk to use them unless they are over 75 and blind or 20 and a young mum with sprogs in the back then they drive on full beam front and back all the time with notices in the window stating "young Person on board" with mother that has no brain and cannot drive. And then they leave them on for at least a fortnight, and look at you like you're some kind of hooligan when you flash them up to try and reduce the sunburn you're getting behind them! Why on earth can't rear fogs be set so they automatically cancel when the lights are turned off, or the car stopped. |
fog switch is not turned to off they will be ON again when stoopid mum gets back
in -- idiot fitted??????????????? your guess is as good or maybe better than
mine.
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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| BTW I gave up pillaging as it was too boring! |
attempt at trolling? I'll bet you've pillage many a village in just the
past 3-4 moons...
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| Not many folk use them (rear fogs) as here in the UK we still get mist and ground fog but nothing like the pea-soupers we had in the 60's. It really has to be bad for folk to use them unless they are over 75 and blind or 20 and a young mum with sprogs in the back then they drive on full beam front and back all the time with notices in the window stating "young Person on board" with mother that has no brain and cannot drive. |
"75 y/o blind or 20 and a young mum with sprogs in the back then they
drive on full beam front and back all the time with notices in the
window stating "young Person on board" with mother that has no brain and
cannot drive"
that is coming up behind you that those fogs might be helping you avoid.
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