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E39 3.0 - Oil consumption and suggestions
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Re: E39 3.0 - Oil consumption and suggestions -
02-23-2007
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In article <-MqdnX_DwL6Uw0PYnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com>, John Carrier <jxc2 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: I've had good experience with Mobil 1 over several vehicles and many miles. But I've yet to explore the 250,000+ frontier where meticulous oil service might (or might not) prove its worth. A good point. It's only at very high mileages any difference between quality oils and the mileage you change them *might* become apparent. |
change schedules based on the use of high quality, full synthetic oils.
If you tried to run the same engine on conventional oil using the same
change intervals, well... You will not have to worry about reaching
those high mileages.
One problem I have with Mobil 1 is that it is a very different oil in
the different labels and viscosities. And over time the formulations
have changed several times. Red cap/Blue cap, Silver cap... I tried
running the 10w30 in my BMW 325i and the vanos did not like it at all.
Too thin even though 10w30 is the recommended summer weight oil.
Lately I have been using only Shell Rotella-T full synthetic in my cars
(and motorcycles) that require synthetic oil. It is a 5W40 weight and I
have yet to find a situation for which it isn't the right stuff.
SAAB recommends the use on Mobile 1 0W40 for the late model 9-3 Sport
Sedans (this is what they use in their dealerships), but when my
daughter's went off warranty (over 50k miles) I switched it over to the
Rotella.
Oh, it can be had for ~ $15 a gallon at Walmarts in the US.
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Got my car on 64k miles, now it is at 76k all running fine. After about 6k, a message appeared "check engine oil level" (or words to that effect) which I did - it was low - put in about 0.8 of a litre of whatever BMW recommends. Now again, I am getting that message so it seems that we are consuming around a litre of oil every 6k miles - is that normal / within range of acceptable? Also is it really essential to go for the BMW-branded oil - I know the answer is of course NO but what should I be using instead? -- jeremy ['01 BMW 530iA SE Touring] |
around the filter housing. Oil was probably fairly low when you bought it.
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote: In article <-MqdnX_DwL6Uw0PYnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com>, John Carrier <jxc2 (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: I've had good experience with Mobil 1 over several vehicles and many miles. But I've yet to explore the 250,000+ frontier where meticulous oil service might (or might not) prove its worth. A good point. It's only at very high mileages any difference between quality oils and the mileage you change them *might* become apparent. Well, sort of. Many of the manufacturers recommend rather extended oil change schedules based on the use of high quality, full synthetic oils. If you tried to run the same engine on conventional oil using the same change intervals, well... You will not have to worry about reaching those high mileages. One problem I have with Mobil 1 is that it is a very different oil in the different labels and viscosities. And over time the formulations have changed several times. Red cap/Blue cap, Silver cap... I tried running the 10w30 in my BMW 325i and the vanos did not like it at all. Too thin even though 10w30 is the recommended summer weight oil. Lately I have been using only Shell Rotella-T full synthetic in my cars (and motorcycles) that require synthetic oil. It is a 5W40 weight and I have yet to find a situation for which it isn't the right stuff. SAAB recommends the use on Mobile 1 0W40 for the late model 9-3 Sport Sedans (this is what they use in their dealerships), but when my daughter's went off warranty (over 50k miles) I switched it over to the Rotella. Oh, it can be had for ~ $15 a gallon at Walmarts in the US. |
R / John
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"Fred W" <malt_hound (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:u7ednXBMztVHe0PYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Oh, it can be had for ~ $15 a gallon at Walmarts in the US. Close, about $22-25 for the 5 qt jug. |
I mentioned.
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John Carrier wrote: "Fred W" <malt_hound (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:u7ednXBMztVHe0PYnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Oh, it can be had for ~ $15 a gallon at Walmarts in the US. Close, about $22-25 for the 5 qt jug. No, Rotella is only available in 4 qt (gallon) jugs and it is the price I mentioned. |
R / John
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Got my car on 64k miles, now it is at 76k all running fine. After about 6k, a message appeared "check engine oil level" (or words to that effect) which I did - it was low - put in about 0.8 of a litre of whatever BMW recommends. Now again, I am getting that message so it seems that we are consuming around a litre of oil every 6k miles - is that normal / within range of acceptable? Also is it really essential to go for the BMW-branded oil - I know the answer is of course NO but what should I be using instead? -- jeremy ['01 BMW 530iA SE Touring] |
Castrol 0W-30 LL01 (dealer recommended), however by using Motul BMW
Specific LL01 5W-30 the usage reduced by about 20%.
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On Feb 22, 8:02 am, Jeremy <jeremy0... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Got my car on 64k miles, now it is at 76k all running fine. After about 6k, a message appeared "check engine oil level" (or words to that effect) which I did - it was low - put in about 0.8 of a litre of whatever BMW recommends. Now again, I am getting that message so it seems that we are consuming around a litre of oil every 6k miles - is that normal / within range of acceptable? Also is it really essential to go for the BMW-branded oil - I know the answer is of course NO but what should I be using instead? -- jeremy ['01 BMW 530iA SE Touring] My E46 330ci uses about the same. It used to use more when using Castrol 0W-30 LL01 (dealer recommended), however by using Motul BMW Specific LL01 5W-30 the usage reduced by about 20%. -------- |
to take advantage of the longer life and possibly better lube qualities of
synthetic. It sprung a leak almost immediately. I went to 20w50 non-synth
and problem solved. I was trying 10w40 synth. I have also heard that older
engines are better off with a heavier weight oil and a non-synth. For 172k
miles, mine is very well sealed and burns/leaks nothing. Between 3-4k mile
oil changes, it uses leass than half a quart.
Bill in Omaha
'86 535i
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"Pashlipops" <nickpashley (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1172307174.241844.108700 (AT) z35g2000cwz (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Feb 22, 8:02 am, Jeremy <jeremy0... (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Got my car on 64k miles, now it is at 76k all running fine. After about 6k, a message appeared "check engine oil level" (or words to that effect) which I did - it was low - put in about 0.8 of a litre of whatever BMW recommends. Now again, I am getting that message so it seems that we are consuming around a litre of oil every 6k miles - is that normal / within range of acceptable? Also is it really essential to go for the BMW-branded oil - I know the answer is of course NO but what should I be using instead? -- jeremy ['01 BMW 530iA SE Touring] My E46 330ci uses about the same. It used to use more when using Castrol 0W-30 LL01 (dealer recommended), however by using Motul BMW Specific LL01 5W-30 the usage reduced by about 20%. -------- I ran into a similar problem after some seal work with my '86 535i. I wanted to take advantage of the longer life and possibly better lube qualities of synthetic. It sprung a leak almost immediately. I went to 20w50 non-synth and problem solved. I was trying 10w40 synth. I have also heard that older engines are better off with a heavier weight oil and a non-synth. For 172k miles, mine is very well sealed and burns/leaks nothing. Between 3-4k mile oil changes, it uses leass than half a quart. Bill in Omaha '86 535i |
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I have not as yet been convinced of the virtues of synthetic oil and have been waiting for some evidence that it will extend the life of my engine. I have had excellent experience using conventional oil and am not willing to give that up without a little more evidence than advertising hype. I am writing to ask if anyone knows of any scientifically solid studies comparing engine wear rates between conventional and synthetic lubricants. |
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