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engineoil grade for BMW diesel engines
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engineoil grade for BMW diesel engines -
03-25-2007
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I have a BMW 335 diesel. It needs about a liter of engine oil. BMW is asking £16.00 for a liter. Is there an alternative I can buy from Halfords or elsewhere that will be equivalent to the BMW grade? I am in England. To repeat, it is for a diesel engine. TIA, Vijay |
SAE numbers and other Euroland specs are all listed but I'd go for a nice full
synth and it aint cheap. However if Mobil 1 is listed KwikFit do a nice oil and
filter change for around £35 which is about half price of buying the oil and a
filter and doing the job yourself.
Mobil 1 is about £20 - 4 lit can and you'd need 2 of them + filter and that
makes it about £50+ plus dumping the old stuff and the mess etc.
Its not worth pissing about.
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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On 25 Mar 2007 12:31:25 -0700, "Vijay" <guz... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: I have a BMW 335 diesel. It needs about a liter of engine oil. BMW is asking £16.00 for a liter. Is there an alternative I can buy from Halfords or elsewhere that will be equivalent to the BMW grade? I am in England. To repeat, it is for a diesel engine. TIA, Vijay What is the BMW spec.... its in the hand book! SAE numbers and other Euroland specs are all listed but I'd go for a nicefull synth and it aint cheap. However if Mobil 1 is listed KwikFit do a nice oil and filter change for around £35 which is about half price of buying the oil and a filter and doing the job yourself. Mobil 1 is about £20 - 4 lit can and you'd need 2 of them + filter and that makes it about £50+ plus dumping the old stuff and the mess etc. Its not worth pissing about. Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK |
The manual only lists BMW stamped oils and as I only need one liter
(my car is only 6 months old) and not an oil and filter change, I
thought £16.0 was quite dear. I thought petrol and diesel engines will
use the same engine oil but the manual states clearly they are
different. Whereas it provides detailed spec under petrol version, it
only mentions the BMW stamped oil for diesel.
Vijay
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On Mar 25, 10:10 pm, h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk wrote: On 25 Mar 2007 12:31:25 -0700, "Vijay" <guz... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: I have a BMW 335 diesel. It needs about a liter of engine oil. BMW is asking £16.00 for a liter. Is there an alternative I can buy from Halfords or elsewhere that will be equivalent to the BMW grade? I am in England. To repeat, it is for a diesel engine. TIA, Vijay What is the BMW spec.... its in the hand book! SAE numbers and other Euroland specs are all listed but I'd go for a nice full synth and it aint cheap. However if Mobil 1 is listed KwikFit do a nice oil and filter change for around £35 which is about half price of buying the oil and a filter and doing the job yourself. Mobil 1 is about £20 - 4 lit can and you'd need 2 of them + filter and that makes it about £50+ plus dumping the old stuff and the mess etc. Its not worth pissing about. Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK Thanks HUgh. The manual only lists BMW stamped oils and as I only need one liter (my car is only 6 months old) and not an oil and filter change, I thought £16.0 was quite dear. I thought petrol and diesel engines will use the same engine oil but the manual states clearly they are different. Whereas it provides detailed spec under petrol version, it only mentions the BMW stamped oil for diesel. Vijay Is this the 3.0L twin turbo diesel? If so the compression ratio is only 17:1 |
1 etc would be suitable but then again most diesel oils differ only in as much
as being highly detergent to keep the shit in suspension which I don't think is
required for modern high speed common rail turbo diesels. The most important
need for good oil is the turbo bearings - take my word for it as a one time
builder of turbo cars - those bearings can and do wipe out in milli seconds if
the oil is burnt onto the hot floating bearing after a fast run - diesel exhaust
don't run as hot as petrol engines but the cost of a damaged turbo can be
extortionate.
Even the BMW oil MUST have the specs on the bottle........... ASK and write it
down and look elsewhere however if you have a NEW BMW why are you moaning about
£16?????????????? when the car is worth £25K
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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My BMW diesel listed Castrol 0W-30 and 4 litres was nearer £40 Nick |
filter Mobil 1 deal) and as an ex-motor trade person I never consider Retail ;>)
this would make an oil + filter job an my V8 something like £85 to do it myself
and the aggro of dumping the oil and filter.
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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Car has done less than 5K miles. |
miles increase?
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jeremy
['01 BMW 530iA SE Touring]
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On 25 Mar 2007 14:56:40 -0700, "Vijay" <guz... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Mar 25, 10:10 pm, h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk wrote: On 25 Mar 2007 12:31:25 -0700, "Vijay" <guz... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: I have a BMW 335 diesel. It needs about a liter of engine oil. BMW is asking £16.00 for a liter. Is there an alternative I can buy from Halfords or elsewhere that will be equivalent to the BMW grade? I am in England. To repeat, it is for a diesel engine. TIA, Vijay What is the BMW spec.... its in the hand book! SAE numbers and other Euroland specs are all listed but I'd go for a nice full synth and it aint cheap. However if Mobil 1 is listed KwikFit do a nice oil and filter change for around £35 which is about half price of buying theoil and a filter and doing the job yourself. Mobil 1 is about £20 - 4 lit can and you'd need 2 of them + filter and that makes it about £50+ plus dumping the old stuff and the mess etc. Its not worth pissing about. Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK Thanks HUgh. The manual only lists BMW stamped oils and as I only need one liter (my car is only 6 months old) and not an oil and filter change, I thought £16.0 was quite dear. I thought petrol and diesel engines will use the same engine oil but the manual states clearly they are different. Whereas it provides detailed spec under petrol version, it only mentions the BMW stamped oil for diesel. Vijay Is this the 3.0L twin turbo diesel? If so the compression ratio is only 17:1 instead of the usual 22:1 of common diesels so I would think the synthetic Mobil 1 etc would be suitable but then again most diesel oils differ only in asmuch as being highly detergent to keep the shit in suspension which I don't think is required for modern high speed common rail turbo diesels. The most important need for good oil is the turbo bearings - take my word for it as a one time builder of turbo cars - those bearings can and do wipe out in milli seconds if the oil is burnt onto the hot floating bearing after a fast run - diesel exhaust don't run as hot as petrol engines but the cost of a damaged turbo can be extortionate. Even the BMW oil MUST have the specs on the bottle........... ASK and write it down and look elsewhere however if you have a NEW BMW why are you moaningabout £16?????????????? when the car is worth £25K Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK |
just that I thought if Ihad already paid close to 40K (yep! not 25K
you guessed) for the motor, BMW could have easily topped it up gratis
with the liter oil that it required. Car had gone in for a totally
unrelated warranty work (to get the indicator fixed) and they
discovered the oil consumption. Car has done less than 5K miles.
Vijay
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On Mar 26, 8:57 am, h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk wrote: On 25 Mar 2007 14:56:40 -0700, "Vijay" <guz... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: On Mar 25, 10:10 pm, h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk wrote: On 25 Mar 2007 12:31:25 -0700, "Vijay" <guz... (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: I have a BMW 335 diesel. It needs about a liter of engine oil. BMW is asking £16.00 for a liter. Is there an alternative I can buy from Halfords or elsewhere that will be equivalent to the BMW grade? I am in England. To repeat, it is for a diesel engine. TIA, Vijay What is the BMW spec.... its in the hand book! SAE numbers and other Euroland specs are all listed but I'd go for a nice full synth and it aint cheap. However if Mobil 1 is listed KwikFit do a nice oil and filter change for around £35 which is about half price of buying the oil and a filter and doing the job yourself. Mobil 1 is about £20 - 4 lit can and you'd need 2 of them + filter and that makes it about £50+ plus dumping the old stuff and the mess etc. Its not worth pissing about. Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK Thanks HUgh. The manual only lists BMW stamped oils and as I only need one liter (my car is only 6 months old) and not an oil and filter change, I thought £16.0 was quite dear. I thought petrol and diesel engines will use the same engine oil but the manual states clearly they are different. Whereas it provides detailed spec under petrol version, it only mentions the BMW stamped oil for diesel. Vijay Is this the 3.0L twin turbo diesel? If so the compression ratio is only 17:1 instead of the usual 22:1 of common diesels so I would think the synthetic Mobil 1 etc would be suitable but then again most diesel oils differ only in as much as being highly detergent to keep the shit in suspension which I don't think is required for modern high speed common rail turbo diesels. The most important need for good oil is the turbo bearings - take my word for it as a one time builder of turbo cars - those bearings can and do wipe out in milli seconds if the oil is burnt onto the hot floating bearing after a fast run - diesel exhaust don't run as hot as petrol engines but the cost of a damaged turbo can be extortionate. Even the BMW oil MUST have the specs on the bottle........... ASK and write it down and look elsewhere however if you have a NEW BMW why are you moaning about £16?????????????? when the car is worth £25K Sir Hugh of Bognor The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys. Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it! Hugh Gundersen h... (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK Thanks Hugh. You are right. I will pick it up from the dealer. It is just that I thought if Ihad already paid close to 40K (yep! not 25K you guessed) for the motor, BMW could have easily topped it up gratis with the liter oil that it required. Car had gone in for a totally unrelated warranty work (to get the indicator fixed) and they discovered the oil consumption. Car has done less than 5K miles. Vijay |
I just bought a 730d - all 46K of it (3 month old ex-dealer demo 2500 miles) and
if it uses a litre of oil in 5K miles they are definitely getting the bloody
thing back.............. My 1995 740i at 198K miles burns no oil - absolutely
nothing - between changes.
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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In article <1174928883.013004.325900 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com>, Vijay says... Car has done less than 5K miles. Does the oil consumption on these diesels tend to *decrease* as the miles increase? |
As before - I bloody hope so as I said they are definitely getting mine back
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK
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