New BMW owner

#11

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quote:

In article <0qadnRxBdfXIpyjXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d (AT) posted (DOT) sasktel>,
Jim <nospam@wherever> wrote:
Has an inline 6 cylinder 3 l motor, Automatic
Transmission with the "shift with no clutch feature" in Drive...lol...

That's got me confused. What does it mean? Only car auto I know that
changes without a clutch is the infinitely variable
'rubber band' type. ;-)

BMW calls theirs SMG or Sequential Manual Gearbox. Maybe you've heard
of the Porsche Tiptronic?

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5016529_bmw-smg-transmission-work.html

#12

In article <Afvtm.13973$6f4.12990 (AT) newsfe08 (DOT) iad>,
tww1491 <twaugh5 (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

Err, which automatic transmission has a clutch pedal?

I guess the closest would be a pre-selector gear box -- but I that does
back to pre-WWII days and few cars I recall that were around in the
50s..

Two problems there - a preselector isn't an auto and the pedal changes the
gear.

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#13

In article <VMWdndNSudTBPyvXnZ2dnUVZ_hxi4p2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
D 2 <nope (AT) gmail86 (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <0qadnRxBdfXIpyjXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d (AT) posted (DOT) sasktel>,
Jim <nospam@wherever> wrote:
Has an inline 6 cylinder 3 l motor, Automatic Transmission with the
"shift with no clutch feature" in Drive...lol...

That's got me confused. What does it mean? Only car auto I know that
changes without a clutch is the infinitely variable 'rubber band'
type. ;-)

BMW calls theirs SMG or Sequential Manual Gearbox. Maybe you've heard
of the Porsche Tiptronic?

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5016529_bmw-smg-transmission-work.html

I'm perfectly aware of those - I was just wondering about the OP's wording
since all of these have a clutch. But no clutch pedal. So no different in
operation than any auto.

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Dave Plowman dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk London SW
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#14

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quote:

In article <VMWdndNSudTBPyvXnZ2dnUVZ_hxi4p2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
D 2 <nope (AT) gmail86 (DOT) com> wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <0qadnRxBdfXIpyjXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d (AT) posted (DOT) sasktel>,
Jim <nospam@wherever> wrote:
Has an inline 6 cylinder 3 l motor, Automatic Transmission with the
"shift with no clutch feature" in Drive...lol...
That's got me confused. What does it mean? Only car auto I know that
changes without a clutch is the infinitely variable 'rubber band'
type. ;-)

BMW calls theirs SMG or Sequential Manual Gearbox. Maybe you've heard
of the Porsche Tiptronic?

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5016529_bmw-smg-transmission-work.html

I'm perfectly aware of those - I was just wondering about the OP's wording
since all of these have a clutch. But no clutch pedal. So no different in
operation than any auto.

Are you are attacking the guy because he omitted the word "pedal"? A
CVT, as you referenced, does have an internal clutch so you are wrong there.

http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/auto/review5.php

D

#15

In article <zJSdnbkeFrf4XyvXnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
D <news (AT) gmail1 (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

I'm perfectly aware of those - I was just wondering about the OP's
wording since all of these have a clutch. But no clutch pedal. So no
different in operation than any auto.

Are you are attacking the guy because he omitted the word "pedal"?

Sigh. He called it an auto. No auto has a clutch pedal.

Quote:

A CVT, as you referenced, does have an internal clutch so you are wrong
there.

But only use for starting off - not gearchanges.

I was just curious as to what he meant.

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#16

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:

In article <kLKdnSxpN6W8lSvXnZ2dnUVZ8iudnZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:509da5fc5ddave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk...
In article <0qadnRxBdfXIpyjXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d (AT) posted (DOT) sasktel>,
Jim <nospam@wherever> wrote:
Has an inline 6 cylinder 3 l motor, Automatic
Transmission with the "shift with no clutch feature" in Drive...lol...

That's got me confused. What does it mean?

No clutch pedal in the footwell - Doh!

Err, which automatic transmission has a clutch pedal?

Err which manual transmission doesn't, which may be the answer to the
question as some manufacturer has made a box whereby as you take the manual
gear stick out of gear the clutch is disengaged - so no clutch pedal.

OTOH it may just mean a "flappy paddle" gearbox.

Quote:

Only car auto I know that
changes without a clutch is the infinitely variable
'rubber band' type. ;-)

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Dave Plowman dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk London SW
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#17

D wrote:

Quote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <VMWdndNSudTBPyvXnZ2dnUVZ_hxi4p2d (AT) giganews (DOT) com>,
D 2 <nope (AT) gmail86 (DOT) com> wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <0qadnRxBdfXIpyjXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d (AT) posted (DOT) sasktel>,
Jim <nospam@wherever> wrote:
Has an inline 6 cylinder 3 l motor, Automatic Transmission with the
"shift with no clutch feature" in Drive...lol...
That's got me confused. What does it mean? Only car auto I know that
changes without a clutch is the infinitely variable 'rubber band'
type. ;-)

BMW calls theirs SMG or Sequential Manual Gearbox. Maybe you've heard
of the Porsche Tiptronic?

http://www.ehow.com/how-does_5016529_bmw-smg-transmission-work.html

I'm perfectly aware of those - I was just wondering about the OP's
wording
since all of these have a clutch. But no clutch pedal. So no different in
operation than any auto.

Are you are attacking the guy because he omitted the word "pedal"? A
CVT, as you referenced, does have an internal clutch so you are wrong
there.

http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/auto/review5.php

D

And the article you referenced is a complete load of unmitigated
nonsense. It could hardly be more wrong.
JM

#18

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:15:39 -0700, "Floyd Rogers" <fbloogyuds (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

The only problem areas on BMWs (in general) are electronics and cooling
systems.

I know a bit about cooling from the "Old Z3" thread.

Could someone describe some of the electrical problems, particularly
those relating to BMW's from, say, 1996 to 2001?

Thx,
P

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#19

In article <256tb55ivgj63rgt0vqjp1klso7d08h0k5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Puddin' Man <puddingDOTman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:

The only problem areas on BMWs (in general) are electronics and cooling
systems.

I know a bit about cooling from the "Old Z3" thread.

Could someone describe some of the electrical problems, particularly
those relating to BMW's from, say, 1996 to 2001?

Common one is the heater blower final stage resistor. Aux fans too. Dunno
about any other common ones.

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#20

Dave Plowman (News) <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:

In article <256tb55ivgj63rgt0vqjp1klso7d08h0k5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Puddin' Man <puddingDOTman (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
The only problem areas on BMWs (in general) are electronics and cooling
systems.

I know a bit about cooling from the "Old Z3" thread.

Could someone describe some of the electrical problems, particularly
those relating to BMW's from, say, 1996 to 2001?

Common one is the heater blower final stage resistor. Aux fans too. Dunno
about any other common ones.

Stuff gets old. Connectors corrode and become intermittent. Fuse blocks
stop making contact. Switch contacts go bad.

Also, repeated thermal cycling makes solder joints fail, especially if
they weren't well-made. And electrolytic capacitors fail, although all
things considered, BMW has a lot fewer electrolytic failures than just about
anyone else. They seemed to use very reliable caps.

BMW has a tendency to add outrageous amounts of electrical stuff into cars,
and consequently they suffer an outrageous amount of electrical failures.
The more stuff you have, the more stuff there is to break.

I recommend pre-emptively packing all electrical connectors with dielectric
grease, which will prevent a lot of the issues. And when individual modules
fail, whether that be the ECU or the turn-signal flasher, first look for
cold solder joints before doing anything else.
--scott

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