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Default Re: Changing brake pads - 06-23-2003 , 05:17 PM







"adder" <adder1969 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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The old pads are thin, the new pads are thick. You will need to find an
appropriate tool to open the calipers so that the new pads will fit
where
the old pads used to be. I use a large screwdriver when doing this job
on my
Jeep, I don't see why the same method can't be used on my BMW. You want
to
be carefull to avoid damaging the rotor with nicks and gouges,
obviously.

I agree, I've never had to use a clamp to change pads - just take it
easy with a pry bar or whatever and you'll be fine. If that doesn't
work then chances are your calipers are seized.

Halfords pads are generally considered to not be very good - go with
BMW or Pagid for example.

The sensor is only on one side so how do you know that the other side
isn't already completely fried? Do youself a favour and have a look
at the pad thickness on both sides, front and rear, you'll probably
find there's loads on there. I'm pretty sure BMW would err on the
side of caution in something like this.

Also, it's not how long your journey is but how much you have to
brake.
There is no need to check the other side, replace the other side. Brakes
should ALWAYS be replaced in axle-sets, NEVER replace the brakes on one
wheel without replacing the brakes on the other wheel of the same axle. When
replacing the brakes on one axle, it is always a good idea to have a look at
the brakes on the other axle, this is mostly to save the trouble of working
on your car two weekends in a row.





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Default Re: Changing brake pads - 06-24-2003 , 04:04 AM






"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

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There is no need to check the other side, replace the other side. Brakes
should ALWAYS be replaced in axle-sets, NEVER replace the brakes on one
wheel without replacing the brakes on the other wheel of the same axle. When
replacing the brakes on one axle, it is always a good idea to have a look at
the brakes on the other axle, this is mostly to save the trouble of working
on your car two weekends in a row.
Maybe I wasn't clear - if the guy is going to drive on the used pads
rather than change them immediately I think it would be prudent to
visually inspect them all to see whether what he's doing is a good
idea or not.


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Default Re: Changing brake pads - 06-24-2003 , 04:02 PM




"adder" <adder1969 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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There is no need to check the other side, replace the other side. Brakes
should ALWAYS be replaced in axle-sets, NEVER replace the brakes on one
wheel without replacing the brakes on the other wheel of the same axle.
When
replacing the brakes on one axle, it is always a good idea to have a
look at
the brakes on the other axle, this is mostly to save the trouble of
working
on your car two weekends in a row.

Maybe I wasn't clear - if the guy is going to drive on the used pads
rather than change them immediately I think it would be prudent to
visually inspect them all to see whether what he's doing is a good
idea or not.
That is an excellent idea, sorry for second guessing you. The wear
indicators are only on one wheel, and the other wheel could be worn worse
than the one with the indicator. It didn't occur to me that this is what you
were saying the first time.




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Default Re: Changing brake pads - 06-24-2003 , 05:55 PM



In article <vfhbrp1jh77q29 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
That is an excellent idea, sorry for second guessing you. The wear
indicators are only on one wheel, and the other wheel could be worn worse
than the one with the indicator.
For some reason I've never found this on any car which has only the one
wear indicator per axle. Perhaps the wear indicator itself makes that pad
wear slightly quicker due to the (slightly) smaller lining area. Of
course, if you had a sticking caliper it might, but I mean under normal
circumstances.

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Dave Plowman dave.sound (AT) argonet (DOT) co.uk London SW 12
RIP Acorn


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Default Re: Changing brake pads - 06-25-2003 , 04:29 AM



Dave Plowman <dave.sound (AT) argonet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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In article <vfhbrp1jh77q29 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
That is an excellent idea, sorry for second guessing you. The wear
indicators are only on one wheel, and the other wheel could be worn worse
than the one with the indicator.

For some reason I've never found this on any car which has only the one
wear indicator per axle. Perhaps the wear indicator itself makes that pad
wear slightly quicker due to the (slightly) smaller lining area. Of
course, if you had a sticking caliper it might, but I mean under normal
circumstances.
It's worth a check though innit if you're going to drive around with
the warning light on.

....or maybe you just bought the car from "natural born loser"...


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Default Re: Changing brake pads - 06-25-2003 , 01:51 PM



Dave Plowman <dave.sound (AT) argonet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
In article <vfhbrp1jh77q29 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
That is an excellent idea, sorry for second guessing you. The wear
indicators are only on one wheel, and the other wheel could be worn worse
than the one with the indicator.

For some reason I've never found this on any car which has only the one
wear indicator per axle. Perhaps the wear indicator itself makes that pad
wear slightly quicker due to the (slightly) smaller lining area.
None I know of *have* a smaller lining area. All four pads from each
axle set have the cutout for the sensors. Only difference (on the
E28) is the 'piston clips' on two of each, and they don't affect wear;
only installation ease.
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Jeff Strickland
 
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Default Re: Changing brake pads - 06-25-2003 , 04:46 PM



The only reason for one side to wear faster than the other is a mechanical
binding or something along that line. In a properly working brake system,
the pads on both sides of the car should all wear at the same rate, even the
inside and outside pad on any given wheel should wear at the same rate if
there is no mechanical failure to cause a difference.




"Dave Plowman" <dave.sound (AT) argonet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
In article <vfhbrp1jh77q29 (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
That is an excellent idea, sorry for second guessing you. The wear
indicators are only on one wheel, and the other wheel could be worn
worse
than the one with the indicator.

For some reason I've never found this on any car which has only the one
wear indicator per axle. Perhaps the wear indicator itself makes that pad
wear slightly quicker due to the (slightly) smaller lining area. Of
course, if you had a sticking caliper it might, but I mean under normal
circumstances.

--
*Reality is the illusion that occurs due to the lack of alcohol *

Dave Plowman dave.sound (AT) argonet (DOT) co.uk London SW 12
RIP Acorn



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