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Default Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 05:22 AM






I am told by those reliable BMW dealer chaps that the only oil suitable
for this engine is special castrol 0-30 grade synthetic

Anyone know if Visco 7000 is in fact suitable?

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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 05:49 AM







"DCA" <dca860MAPS (AT) yahooMAPS (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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I am told by those reliable BMW dealer chaps that the only oil suitable
for this engine is special castrol 0-30 grade synthetic

That sounds like crap. BMW in league with Castrol to allow them to be sole
oil manufacturers for oil for this engine ? Oil makers have agreed [between
themselves and all manufacturers] standards for their oils.. You need to
check your handbook and it will tell you which specs your oil should meet.
For deisel engines this is often the lowest spec and therefore the cheapest
oil. There is no advantage to paying more money for oil of the same or
higher specification oil than is required.





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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 01:23 PM



RustYİ wrote:
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"DCA" <dca860MAPS (AT) yahooMAPS (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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I am told by those reliable BMW dealer chaps that the only oil suitable
for this engine is special castrol 0-30 grade synthetic


That sounds like crap. BMW in league with Castrol to allow them to be sole
oil manufacturers for oil for this engine ? Oil makers have agreed [between
themselves and all manufacturers] standards for their oils.. You need to
check your handbook and it will tell you which specs your oil should meet.
For deisel engines this is often the lowest spec and therefore the cheapest
oil. There is no advantage to paying more money for oil of the same or
higher specification oil than is required.



You're wrong on one thing - the suggestion diesel engines use crap oil.
Perhaps in the says diesels were solely for tractors - but now there is
more stress in the 'd' engine that in petrol.
Also, the turbo bearings require decent lube.
Apparently, the filtration system is that much better too to allow
longer life between servicing but the filters require a certain oil
viscosity.
This all said, I remain unconvinced need to spend £65 on oil alone (+
filter, + labour) for a lube change!


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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 02:51 PM



You will probably find that BMW would not have performed long term oil
testing on Visco 7000. There are many oil suppliers and they can not
possibly test every oil on the market.

Therefore, to be safe, go with the manufacturers recommended oil, otherwise
you could potentially invalidate your warranty in the event that you suffer
an engine failure, turbo failure, etc.

However, as Rusty said, if you look in the owners handbook, it should give
the minimum standard for oil that should be used. If you have proof from
the oil supplier that their oil is of an equivalent specification of higher,
then you should be OK.

Of course, if you are servicing the vehicle outside of the dealer network,
you will need to prove that you have used this oil in the engine at the
recommended service intervals and that it is the equivalent or greater than
the manufacturers minimum specification to be used in this engine.




"DCA" <dca860MAPS (AT) yahooMAPS (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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I am told by those reliable BMW dealer chaps that the only oil suitable for
this engine is special castrol 0-30 grade synthetic

Anyone know if Visco 7000 is in fact suitable?



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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 04:28 PM




"DCA" <dca860MAPS (AT) yahooMAPS (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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You're wrong on one thing - the suggestion diesel engines use crap oil.
Read it again. I never suggested that at all. Your dealer said only Castrol
is good enough - that sounds crap.




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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 05:27 PM




"RustYİ" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks> wrote

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"DCA" <dca860MAPS (AT) yahooMAPS (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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I am told by those reliable BMW dealer chaps that the only oil suitable
for this engine is special castrol 0-30 grade synthetic


That sounds like crap. BMW in league with Castrol to allow them to be
sole
oil manufacturers for oil for this engine ? Oil makers have agreed
[between
themselves and all manufacturers] standards for their oils.. You need to
check your handbook and it will tell you which specs your oil should meet.
For deisel engines this is often the lowest spec and therefore the
cheapest
oil. There is no advantage to paying more money for oil of the same or
higher specification oil than is required.


When I had mine I contacted BMW UK at Bracknell - techy dept and they said
any oil that
conformed to that spec or better would be fine - I seem to remember that a
Mobil 1 oil was OK

Nick




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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 05:30 PM



On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:28:52 GMT, "RustYİ" <No.Mail (AT) All (DOT) Thanks> wrote:

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"DCA" <dca860MAPS (AT) yahooMAPS (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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You're wrong on one thing - the suggestion diesel engines use crap oil.

Read it again. I never suggested that at all. Your dealer said only Castrol
is good enough - that sounds crap.

Aren't Castrol part of DuPont or Ashland Oil now????????


Sir Hugh of Bognor

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Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 05:35 PM



On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:51:16 +0100, "Ed" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:
You will probably find that BMW would not have performed long term oil
testing on Visco 7000. There are many oil suppliers and they can not
possibly test every oil on the market.

Therefore, to be safe, go with the manufacturers recommended oil, otherwise
you could potentially invalidate your warranty in the event that you suffer
an engine failure, turbo failure, etc.

However, as Rusty said, if you look in the owners handbook, it should give
the minimum standard for oil that should be used. If you have proof from
the oil supplier that their oil is of an equivalent specification of higher,
then you should be OK.

Of course, if you are servicing the vehicle outside of the dealer network,
you will need to prove that you have used this oil in the engine at the
recommended service intervals and that it is the equivalent or greater than
the manufacturers minimum specification to be used in this engine.


Recent EEC (Euroland) law changes have removed this stipulation about who and
where your car can or cannot be serviced however, it is wise to use genuine
parts for mechanical items bearing in mind that no car maker makes tyres (tires)
brakes, oil and air filters, light bulbs, paint, bearings (generally these are
all standard sizes and can, theoretically, be bought from any bearing outlet
such as SKF etc.

It might be prudent to get the servicing done by a main agent but at what point
does it become foolish - after 5 - 7 years I suggest.

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"DCA" <dca860MAPS (AT) yahooMAPS (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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I am told by those reliable BMW dealer chaps that the only oil suitable for
this engine is special castrol 0-30 grade synthetic

Anyone know if Visco 7000 is in fact suitable?


Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK


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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-28-2007 , 06:44 PM



In article <r5rl031dus5n6ssqdur92m65b9tjodmso6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
<hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
It might be prudent to get the servicing done by a main agent but at
what point does it become foolish - after 5 - 7 years I suggest.
My experience suggests Kwik Fit would make a more honest job of servicing
your BMW than any main dealer - and I've had three.

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Default Re: Suitable Oil for 3.0d (193BHP) - 03-29-2007 , 03:07 AM



On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:44:47 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk>
wrote:

Quote:
In article <r5rl031dus5n6ssqdur92m65b9tjodmso6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
It might be prudent to get the servicing done by a main agent but at
what point does it become foolish - after 5 - 7 years I suggest.

My experience suggests Kwik Fit would make a more honest job of servicing
your BMW than any main dealer - and I've had three.
I agree with you Dave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sir Hugh of Bognor

The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find it!

Hugh Gundersen
hsg (AT) h-gee (DOT) co.uk
Bognor Regis, W.Sussex, England, UK


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