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R. Mark Clayton
 
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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-22-2009 , 08:21 AM







"HGL" <HGL (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote

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My 2006 x3 with 30000 miles gets just 16mpg overall hiway and city. Its
epa
rating is 17 city and 23 hiway. What gives? There is nobody in the car
except little old me and I drive 10 miles each day on the hiway.

Short runs, stop start, hills, heavy right foot, AC on, 4WD = low mpg

Long runs, steady cruise, flat, light right foot = high mpg.




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Dave Plowman (News)
 
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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-22-2009 , 12:06 PM






In article <49c4f61d$0$32674$9b4e6d93 (AT) newsspool2 (DOT) arcor-online.net>,
Mario Andretti <drcms (AT) usenet (DOT) arcornews.de> wrote:
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BTW: The days of manual gearboxes seem to be over soon. (*) (**)
The new double clutch automatic gearboxes outperfom manuals in
performance AND in fuel economy.
There's no way it can better a well driven manual in economy. Equal,
possibly. But I doubt that since it has more moving parts and therefore
friction.

But many prefer a good manual because they enjoy the challenge of well
timed gearchanges and smooth clutch operation. In other words part of the
driving pleasure on a fine car. For those who prefer autos there's little
difference between traditional torque convertor types and DSG.

Personally I think the idea of a robotised synchromesh box flawed - no
matter how good the implementation.

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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-22-2009 , 07:21 PM



I totally agree :-)

But for the record my old 635CSi had the same mpg before and after it's
auto to manual conversion.

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But many prefer a good manual because they enjoy the challenge of well
timed gearchanges and smooth clutch operation. In other words part of the
driving pleasure on a fine car. For those who prefer autos there's little
difference between traditional torque convertor types and DSG.

Personally I think the idea of a robotised synchromesh box flawed - no
matter how good the implementation.

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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-23-2009 , 12:43 PM



On 2009-03-20 16:18:47 -0700, "Dori A Schmetterling" <nobody (AT) spam (DOT) co.uk> said:

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What's shocking about a manual 5-speed?

"In Europe we are not shocked by manual."
shocked that it gets 31 mpg on the highway.

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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-23-2009 , 04:29 PM



Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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Personally I think the idea of a robotised synchromesh box flawed - no
matter how good the implementation.
Seems like they should be able to accomplish the same thing, more
cheaply, with a "normal" auto and lockup in all gears, eh?



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Dori A Schmetterling
 
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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-23-2009 , 05:31 PM



What's shocking about that? (US gallons, presumably?)

DAS

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On 2009-03-20 16:18:47 -0700, "Dori A Schmetterling" <nobody (AT) spam (DOT) co.uk
said:

What's shocking about a manual 5-speed?

"In Europe we are not shocked by manual."

shocked that it gets 31 mpg on the highway.

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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-25-2009 , 04:52 PM



On 2009-03-23 15:31:53 -0700, "Dori A Schmetterling" <nobody (AT) spam (DOT) co.uk> said:

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What's shocking about that? (US gallons, presumably?)

DAS

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On 2009-03-20 16:18:47 -0700, "Dori A Schmetterling" <nobody (AT) spam (DOT) co.uk
said:

What's shocking about a manual 5-speed?

"In Europe we are not shocked by manual."

shocked that it gets 31 mpg on the highway.
Of course, Imperial gallons are for Wankers.

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Dori A Schmetterling
 
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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-26-2009 , 03:16 AM



By being rude you show you are just blathering. I asked what was shocking
about 31 mpg (and sought clarification about which gallon you meant).

DAS

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Of course, Imperial gallons are for Wankers.

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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-26-2009 , 11:56 AM



On 2009-03-26 01:16:13 -0700, "Dori A Schmetterling" <nobody (AT) spam (DOT) co.uk> said:

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By being rude you show you are just blathering. I asked what was shocking
about 31 mpg (and sought clarification about which gallon you meant).

DAS
Actually I found it rather rude to in two instances for two different
things you consider something as 'not shocking' with a nose in the air
haughty attitude. And further, the difference between imperial and us
gallons is rather insignificant compared to gallons/litres. So why did
you even bother asking.

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"In Europe we are not shocked by manual."
Good for you. Like we are here in the states?

and

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What's shocking about that? (US gallons, presumably?)
31 mpg for a 3 liter sports car is very good. I bet in the top 85th
percentile or better. Most are AMAZED at the mileage my car gets,
incorrectly thinking it must be a guzzler. You uppity Europeans might
not be impressed as 90% of you drive small displacement DIESELS.

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Dori A Schmetterling
 
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Default Re: X3 bad fuel economy - 03-26-2009 , 06:07 PM



Actually one of my cars has a 3.2 litre engine, the other a 2 l. Neither is
diesel; I do so few miles that it would not be economical to have oil
burners.

Yes, 31 miles per gallon (small) IS very good, sports car or not, for a
3-litre engine, but I could not understand what you meant by "shocking".
Try to remember this is written comms only.. Actually, the difference
between US and Imperial gallons is sufficient to make the 31 mpg sound even
better in Imperial.

And no, 90% of Europeans do not drive small-engined diesels. If North
Americans paid twice as much for their fuel they'd be reducing the size of
their engines too.

DAS

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On 2009-03-26 01:16:13 -0700, "Dori A Schmetterling" <nobody (AT) spam (DOT) co.uk
said:

By being rude you show you are just blathering. I asked what was
shocking
about 31 mpg (and sought clarification about which gallon you meant).

DAS

Actually I found it rather rude to in two instances for two different
things you consider something as 'not shocking' with a nose in the air
haughty attitude. And further, the difference between imperial and us
gallons is rather insignificant compared to gallons/litres. So why did you
even bother asking.

"In Europe we are not shocked by manual."

Good for you. Like we are here in the states?

and

What's shocking about that? (US gallons, presumably?)

31 mpg for a 3 liter sports car is very good. I bet in the top 85th
percentile or better. Most are AMAZED at the mileage my car gets,
incorrectly thinking it must be a guzzler. You uppity Europeans might not
be impressed as 90% of you drive small displacement DIESELS.

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