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Z4 automatic vs. stick
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Re: Z4 automatic vs. stick -
11-26-2006
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On the other point, if a clutch goes out it costs you $150 and a Saturday spent under the car |
simple and aren't cheap. The flywheel may also need replacing.
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whereas band clutch failure in an auto will cost you about 20 times that amount and will often result in scrapping the vehicle. Automatic transmissions have their place - it's just not in any of my cars. |
as you have with a clutch. Nor are the parts that expensive. I've done
several. Not a modern electronically controlled 5+ speed, though. Yet. ;-)
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Floyd Rogers <fbloogyuds (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: They were designed to last around 100K miles, and it was rare to get more than that from them. But what failed? I was specifically referring to the gear train rather than the various clutches. |
the sun/planetary holder.
FloydR
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They were designed to last around 100K miles, and it was rare to get more than that from them. But what failed? I was specifically referring to the gear train rather than the various clutches. The bushing/thrust washer that holds the planetary away from the sun/planetary holder. |
suffering that sort of failure.
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In article <12mmsjm4i00p93c (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, Floyd Rogers <fbloogyuds (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: They were designed to last around 100K miles, and it was rare to get more than that from them. But what failed? I was specifically referring to the gear train rather than the various clutches. The bushing/thrust washer that holds the planetary away from the sun/planetary holder. Poor design or materials, then. Most autos go to their grave without suffering that sort of failure. |
statement
that "most" live is obviously incorrect. I agree that it's poor design: a
ball
bearing carrier (rather than the cheaper roller bearing and thrust washer)
would last much longer. Doesn't change the facts, however.
FloydR
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"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote In article <12mmsjm4i00p93c (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com>, Floyd Rogers <fbloogyuds (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: They were designed to last around 100K miles, and it was rare to get more than that from them. But what failed? I was specifically referring to the gear train rather than the various clutches. The bushing/thrust washer that holds the planetary away from the sun/planetary holder. Poor design or materials, then. Most autos go to their grave without suffering that sort of failure. Since almost all GM autos from that era die with that failure, your statement that "most" live is obviously incorrect. |
here tended to be the larger ones fitted to Jaguar and Rolls Royce.
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I agree that it's poor design: a ball bearing carrier (rather than the cheaper roller bearing and thrust washer) would last much longer. Doesn't change the facts, however. |
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But I'm speaking from a UK perspective. The GM autos from that era used here tended to be the larger ones fitted to Jaguar and Rolls Royce. |
to bother to look, as I no longer care.) This is a global group, not UK
specific, so "facts" should be world-wide, not cherry picked from one
country.
Later.
FloydR
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But I'm speaking from a UK perspective. The GM autos from that era used here tended to be the larger ones fitted to Jaguar and Rolls Royce. When did we start speaking from a UK perspective? (I'm not going to bother to look, as I no longer care.) This is a global group, not UK specific, so "facts" should be world-wide, not cherry picked from one country. |
started talking about 'US GMC autos'. ;-)
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This is a global group, not UK specific, so "facts" should be world-wide, not cherry picked from one country. Later. FloydR |
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No. It's a US-perspective (or even LA-perspective) NG... |
from.
Wish it were the case with some others writing to car groups with 'uk' in
the title...
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In article <mrOdnc_0i_MiB_HYnZ2dnUVZ8sCdnZ2d (AT) pipex (DOT) net>, Dori A Schmetterling <ng (AT) nospam (DOT) co.uk> wrote: No. It's a US-perspective (or even LA-perspective) NG... Since it *is* a US originated group I try to make it plain where I hail from. Wish it were the case with some others writing to car groups with 'uk' in the title... |
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