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Re: New cars advertised with satellite radio
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Re: New cars advertised with satellite radio -
05-21-2008
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The tv commercials seem to be advertising that new cars come with satellite radio. I am not planning to buy a new car, but if I was, I would not want satellite radio. It eill be a cold day in hell before I pay for radio. I rarely listen to any radios. I have my cds and mp3s. I choose what I listen to, not some DJ. It would really piss me off if I had to pay for a sat. radio that I would never use. |
have free radio, cd players and MP3 players - use those.
Ed
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The tv commercials seem to be advertising that new cars come with satellite radio. I am not planning to buy a new car, but if I was, I would not want satellite radio. It eill be a cold day in hell before I pay for radio. I rarely listen to any radios. I have my cds and mp3s. I choose what I listen to, not some DJ. It would really piss me off if I had to pay for a sat. radio that I would never use. |
have free radio, cd players and MP3 players - use those.
Ed
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The tv commercials seem to be advertising that new cars come with satellite radio. I am not planning to buy a new car, but if I was, I would not want satellite radio. It eill be a cold day in hell before I pay for radio. I rarely listen to any radios. I have my cds and mp3s. I choose what I listen to, not some DJ. It would really piss me off if I had to pay for a sat. radio that I would never use. |
have free radio, cd players and MP3 players - use those.
Ed
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 07:28:53 -0400, "C. E. White" cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote: letterman (AT) invalid (DOT) com> wrote in message news  9o7345p40vla2s41sn2h6qoqi2li8hcto (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...The tv commercials seem to be advertising that new cars come with satellite radio. I am not planning to buy a new car, but if I was, I would not want satellite radio. It eill be a cold day in hell before I pay for radio. I rarely listen to any radios. I have my cds and mp3s. I choose what I listen to, not some DJ. It would really piss me off if I had to pay for a sat. radio that I would never use. OK, so don't pay for it. The cars with satellite radio installed also have free radio, cd players and MP3 players - use those. Ed Right, I wont pay for the service, but you forget that I am paying for the radio which they are forcing me to own when I buy the car. Not only is this cost added to the price of the car, but I will pay for this unused piece of crap, in extra gas consumption, for the life of the car. Every ounce of weight added to a car, causes more gas consumption. Ok, I know someone is going to state that a radio is lightweight, and will have little effect. I agree. An extra half pound of weight is pretty minimal, but over the life of the car, every ounce adds up. If it costs me an extra 5 gallons of gas over the life of the car, that's $20 wasted, plus how much is this thing adding to the cost of the car at purchase time? I'm sure it's at least $100, probably more like $300. My reason for bitching about this, is simple. The car companies are kissing ass to these satellite radio companies. They figure if the thing is stuck in a persons face, many people will subscribe to it, which they would not if they had to purchase and install the thing. It's the same as department stores that put candy bars and all sorts of little commonly used trinkets RIGHT BY the checkout counter, and make sure the lines are long and slow, thus forcing people to look at all this stuff. |
feature is optional. Don't order it. You don't sound like a high end
car kind of person, so I don't think this is something you should
spend much time worrying about. GM owns a chunk of XM, so they
definitely have a vested interest in pushing XM (at least till the
Sirius / XM Merger). Ford and Chrysler have invested in Sirius, so
they have a vested interest in pushing Sirius.
Do you also get upset over other items in cars that you don't like?
How about being forced to spend thousands for ABS and ESC that are
touted as safety devices despite no proof that they actually increase
safety. I'd rather not pay thousand for air bags that actually
decrease my safety since I wear my seat belt. How about Onstar? GM is
pushing that much harder than XM. How about the stupid 17" and 18"
wheels that actually reduce riding comfort, while doubling the cost of
replacement tires? It seems to me you are wasting your time worrying
about an optional feature you don't have to buy if you don't want to
when there are so many more expensive features being rammed down your
throat.
Ed
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 07:28:53 -0400, "C. E. White" cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote: letterman (AT) invalid (DOT) com> wrote in message news 9o7345p40vla2s41sn2h6qoqi2li8hcto (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...The tv commercials seem to be advertising that new cars come with satellite radio. I am not planning to buy a new car, but if I was, I would not want satellite radio. It eill be a cold day in hell before I pay for radio. I rarely listen to any radios. I have my cds and mp3s. I choose what I listen to, not some DJ. It would really piss me off if I had to pay for a sat. radio that I would never use. OK, so don't pay for it. The cars with satellite radio installed also have free radio, cd players and MP3 players - use those. Ed Right, I wont pay for the service, but you forget that I am paying for the radio which they are forcing me to own when I buy the car. Not only is this cost added to the price of the car, but I will pay for this unused piece of crap, in extra gas consumption, for the life of the car. Every ounce of weight added to a car, causes more gas consumption. Ok, I know someone is going to state that a radio is lightweight, and will have little effect. I agree. An extra half pound of weight is pretty minimal, but over the life of the car, every ounce adds up. If it costs me an extra 5 gallons of gas over the life of the car, that's $20 wasted, plus how much is this thing adding to the cost of the car at purchase time? I'm sure it's at least $100, probably more like $300. My reason for bitching about this, is simple. The car companies are kissing ass to these satellite radio companies. They figure if the thing is stuck in a persons face, many people will subscribe to it, which they would not if they had to purchase and install the thing. It's the same as department stores that put candy bars and all sorts of little commonly used trinkets RIGHT BY the checkout counter, and make sure the lines are long and slow, thus forcing people to look at all this stuff. |
feature is optional. Don't order it. You don't sound like a high end
car kind of person, so I don't think this is something you should
spend much time worrying about. GM owns a chunk of XM, so they
definitely have a vested interest in pushing XM (at least till the
Sirius / XM Merger). Ford and Chrysler have invested in Sirius, so
they have a vested interest in pushing Sirius.
Do you also get upset over other items in cars that you don't like?
How about being forced to spend thousands for ABS and ESC that are
touted as safety devices despite no proof that they actually increase
safety. I'd rather not pay thousand for air bags that actually
decrease my safety since I wear my seat belt. How about Onstar? GM is
pushing that much harder than XM. How about the stupid 17" and 18"
wheels that actually reduce riding comfort, while doubling the cost of
replacement tires? It seems to me you are wasting your time worrying
about an optional feature you don't have to buy if you don't want to
when there are so many more expensive features being rammed down your
throat.
Ed
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On Wed, 21 May 2008 07:28:53 -0400, "C. E. White" cewhite3 (AT) removemindspring (DOT) com> wrote: letterman (AT) invalid (DOT) com> wrote in message news 9o7345p40vla2s41sn2h6qoqi2li8hcto (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...The tv commercials seem to be advertising that new cars come with satellite radio. I am not planning to buy a new car, but if I was, I would not want satellite radio. It eill be a cold day in hell before I pay for radio. I rarely listen to any radios. I have my cds and mp3s. I choose what I listen to, not some DJ. It would really piss me off if I had to pay for a sat. radio that I would never use. OK, so don't pay for it. The cars with satellite radio installed also have free radio, cd players and MP3 players - use those. Ed Right, I wont pay for the service, but you forget that I am paying for the radio which they are forcing me to own when I buy the car. Not only is this cost added to the price of the car, but I will pay for this unused piece of crap, in extra gas consumption, for the life of the car. Every ounce of weight added to a car, causes more gas consumption. Ok, I know someone is going to state that a radio is lightweight, and will have little effect. I agree. An extra half pound of weight is pretty minimal, but over the life of the car, every ounce adds up. If it costs me an extra 5 gallons of gas over the life of the car, that's $20 wasted, plus how much is this thing adding to the cost of the car at purchase time? I'm sure it's at least $100, probably more like $300. My reason for bitching about this, is simple. The car companies are kissing ass to these satellite radio companies. They figure if the thing is stuck in a persons face, many people will subscribe to it, which they would not if they had to purchase and install the thing. It's the same as department stores that put candy bars and all sorts of little commonly used trinkets RIGHT BY the checkout counter, and make sure the lines are long and slow, thus forcing people to look at all this stuff. |
feature is optional. Don't order it. You don't sound like a high end
car kind of person, so I don't think this is something you should
spend much time worrying about. GM owns a chunk of XM, so they
definitely have a vested interest in pushing XM (at least till the
Sirius / XM Merger). Ford and Chrysler have invested in Sirius, so
they have a vested interest in pushing Sirius.
Do you also get upset over other items in cars that you don't like?
How about being forced to spend thousands for ABS and ESC that are
touted as safety devices despite no proof that they actually increase
safety. I'd rather not pay thousand for air bags that actually
decrease my safety since I wear my seat belt. How about Onstar? GM is
pushing that much harder than XM. How about the stupid 17" and 18"
wheels that actually reduce riding comfort, while doubling the cost of
replacement tires? It seems to me you are wasting your time worrying
about an optional feature you don't have to buy if you don't want to
when there are so many more expensive features being rammed down your
throat.
Ed
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