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Why Toyota is kicking GM's ass
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Re: Why Toyota is kicking GM's ass -
05-21-2007
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message news:U9-dnWKW2IRaIczbnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d (AT) ptd (DOT) net... If indeed GM was not taking care of its customer, as you believer, why is GM outselling every other manufacturer, domestic and import in the US? Did you fail Economics 101, or just skip that class? LOL mike It does not matter how many cars you sell if you lose money every day you are in business. They have to solve that problem first. |
stated that no one wants GM's cars. Regardless of the fact GM looses money,
the fact they sell more then any other manufacture says more people want GM
cars. However, I also agree with you Edwin. Money is a big issue, but like
another poster said, I doubt GM is as hard done by as they claim.
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In alt.autos.toyota Edwin Pawlowski <esp (AT) snet (DOT) net> wrote: "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2 (AT) mailcity (DOT) com> wrote in message If indeed GM was not taking care of its customer, as you believer, why is GM outselling every other manufacturer, domestic and import in the US? Did you fail Economics 101, or just skip that class? LOL It does not matter how many cars you sell if you lose money every day you are in business. They have to solve that problem first. But there is losing money, and there is losing money. Accountants, with different agendas, have different ways of saying things. If GM was in any real danger the US government would step in. |
There are plenty of companies making cars in America, like Toyota and Honda.
Jeff
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I don't usually agree with Hunter, but I do agree with his response. The OP stated that no one wants GM's cars. Regardless of the fact GM looses money, the fact they sell more then any other manufacture says more people want GM cars. However, I also agree with you Edwin. Money is a big issue, but like another poster said, I doubt GM is as hard done by as they claim. |
Chrysler have the same problems. Autoworkers just can continue to make the
same money than have in the past, especially the non-skilled workers.
People certainly deserve a good wage but too many people are getting paid to
do little or nothing in a declining market. Sort of like a Ponzi scheme gone
bad.
Not to mention all the outside shops that would be in serious trouble of the
automakers shut down. And the towns that rely on their tax dollars.
My guess is that they will turn around eventually. I'd like to go back to
buying good GM cars again.
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"80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message I don't usually agree with Hunter, but I do agree with his response. The OP stated that no one wants GM's cars. Regardless of the fact GM looses money, the fact they sell more then any other manufacture says more people want GM cars. However, I also agree with you Edwin. Money is a big issue, but like another poster said, I doubt GM is as hard done by as they claim. Contract talks will be interesting. It is not just GM, of course, Ford and Chrysler have the same problems. Autoworkers just can continue to make the same money than have in the past, especially the non-skilled workers. People certainly deserve a good wage but too many people are getting paid to do little or nothing in a declining market. Sort of like a Ponzi scheme gone bad. |
from workers, telling them they don't make enough money, and yet they just
gave themselves huge bonus's. What did they do to deserve those millions?
Not much, if you ask me.
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Not to mention all the outside shops that would be in serious trouble of the automakers shut down. And the towns that rely on their tax dollars. |
worker, there are something like 25 other people employed through various
companies.
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My guess is that they will turn around eventually. I'd like to go back to buying good GM cars again. |
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What really pisses me off is that GM exces are going to demand pay decreases from workers, telling them they don't make enough money, and yet they just gave themselves huge bonus's. What did they do to deserve those millions? Not much, if you ask me. |
a buck (plus expenses, I'm sure) until Chrysler got back on track. If
nothing else, it looked good in the newspaper. GM should do that also, at
least until the ink is dry on the new contract.
I know my bonus, as well as the company owners, fluctuates with how well
business is every year. Seems fair to me. During the lean times we all
went with no increase for three years. During that time though, I got a
check every month so no complaints from any of us.
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"80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message What really pisses me off is that GM exces are going to demand pay decreases from workers, telling them they don't make enough money, and yet they just gave themselves huge bonus's. What did they do to deserve those millions? Not much, if you ask me. That will be a big point in negotiations also. At least Iacocca worked for a buck (plus expenses, I'm sure) until Chrysler got back on track. If nothing else, it looked good in the newspaper. GM should do that also, at least until the ink is dry on the new contract. I know my bonus, as well as the company owners, fluctuates with how well business is every year. Seems fair to me. During the lean times we all went with no increase for three years. During that time though, I got a check every month so no complaints from any of us. |
exec's expect the workers to take a pay cut, while giving themselves
millions. Plus, IMHO, regardless of the size of the company, a bonus
shouldn't be able to put a down-payment on an island.
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"80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message What really pisses me off is that GM exces are going to demand pay decreases from workers, telling them they don't make enough money, and yet they just gave themselves huge bonus's. What did they do to deserve those millions? Not much, if you ask me. That will be a big point in negotiations also. At least Iacocca worked for a buck (plus expenses, I'm sure) until Chrysler got back on track. If nothing else, it looked good in the newspaper. GM should do that also, at least until the ink is dry on the new contract. I know my bonus, as well as the company owners, fluctuates with how well business is every year. Seems fair to me. During the lean times we all went with no increase for three years. During that time though, I got a check every month so no complaints from any of us. |
top seem to get big bonuses no matter what the company does. I thought part
of being an Adult (instead of A Dolt) was being responsible for what you
did, and taking the blame when you did badly. Way too many bosses pass the
blame down to a subordinate, but soak up the glory when something good
happens.
Charles of Schaumburg
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