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Why Toyota is kicking GM's ass
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Re: Why Toyota is kicking GM's ass -
05-19-2007
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BZZZZT! Wrong! We bought our first Toyota in 1972, before the oil 'crisis'. |
I remember the big deal over a 5 speed transmission!
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They may have come for the economy, but they stayed for the build. Detroit hadn't changed that much since we bought our 62 Corvair that had to be refloored twice. That had to have the turn signal repaired at least 3 times. That had to have the valves ground twice. We had looked at 1973 American cars. Figured that in order to get one big enough for the family, we'd have to get one of those PLUG-UGLY 4 door Malibus. The paint wassn't any better than the Corvair. Two years later we spotted this Toyota on the used car lot. We fit a lot better in the 72 Carina than the 73 Malibu. The fit, finish, and paint quality were light years better. That's why Toyota is kicking GM's butt. |
the family into the Malibu, but you could nicely fit it into the Toyota?
The Toyotas of the early 70's were reliable basic transportation, but to say
that the fit and finish and the paint quality were better than anything from
Detroit at the time is more than just a stretch, it's a complete
misrepresentation. One might even consider it to be a distorted
recollection of the old days.
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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net
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The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. |
day of infamy in 1941?
We gave them a heck of a defeat back then. It wasnt brag, just fact.
If we want to win economically, it will again have to be no brag, just fact.
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| Wow! That's a atretch! The Gran Torino was a good sized car! |
We had a Corolla wagon with 3 kids. All of us learned to drive in the
Corolla, too. I can't believe the clutch survived.
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 05:20:58 -0400, 80 Knight wrote: "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958DieSpammersDie (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:f2l5jp.cc.1 (AT) news (DOT) evilcabal.org... "BoobooBear" <Boo (AT) yahaa (DOT) com> wrote in message news:464e4e1c$0$1258$822641b3 (AT) news (DOT) adtechcomputers.com... | | "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow (AT) alltel (DOT) net> wrote in message | news:554b$464d9ac6$471fb881$26172 (AT) ALLTEL (DOT) NET... | | > <HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix> wrote in message | > news:gZ53i.21859$JZ3.12791 (AT) newssvr13 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... | | >> "George Orwell" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote | >> in message | >> > Toyota enjoys much lower labor costs in the United States and benefits | >> > from an undervalued yen for cars made in Japan. In the United States, | >> > this comes to about $2,500 per vehicle. | | | | >> Blah, blah, blah... | >> Toyota has the perception of being higher quality, and we pay | >> higher | > prices | >> for it. | >> They service what they sell, build a hell of a good car,and stand behind | > it. | | >> GM lost the war. | | > GM is losing the battle, but the war will never be over. Like everything | > else in life, this battleground will have continued ups and downs forever. | | > -- | | > -Mike- | > mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net | | | GM is currently planning some B-17 sorties to bomb the Toyota | facturies in | japan this summer. | | | Bombing the Japanese didn't stop us from buying their cars. The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. Sure it does. But they paid quite a penalty, didn't they? And now they are an ally. |
trying to tell me VW is an American car! I'd like to know what drugs
they're taking, so I can STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM THEM.
Charles of Schaumburg
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"Wickeddoll" .. "BoobooBear"... | | "Mike Marlow"... | | > <HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix>... | | >> "George Orwell" | >> in message | >> > Toyota enjoys much lower labor costs in the United States and benefits | >> > from an undervalued yen for cars made in Japan. In the United States, | >> > this comes to about $2,500 per vehicle. | | | | >> Blah, blah, blah... | >> Toyota has the perception of being higher quality, and we pay | >> higher | > prices | >> for it. | >> They service what they sell, build a hell of a good car,and stand behind | > it. | | >> GM lost the war. | | > GM is losing the battle, but the war will never be over. Like everything | > else in life, this battleground will have continued ups and downs forever. | | > -- | | > -Mike- | > mmarlowREMOVE (AT) alltel (DOT) net | | | GM is currently planning some B-17 sorties to bomb the Toyota | facturies in | japan this summer. | | | Bombing the Japanese didn't stop us from buying their cars. The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. |
veteran, and I remember Pearl Harbor very well, thank you. Nice to see you
again, BTW.
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| Sure it does. But they paid quite a penalty, didn't they? And now they are an ally. |
(either cold or "hot" wars)?
Ridiculous.
Natalie
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 10:07:43 +0000, Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2007 02:00:16 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote: BZZZZT! Wrong! We bought our first Toyota in 1972, before the oil 'crisis'. My parents traded a Ford Gran Torino for a Corolla. I remember the big deal over a 5 speed transmission! Wow! That's a atretch! The Gran Torino was a good sized car! I can beat that. I had a friend whose parents traded in a 1971 Cadillac |
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 20:45:24 -0400, BoobooBear wrote: I don't think "kicking GM's ass" is the correct term these days. Back in '75 - when I was in first grade - GM have strong competition from Hyundai, Kia, Mitsubishi, Honda, Saab, Mercedes, BMW, and Jaguar. Heck, everytime I turn around I see someone driving a BMW 500-series or a Back in 1975 the Hyundai, Kia wasnt even around to be competitive in the US. The Mitsubishi may have just began to start to show up but they were not any real competition. The only japanese cars beginning to hit our shores back then was Toyota, Honda and Datsun/ Nissan. The only reason people began to look at those cars was because of the gas crunch and no other reason. BZZZZT! Wrong! We bought our first Toyota in 1972, before the oil 'crisis'. Any more guesses? We traded a...NOVA for it! Because the Nova had gotten bigger over the years and my Mom wasn't comfortable driving it. And, again, the Corona had a lot more features and was $1,000 less... Like I said they were just starting to show up. How many dealers were there |
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:48:09 +0000, Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:41:19 GMT, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote: Wow! That's a atretch! The Gran Torino was a good sized car! It was a 302 powered boat. <G We had a Corolla wagon with 3 kids. All of us learned to drive in the Corolla, too. I can't believe the clutch survived. My GTS has 259,000 on it, taught two wives to drive 5-speed with it, and it STILL has the original clutch! And, I downshift to boot! Yep it is amazing what people were buying to save gas back then. |
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"80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. Are you talking about the successful economics of modern day Japan, or their day of infamy in 1941? We gave them a heck of a defeat back then. It wasnt brag, just fact. If we want to win economically, it will again have to be no brag, just fact. Well it looks like another war is on, all traitors will be rewarded with a |
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