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Re: Why Toyota is kicking GM's ass -
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"Bonehenge (B A R R Y)" <DwightSchrute (AT) DunderMifflin (DOT) com> wrote in message news:9rb0535rnalab9q69d5bte7ssjdvuc3c45 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... | On Sun, 20 May 2007 00:45:03 -0400, "Wickeddoll" | <wickeddoll1958DieSpammersDie (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: | >| | >Nope - I'd love to drive an American car again. I really would like to see | >them rebound. | | | SAAAAAAAAAME HERE! | | I would have loved to save money and purchased a Ranger, S-10, or | Colorado over my current and previous Tacomas and "Pickups". | | Unfortunately, there's a satisfaction and quality gap much wider than | the price difference. My current '05 Tacoma is as close to a perfect | vehicle as I've ever had. The sad part is that I never even | considered a Dakota 'till after the fact, because I forgot they even | existed! I checked one out, and I didn't miss anything. I'd look at domestic first, if I were in the marked for a largish vehicle. Most people I know with them seem very happy with everything except gas mileage. But I wouldn't rule out Toyotas either. | | I still own a Wrangler Sport (which is actually total crap, | quality-wise), because there is nothing else like the only "real" | Jeep. One of the most important saving graces for the Wrangler is the | huge aftermarket. As parts fall off, you can get much better, cheaper | aftermarket replacements. Don't get me going on the 4 door new | version... Power locks and windows, on a JEEP? = 8^( "As parts fall off"? LOL. That's pretty sad. I always liked the look of the old Jeep, and it's amazing how many of them are still on the road. Natalie |
CJ-2's and 3's. Those things you couldn't kill.
Charles of Schaumburg
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:44:00 -0400, BoobooBear wrote: HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix> wrote in message news:quC3i.21236$YL5.7526 (AT) newssvr29 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... "80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. Are you talking about the successful economics of modern day Japan, or their day of infamy in 1941? We gave them a heck of a defeat back then. It wasnt brag, just fact. If we want to win economically, it will again have to be no brag, just fact. Well it looks like another war is on, all traitors will be rewarded with a brand new Toyota. Where do I sign up? |
The Brainwashed over in the GM forum don't get it. Why people bought Model
T's in the early 1920's, VW's in the 60's and started buying Toyotas in the
1970's is something GM and its cohorts will never understand. We celebrate
the absence of fancy options. WE DON'T WANT THEM. We want a basic
machine that will get up, go and keep going.
GM has always had a structure where you often had to get certain options
packages to get stuff you wanted, but you got stuff you didn't want, too.
For instance, when I bought my S-10 in 1995, I wanted a 5 speed, so I had to
get the 2.2 engine and the short cab. Had I wanted the 4.3 engine, I would
have had to get the longer cab and an auto tranny, which added so much
weight that the performance was actually worse than my little 2.2. And in
order to get the 4.3 that actually had any get up and go, I would have had
to pay over 20,000, when the base S-10 with the 5 speed actually cost just
over 10,000. We had similar problems trying to buy a new Chevy in 1973, so
GM is still practicing its same old tricks.
Charles of Schaumburg
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:44:00 -0400, BoobooBear wrote: HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix> wrote in message news:quC3i.21236$YL5.7526 (AT) newssvr29 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... "80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. Are you talking about the successful economics of modern day Japan, or their day of infamy in 1941? We gave them a heck of a defeat back then. It wasnt brag, just fact. If we want to win economically, it will again have to be no brag, just fact. Well it looks like another war is on, all traitors will be rewarded with a brand new Toyota. Where do I sign up? You already did. |
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"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:BRY3i.4454$ns.537 (AT) trndny05 (DOT) .. On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:44:00 -0400, BoobooBear wrote: HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix> wrote in message news:quC3i.21236$YL5.7526 (AT) newssvr29 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... "80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. Are you talking about the successful economics of modern day Japan, or their day of infamy in 1941? We gave them a heck of a defeat back then. It wasnt brag, just fact. If we want to win economically, it will again have to be no brag, just fact. Well it looks like another war is on, all traitors will be rewarded with a brand new Toyota. Where do I sign up? You already did. |
Cathy
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Studebaker made better cars then Chevrolet, fat lot of good it did them... Jeff DeWitt |
Well, as of right now, Toyota/Lexus is kicking everyones ass and making
billions. People want cars that last now. They want a car they can hand down
to their son or daughter when they purchase a new one. They want something
stylish, classy, affordable. Something that gets decent gas mileage.
Something that, if it breaks, it is easier and cheaper to fix.
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Once again I say BS! Nobody will 'give you your car back' after you traded it. All taxes, transfer fees, commissions. insurance coverage costs etc., must be paid on every transaction or the dealership is committing fraud. mike "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:VB93i.7553$vu2.5005 (AT) trndny01 (DOT) .. On Thu, 17 May 2007 18:43:55 -0400, Mike Hunter wrote: BS! Nobody will 'give you your car back' after you traded it. mike In 50 years, we bought over a dozen cars from them. Yeah, they gave me the car back. And then sold me, personally 4 more. "Vash The Stampede" <Trigun (AT) 2AM (DOT) cn> wrote in message news:Ey43i.6698$R97.4409 (AT) trndny03 (DOT) .. On Thu, 17 May 2007 20:21:33 +0000, 6forPizza wrote: I kept the Nova for 5 or six weeks, and when gas hit $0.75 a gallon, I traded it back! Luckily, they went for it and gave me my Corolla back! A good dealer will take a hit for a good customer. There just isn't |
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"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno (AT) AE86 (DOT) gts> wrote in message news:BRY3i.4454$ns.537 (AT) trndny05 (DOT) .. On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:44:00 -0400, BoobooBear wrote: HLS (AT) nospam (DOT) nix> wrote in message news:quC3i.21236$YL5.7526 (AT) newssvr29 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... "80 Knight" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message The Japanese attacking us apparently doesn't mean much to some either. Are you talking about the successful economics of modern day Japan, or their day of infamy in 1941? We gave them a heck of a defeat back then. It wasnt brag, just fact. If we want to win economically, it will again have to be no brag, just fact. Well it looks like another war is on, all traitors will be rewarded with a brand new Toyota. Where do I sign up? Really. Bet Mr 80Knight owned a VW Beetle in his past, too. |
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The Brainwashed over in the GM forum don't get it. Why people bought Model T's in the early 1920's, VW's in the 60's and started buying Toyotas in the 1970's is something GM and its cohorts will never understand. We celebrate the absence of fancy options. WE DON'T WANT THEM. We want a basic machine that will get up, go and keep going. |
I can understand you having problems trying to figure out such complex
options as power windows and locks. Don't get those power mirrors, they are
a real bitch to work!
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GM has always had a structure where you often had to get certain options packages to get stuff you wanted, but you got stuff you didn't want, too. For instance, when I bought my S-10 in 1995, I wanted a 5 speed, so I had to get the 2.2 engine and the short cab. Had I wanted the 4.3 engine, I would have had to get the longer cab and an auto tranny, which added so much weight that the performance was actually worse than my little 2.2. And in order to get the 4.3 that actually had any get up and go, I would have had to pay over 20,000, when the base S-10 with the 5 speed actually cost just over 10,000. We had similar problems trying to buy a new Chevy in 1973, so GM is still practicing its same old tricks. |
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 02:58:43 -0400, 80 Knight wrote: | 'better'? To some people, just having the word "Toyota" on the front grill | means the car is wonderful, regardless of how often it breaks down. | Nope - I'd love to drive an American car again. I really would like to see them rebound. Me too, Natalie, me too. Sorry, guys. I am more than happy with my Toyotas. After 10-12 of them, it's tough to even consider anything else. Even the $200 beaters have been bulletproof, with 'repairs' cheap and easy. |
would GM going under help you to own a Toyota?
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"80 Knight" ... |
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| > Okies! How are ya? | | I'm doing alright these days, thanks for asking.  How have you been| doing? | | Pretty good. The kids are really different from our old NG days. Craig will be 20 in November, Katie will be 17 in July. Time flies, huh? |
April...Hard to believe, very hard. They grow up so fast. She keeps saying
"I'm going to stop aging when I hit 25", and we all look at her and remind
her she's only 14 and shouldn't be thinking of such things! But, she's a
damned good kid, and I couldn't be prouder of her.
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I haven't been on the geek NGs in quite some time. The trolls took over, and I lost interest in talking about the shows, so... |
the BSG NG every once in a while, just to see who's bitching about what, but
thats about it.
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I just hang out on this NG and watch the car talk in-between the political rhetoric LOL |
but, like any group, the Trolls show up every now and then. But, that's
Usenet for ya!
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Natalie |
was, so feel free to drop me a line anytime :-)
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George Orwell wrote: post-gazette.com http://snipurl.com/1l0sj How did Toyota manage to squeeze the U.S. passenger-car market from the U.S. giant, General Motors? Toyota does not just make cars. Toyota investigates what customers do want and need. Toyota then make cars to fulfill those wants and needs. Toyota makes sure the whole chain is reasonably happy. Toyota keeps in touch with the customers afterwards through the service and makes sure everything done with or to the car is registered throughout the life of the car. Toyota organizes occasional events for their customers like washing all toyotas for free, going on trips together. |
street, and I hear they are working on a way to feed all the poor.....Get a
grip, Gosi.
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