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Default 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-22-2007 , 01:00 PM






hi there, am looking through my fiesta options and trying to figure
out why ford would offer 2 engines with similar horsepower: 1.25 16v
at 75HP and 1.4 16v at 80HP (link a) .max speed of 1.4 is only 2mph
more than 1.25 but mpg for extra urban is 15% worse.

playing with the ford configurator(link b) i see you have to pay 300
stg more to get the 1.4 (fiesta also comes with 1.6 or 2.0litre if you
splurge)

does the 1.4 have any subtle advantages over the 1.25? i am mainly
interested in fuel economy but i dont want my car to stall when i turn
on the a/c

thanks!


a) http://www.busseys.co.uk/brochures/fiesta_gbr.pdf

b) http://www2.fordconnection.com/fordc...opup.do?vc=00K


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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-22-2007 , 07:42 PM






On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:00:53 +0100, <fordi2003 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
hi there, am looking through my fiesta options and trying to figure
out why ford would offer 2 engines with similar horsepower: 1.25 16v
at 75HP and 1.4 16v at 80HP (link a) .max speed of 1.4 is only 2mph
more than 1.25 but mpg for extra urban is 15% worse.

playing with the ford configurator(link b) i see you have to pay 300
stg more to get the 1.4 (fiesta also comes with 1.6 or 2.0litre if you
splurge)

does the 1.4 have any subtle advantages over the 1.25? i am mainly
interested in fuel economy but i dont want my car to stall when i turn
on the a/c

thanks!


a) http://www.busseys.co.uk/brochures/fiesta_gbr.pdf

b)
http://www2.fordconnection.com/fordc...opup.do?vc=00K


Go for a test drive.


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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-23-2007 , 04:20 AM



fordi2003 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
hi there, am looking through my fiesta options and trying to figure
out why ford would offer 2 engines with similar horsepower: 1.25 16v
at 75HP and 1.4 16v at 80HP (link a) .max speed of 1.4 is only 2mph
more than 1.25 but mpg for extra urban is 15% worse.

playing with the ford configurator(link b) i see you have to pay 300
stg more to get the 1.4 (fiesta also comes with 1.6 or 2.0litre if you
splurge)

does the 1.4 have any subtle advantages over the 1.25? i am mainly
interested in fuel economy but i dont want my car to stall when i turn
on the a/c

thanks!


a) http://www.busseys.co.uk/brochures/fiesta_gbr.pdf

b)

http://www2.fordconnection.com/fordc...opup.do?vc=00K

Everyday driving is much more about the torque curve than absolute power.

Try to get some road test data on things like 50-70mph acceleration in top
gear; that's much more the sort of thing you will be doing every day.

FWIW, a colleague who was not any sort of car enthusiast bought a 1.25
Fiesta new. He hated how frantic it was. After a year, he part-exed it (at
a huge financial loss) for a 1.4 which he was very happy with.

YMMV!

Chris

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Tony Brett
 
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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-23-2007 , 05:50 AM



Chris Whelan wrote:

Quote:
FWIW, a colleague who was not any sort of car enthusiast bought a 1.25
Fiesta new. He hated how frantic it was. After a year, he part-exed it (at
a huge financial loss) for a 1.4 which he was very happy with.
Frantic is a good word for the 1.25l Fiesta. I quite like it that way
but I know what he means.

Tony


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Conor
 
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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-23-2007 , 09:52 AM



In article <1177261253.952029.53860 (AT) y5g2000hsa (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
says...
Quote:
hi there, am looking through my fiesta options and trying to figure
out why ford would offer 2 engines with similar horsepower: 1.25 16v
at 75HP and 1.4 16v at 80HP (link a) .max speed of 1.4 is only 2mph
more than 1.25 but mpg for extra urban is 15% worse.

playing with the ford configurator(link b) i see you have to pay 300
stg more to get the 1.4 (fiesta also comes with 1.6 or 2.0litre if you
splurge)

does the 1.4 have any subtle advantages over the 1.25? i am mainly
interested in fuel economy but i dont want my car to stall when i turn
on the a/c

Torque.


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Iridium
 
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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-23-2007 , 11:02 AM



<fordi2003 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
hi there, am looking through my fiesta options and trying to figure
out why ford would offer 2 engines with similar horsepower: 1.25 16v
at 75HP and 1.4 16v at 80HP (link a) .max speed of 1.4 is only 2mph
more than 1.25 but mpg for extra urban is 15% worse.

playing with the ford configurator(link b) i see you have to pay 300
stg more to get the 1.4 (fiesta also comes with 1.6 or 2.0litre if you
splurge)

does the 1.4 have any subtle advantages over the 1.25? i am mainly
interested in fuel economy but i dont want my car to stall when i turn
on the a/c

thanks!


a) http://www.busseys.co.uk/brochures/fiesta_gbr.pdf

b)
http://www2.fordconnection.com/fordc...opup.do?vc=00K

If economy is your thing,

http://www.carquake.co.uk/default.as...BodyType=27832

This place appears to knock out the lower spec diesels for the same sort of
price...

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Morse
 
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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-23-2007 , 08:43 PM



fordi2003 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

Quote:
hi there, am looking through my fiesta options and trying to figure
out why ford would offer 2 engines with similar horsepower: 1.25 16v
at 75HP and 1.4 16v at 80HP (link a) .max speed of 1.4 is only 2mph
more than 1.25 but mpg for extra urban is 15% worse.

playing with the ford configurator(link b) i see you have to pay 300
stg more to get the 1.4 (fiesta also comes with 1.6 or 2.0litre if you
splurge)

does the 1.4 have any subtle advantages over the 1.25? i am mainly
interested in fuel economy but i dont want my car to stall when i turn
on the a/c

thanks!


a) http://www.busseys.co.uk/brochures/fiesta_gbr.pdf

b)

If you haven't already, I'd advise you to test drive the 1.4 TDCi before
going for a petrol- great fun to drive and much more economical than either
of those petrols. Cheap road tax as well. I had a 1.25 as a courtesy car
when my Focus was in for repairs, and it was quite thirsty for a small
petrol (barely better than my 1.6 Focus) and dull to drive compared to the
1.4 TDCi.

I think you'll be surprised at how strongly that little 1.4 turbo diesel can
pull, and they get 50-odd mpg when driven hard, up to 70-ish on a long run
if you're light footed. Ignore the spec on the TDCi, it really doesn't do
the engine justice at all.

Morse


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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-24-2007 , 08:43 AM




"Tony Brett" <tony.brett (AT) oucs (DOT) ox.ac.uk> wrote

Quote:
Chris Whelan wrote:

FWIW, a colleague who was not any sort of car enthusiast bought a 1.25
Fiesta new. He hated how frantic it was. After a year, he part-exed it
(at
a huge financial loss) for a 1.4 which he was very happy with.

Frantic is a good word for the 1.25l Fiesta. I quite like it that way but
I know what he means.

Tony
the 1.2 is supposed to be a sweeter revving unit.

80bhp for the 1.4 is quite poor when other makes 1.2's produce better
power/economy.....




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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-27-2007 , 03:20 AM



"Morse" <morse (AT) 248rpa (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
fordi2003 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com wrote:

hi there, am looking through my fiesta options and trying to figure
out why ford would offer 2 engines with similar horsepower: 1.25 16v
at 75HP and 1.4 16v at 80HP (link a) .max speed of 1.4 is only 2mph
more than 1.25 but mpg for extra urban is 15% worse.

playing with the ford configurator(link b) i see you have to pay 300
stg more to get the 1.4 (fiesta also comes with 1.6 or 2.0litre if you
splurge)

does the 1.4 have any subtle advantages over the 1.25? i am mainly
interested in fuel economy but i dont want my car to stall when i turn
on the a/c

thanks!


a) http://www.busseys.co.uk/brochures/fiesta_gbr.pdf

b)

If you haven't already, I'd advise you to test drive the 1.4 TDCi before
going for a petrol- great fun to drive and much more economical than
either
of those petrols. Cheap road tax as well. I had a 1.25 as a courtesy car
when my Focus was in for repairs, and it was quite thirsty for a small
petrol (barely better than my 1.6 Focus) and dull to drive compared to the
1.4 TDCi.
To be fair, though, the Focus *is* economical for what it is, whereas the
Fiesta 1.25 is merely adequate.

Quote:
I think you'll be surprised at how strongly that little 1.4 turbo diesel
can
pull, and they get 50-odd mpg when driven hard, up to 70-ish on a long run
if you're light footed. Ignore the spec on the TDCi, it really doesn't do
the engine justice at all.

Absolutely, a much better engine option in my opinion.

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Default Re: 1.25 or 1.4 duratec? - 04-27-2007 , 03:27 AM



<fordi2003 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
hi there, am looking through my fiesta options and trying to figure
out why ford would offer 2 engines with similar horsepower: 1.25 16v
at 75HP and 1.4 16v at 80HP (link a) .max speed of 1.4 is only 2mph
more than 1.25 but mpg for extra urban is 15% worse.

playing with the ford configurator(link b) i see you have to pay 300
stg more to get the 1.4 (fiesta also comes with 1.6 or 2.0litre if you
splurge)

does the 1.4 have any subtle advantages over the 1.25?
Yes. As others have said, it has more torque spread over a wider power
band.

Personally, I found the 1.25 disappointing after its earlier generation.
Driven gently and one or two up, is is economical but always feels
compromised. They thrive on revs and consequently feel gutless in the
bottom half of the rev range... although here they are at least economical.

The 1.4 on the other hand has taller gearing. The engine is far less
willing to rev but outright poke is slightly better and it feels easier to
drive when you're heavily laden.

But if you spend most of your time on at higher speeds and you don't get the
TDCi, go for the 1.6. It's as economical as the other two outside of the
city, a nicer engine than both too.

Quote:
i am mainly
interested in fuel economy but i dont want my car to stall when i turn
on the a/c
The 1.25 is fine with air conditioning, depending on your perspective. If
you hate the little kick you have with the air conditioning compressor
cycling in then you don't want either petrol Fiesta, you want the diesel.

Come to think of it, you want the diesel anyway, if fuel consumption is your
bag.

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