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Default 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 02:48 PM






Ok where to start?
After an already terrible day i jump in the car and drive off. I get no
more than half a mile down the road stop at a junction select first
gear then pull away. I then try to select seccond but theres nothing
there, infact theres nothing else there at all not even neutral. The
gear lever just flaps arround wherever it wants to but i cant find
anything but first. Any ideas of what this is and how easy to repair
for an unskilled mechanic like myself. Would it be a better idea just
to go to my local garrage? If so any rough estimates of cost would be
good. Thanks. Mark.


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Default Re: 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 02:54 PM






On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 19:48:29 -0000, mylesy25 <mark.myles (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com>
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Ok where to start?
After an already terrible day i jump in the car and drive off. I get no
more than half a mile down the road stop at a junction select first
gear then pull away. I then try to select seccond but theres nothing
there, infact theres nothing else there at all not even neutral. The
gear lever just flaps arround wherever it wants to but i cant find
anything but first. Any ideas of what this is and how easy to repair
for an unskilled mechanic like myself. Would it be a better idea just
to go to my local garrage? If so any rough estimates of cost would be
good. Thanks. Mark.


Unless you've actually broken it it's fairly easy to fix, you want a copy
of the haynes manual though, as you need to mess about with a tape measure
to set it up right.


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Default Re: 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 02:57 PM




mylesy25 wrote:
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Ok where to start?
After an already terrible day i jump in the car and drive off. I get no
more than half a mile down the road stop at a junction select first
gear then pull away. I then try to select seccond but theres nothing
there, infact theres nothing else there at all not even neutral. The
gear lever just flaps arround wherever it wants to but i cant find
anything but first. Any ideas of what this is and how easy to repair
for an unskilled mechanic like myself. Would it be a better idea just
to go to my local garrage? If so any rough estimates of cost would be
good. Thanks. Mark.
easy enough job to do, pop in to your local pug parts place and ask for
the 2 gearshift rods, 2 rods with cups at either end that sit on small
ball joints, pry the old ones off and squeeze the new ones back on,
they can be a bit of a tight fit but will snap back into place.

Reg



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Default Re: 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 02:57 PM




Duncan Wood wrote:


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Unless you've actually broken it it's fairly easy to fix, you want a copy
of the haynes manual though, as you need to mess about with a tape measure
to set it up right.
Thanks. Looks like a trip to halfords in first gear tomorrow then. LOL



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Default Re: 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 02:59 PM



On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 19:57:51 -0000, mylesy25 <mark.myles (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com>
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Duncan Wood wrote:


Unless you've actually broken it it's fairly easy to fix, you want a
copy
of the haynes manual though, as you need to mess about with a tape
measure
to set it up right.

Thanks. Looks like a trip to halfords in first gear tomorrow then. LOL


Stick your head underneath first & check the bolts & roll pin are still
there. You might save yourself a 2nd trip.


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Default Re: 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 03:00 PM



On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 19:57:44 -0000, <kronenburgh (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

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mylesy25 wrote:
Ok where to start?
After an already terrible day i jump in the car and drive off. I get no
more than half a mile down the road stop at a junction select first
gear then pull away. I then try to select seccond but theres nothing
there, infact theres nothing else there at all not even neutral. The
gear lever just flaps arround wherever it wants to but i cant find
anything but first. Any ideas of what this is and how easy to repair
for an unskilled mechanic like myself. Would it be a better idea just
to go to my local garrage? If so any rough estimates of cost would be
good. Thanks. Mark.

easy enough job to do, pop in to your local pug parts place and ask for
the 2 gearshift rods, 2 rods with cups at either end that sit on small
ball joints, pry the old ones off and squeeze the new ones back on,
they can be a bit of a tight fit but will snap back into place.

Reg

You can probably get the old ones back on temporarily. It's worth checking
the adjustment after you've changed them though.


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Default Re: 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 03:47 PM




"mylesy25" <mark.myles (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote

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Ok where to start?
After an already terrible day i jump in the car and drive off. I get no
more than half a mile down the road stop at a junction select first
gear then pull away. I then try to select seccond but theres nothing
there, infact theres nothing else there at all not even neutral. The
gear lever just flaps arround wherever it wants to but i cant find
anything but first. Any ideas of what this is and how easy to repair
for an unskilled mechanic like myself. Would it be a better idea just
to go to my local garrage? If so any rough estimates of cost would be
good. Thanks. Mark.
Probably a long shot, but the 306 I worked on had a pretty cool system
whereby you could disconnect the linkage, take the box out, wobble the
gearstick, put it back in, reattach the linkage and it all lines up again,
perfectly. All because it's made up of fixed length bars and no adjustment
is possible. This the case with the 205? If a bar has popped off, can you
snap it back on?




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Default Re: 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 03:53 PM



mylesy25 wrote:
Quote:
Ok where to start?
After an already terrible day i jump in the car and drive off. I get no
more than half a mile down the road stop at a junction select first
gear then pull away. I then try to select seccond but theres nothing
there, infact theres nothing else there at all not even neutral. The
gear lever just flaps arround wherever it wants to but i cant find
anything but first. Any ideas of what this is and how easy to repair
for an unskilled mechanic like myself. Would it be a better idea just
to go to my local garrage? If so any rough estimates of cost would be
good. Thanks. Mark.
The gearchange works by a system of rods and levers connected from the
end of the gearstick (on the underneath of the car) to the gearbox (on
the passenger side of the engine bay usually under the battery).

The gear linkage has several balljoints on it, which are plastic. They
wear out and can pop off. This would be my first guess as to what's
happened.

Take a look under the car in the middle, around where the gearstick is,
and then right down the back of the engine slightly to the passenger
side and see if you can see any loose rods which have unpopped
themselves. They'll probably only really fit one way.

Once the joints start popping off, they'll probably keep doing it with
increasing frequency so you're best to at least replace the rod with the
dodgy joints, if not all the rods.

If it's not that I guess it could be something rather fundamentally
gubbed with the gearbox. Rods are cheaper.

--
Douglas


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Default Re: 205 GTI broken gear linkage??? - 01-06-2007 , 03:55 PM




Quote:
Probably a long shot, but the 306 I worked on had a pretty cool system
whereby you could disconnect the linkage, take the box out, wobble the
gearstick, put it back in, reattach the linkage and it all lines up again,
perfectly. All because it's made up of fixed length bars and no adjustment
is possible. This the case with the 205? If a bar has popped off, can you
snap it back on?
Not sure it was dark by the time i got home but ill give it a good look
in the morning. Thanks for all the replies.



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