On 17 Apr 2007, Chris Whelan <cawhelan (AT) prejudicentlworld (DOT) com> wrote:

I am the OP and your post made me think of Vehicle Excise Duty.

As I am buying a car made at about the time of the change to emission
based pricing (March 2001) then would it noticeably affect VED costs if
I went for a Focus 1.6 or Focus 1.8 made before or after that date?

As I mentioned, I haven't bough a car in years and years soI am truly
out of touch!

I do approx 3,000 miles a year (1,500 miles on local runs and 1,500
miles on 140-mile Motorway journeys).

David wrote:
My 1.8 (51 reg) TDCI Focus estate accelerates and has a top speed which is
in excess of my normal driving requirements, the road fund licence cost £110
a year and it appears to go on forever with 25 quid's worth of diesel in the
tank.

I paid £3,000 for it s/h, have run it for eight trouble-free months, and if
it turns out to be anywhere as reliable as many on this group reckons that
Foci are, then I think I will be well pleased.

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, David wrote:

Let me answer indirectly: I have the petrol 1.8, my brother has the
1.6. The gearing on the latter is so wrong that 10-20 (or even 100)
quid on the tax each year don't come into play, in my opinion.

Kostas

In article <Xns9917E807A2A37D92F1 (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1>, David says...
first place.


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On 20 Apr 2007, Conor <conor.turton (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

So it's a difference of £70 is it. Is that for both the 1.6 and 1.8?

So after three years it would have cost £210 more in VED to buy an
April 2001 car than a Feb 2001 model. Mind you £210 buys a half-
decent radio.

Where did you look that data up because the govt website only shows
data for new cars? http://www.vcacarfueldata.org.uk/ved/index.asp

"Kostas Kavoussanakis" <kavousan (AT) epcc (DOT) ed.ac.uk> wrote


If you spend 95% of your time 1 or 2 up on level motorways at 75-85mph, then
the 1.6 is fine, and will give early 40's to the gallon.

It's plain frustrating and thirsty on busy, push on B / A roads [1]

[1] compared to the 1.8 which is an altogether different beast.
Tim..

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Tim.. <the.farm.no (AT) spam (DOT) btinternet.com> wittered on forthwith;
Don't buy a Focus Zetec 1.6 Auto whatever you do. I did 120 motorway miles
in one today and it cost me £20 in fuel... I could have gone in a Bentley
Brooklands for an extra £10 fuel. Should have.

Manual Focii are great on fuel though, 1.8 doesn't seem any worse than a
1.6, so personally I'd spend the extra £20 or whatever on road tax and drive
the 1.8.


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On 20 Apr 2007, Pete M
<pete.murray (AT) bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

The Wikipedia (and I guess other sites would agree) has a chart for
the Focus engines which shows:
37.4 mpg for the 1.6
33.8 mpg for the 1.8

That's about 10% or 11% difference.

Perhaps it's not so small a difference after all.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_(International)

In news:Xns9918DDD06947FD92F1 (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1,
David <notme (AT) mail (DOT) invalid> wittered on forthwith;
Thing is, in real life the 1.6 gets driven a fair bit harder than the 1.8
due to the performance deficit, so the 1.8 tends to be better on fuel.

This is only from experience of having had 130 of them on fleet at any one
time from '98 to '01, so by I could be wrong.

Our fuel costs were nearly always lower with the 1.8 than the 1.6, but that
might have been because our cars were harder driven than most.

A hard driven 1.8 will use more fuel than a hard driven 1.6, and a lightly
driven 1.6 in urban use /may/ use /slightly/ less fuel than a 1.8 - but
dawdling in any Focus is something that gets harder and harder to do once
you discover just how brilliantly they respond to being driven harder.

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Pete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force -
Golf GTi Mk2 (2.0 transplant in progress),
Golf GTi Mk1 (For Sale)
OMF#9

Currently listening to The White Stripes

"Pete M" <pete.murray (AT) bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote in
message news:f0bdf0$vcd$1 (AT) registered (DOT) motzarella.org...
Over 65k miles, my 1.8 averaged 34-36mpg driven over very varying roads,
between leisturely and at 9/10ths of maximum V.

Very occasionally do you need to drop lower than 4th in A road
circumstances, most overtaking manouvers can be accomplished in 5th quite
happily, the same cannot not be said for the 1.6.

Mine was running the ST airbox, and Bluefin though which further bolstered
torque and over 5500rpm response, but you very rarely needed to go there.

Tim..