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Default '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-16-2009 , 06:53 PM






Pal of mine has a motorhome based on a 15 year old Transit 2.5 turbo
diesel which is giving problems. It's very down on power throughout the
rev range. So far the garage has replaced the ECU at a cost of several
hundred with no improvment and now want to change the fuel pump for nearly
a grand.
I know little about diesels - and didn't even know one that old had
electronics. Any likely faults before the garage bankrupts him while
learning their job?

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-17-2009 , 04:57 AM






Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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Pal of mine has a motorhome based on a 15 year old Transit 2.5 turbo
diesel which is giving problems. It's very down on power throughout the
rev range. So far the garage has replaced the ECU at a cost of several
hundred with no improvment and now want to change the fuel pump for nearly
a grand.
I know little about diesels - and didn't even know one that old had
electronics. Any likely faults before the garage bankrupts him while
learning their job?

Find another garage for starters

It could be several things , partially blocked injectors / worn injectors
worn /damaged turbo fuel blockage , after 15 years its amazing how much crap
builds up in the fuel system , if hes used biofuel that may have dislodged some of
the crap

Knackered fuel pump , incorrect valve settings (checking these used to be a service
item something often ignored by most garages) worn bores worn valves

These vans were not known for thier scintilating performance when new

The injectors , pump and cylinder pressures can be checked (and should be by any
competeant garage) as can the valve clearences

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-17-2009 , 06:32 AM



In article <50ab6058bcdave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) says...
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Pal of mine has a motorhome based on a 15 year old Transit 2.5 turbo
diesel which is giving problems. It's very down on power throughout the
rev range. So far the garage has replaced the ECU at a cost of several
hundred with no improvment and now want to change the fuel pump for nearly
a grand.
I know little about diesels - and didn't even know one that old had
electronics. Any likely faults before the garage bankrupts him while
learning their job?
On my mates van, it was the camshaft that'd snapped. Didn't sound like
it was running on less than 4 but it was.

Most likely the fuel pump. There's a place in Birmingham that recons and
refits then for around £400.

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-17-2009 , 07:00 AM



In article <xn0ggiasis8hi000 (AT) news-text (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk>,
steve robinson <steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Pal of mine has a motorhome based on a 15 year old Transit 2.5 turbo
diesel which is giving problems. It's very down on power throughout
the rev range. So far the garage has replaced the ECU at a cost of
several hundred with no improvment and now want to change the fuel
pump for nearly a grand. I know little about diesels - and didn't even
know one that old had electronics. Any likely faults before the garage
bankrupts him while learning their job?

Quote:
Find another garage for starters
He's tried two - one a main dealer who supplied and serviced it and
another 'well respected' small independant.

Quote:
It could be several things , partially blocked injectors / worn
injectors worn /damaged turbo fuel blockage , after 15 years its
amazing how much crap builds up in the fuel system , if hes used
biofuel that may have dislodged some of the crap

Knackered fuel pump , incorrect valve settings (checking these used to
be a service item something often ignored by most garages) worn bores
worn valves

These vans were not known for thier scintilating performance when new

The injectors , pump and cylinder pressures can be checked (and should
be by any competeant garage) as can the valve clearances
Omitted to say the fault came on suddenly - so unlikely to be just wear.

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-17-2009 , 07:40 AM



On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:00:00 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
<dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
In article <xn0ggiasis8hi000 (AT) news-text (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk>,
steve robinson <steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Pal of mine has a motorhome based on a 15 year old Transit 2.5 turbo
diesel which is giving problems. It's very down on power throughout
the rev range. So far the garage has replaced the ECU at a cost of
several hundred with no improvment and now want to change the fuel
pump for nearly a grand. I know little about diesels - and didn't even
know one that old had electronics. Any likely faults before the garage
bankrupts him while learning their job?


Find another garage for starters

He's tried two - one a main dealer who supplied and serviced it and
another 'well respected' small independant.

It could be several things , partially blocked injectors / worn
injectors worn /damaged turbo fuel blockage , after 15 years its
amazing how much crap builds up in the fuel system , if hes used
biofuel that may have dislodged some of the crap

Knackered fuel pump , incorrect valve settings (checking these used to
be a service item something often ignored by most garages) worn bores
worn valves

These vans were not known for thier scintilating performance when new

The injectors , pump and cylinder pressures can be checked (and should
be by any competeant garage) as can the valve clearances

Omitted to say the fault came on suddenly - so unlikely to be just wear.

Presumably it's an EPic pump, he'll want somewhere that's got a Lucas
Laser with the diagnostic kit .

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-17-2009 , 09:46 AM



Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quote:
In article <xn0ggiasis8hi000 (AT) news-text (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk>,
steve robinson <steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Pal of mine has a motorhome based on a 15 year old Transit 2.5 turbo
diesel which is giving problems. It's very down on power throughout
the rev range. So far the garage has replaced the ECU at a cost of
several hundred with no improvment and now want to change the fuel
pump for nearly a grand. I know little about diesels - and didn't even
know one that old had electronics. Any likely faults before the garage
bankrupts him while learning their job?


Find another garage for starters

He's tried two - one a main dealer who supplied and serviced it and
another 'well respected' small independant.

It could be several things , partially blocked injectors / worn
injectors worn /damaged turbo fuel blockage , after 15 years its
amazing how much crap builds up in the fuel system , if hes used
biofuel that may have dislodged some of the crap

Knackered fuel pump , incorrect valve settings (checking these used to
be a service item something often ignored by most garages) worn bores
worn valves

These vans were not known for thier scintilating performance when new

The injectors , pump and cylinder pressures can be checked (and should
be by any competeant garage) as can the valve clearances

Omitted to say the fault came on suddenly - so unlikely to be just wear.
Possibly a knackered fuel pump

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-17-2009 , 12:37 PM



In article <xn0ggiifmb4er9000 (AT) news-text (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk>,
steve robinson <steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
The injectors , pump and cylinder pressures can be checked (and
should be by any competeant garage) as can the valve clearances

Omitted to say the fault came on suddenly - so unlikely to be just
wear.

Possibly a knackered fuel pump
That's what the present garage want to replace next. But they seem to be
guessing. Can it be checked in any way other than just by substitution?
It's an expensive thing to change on a whim.

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-17-2009 , 01:11 PM



Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Quote:
In article <xn0ggiifmb4er9000 (AT) news-text (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk>,
steve robinson <steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
The injectors , pump and cylinder pressures can be checked
(and should be by any competeant garage) as can the valve
clearances

Omitted to say the fault came on suddenly - so unlikely to be
just wear.

Possibly a knackered fuel pump

That's what the present garage want to replace next. But they seem
to be guessing. Can it be checked in any way other than just by
substitution? It's an expensive thing to change on a whim.
They can yes but it requires specialist tools and not all garages
would have the equipment

One of the other posters said thiers a place in Birmingham that does
pump testing

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-18-2009 , 03:30 AM



In article <op.u1ywwq15haghkf@lucy>,
Duncan Wood <nntpnews (AT) dmx512 (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Bit like the Ford dealer who said they had the diagnostics for the ECU -
but that didn't work, obviously.

However that doesn't mean they know how to use or interpret them, or in
the case of my local VW dealer even bother to plug it in.
Fairy nuff. But then fitting and charging for a new ECU which didn't cure
the problem is taking the piss?

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Default Re: '94 Transit 2.5 turbo diesel. - 10-18-2009 , 12:38 PM



On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:30:23 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
<dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
In article <op.u1ywwq15haghkf@lucy>,
Duncan Wood <nntpnews (AT) dmx512 (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Bit like the Ford dealer who said they had the diagnostics for the
ECU -
but that didn't work, obviously.

However that doesn't mean they know how to use or interpret them, or in
the case of my local VW dealer even bother to plug it in.

Fairy nuff. But then fitting and charging for a new ECU which didn't cure
the problem is taking the piss?

Claiming they couldn't find the intermittent fault on the heating when it
had all the fault codes stored from both it & the battery going flat was
taking the piss, given it was under warranty at the time. Blaming the ECU
is a fairly common thing, they're normally the most reliable bit of any
system.

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