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Dave Plowman (News)
 
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Default Re: A beginners guide to stuffing up your trackrod end ball joint... - 05-22-2007 , 07:51 AM






In article <0fKdnW6BV-ATX8_bRVnyiAA (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
John <doesnotwork (AT) aiabsdC (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Years ago, I used to have an old Granada Ghia X 2.8i Auto and one of the
oil seals on the auto box was leaking. Already knowing that auto boxes
are very specialized bits of kit and I would never dare delve into the
mysterious inner workings of one, I consulted the HBOL to find that it
was a simple job to replace said oil seal.

So, obtained new seal for £1.75 and set about dropping the box. Once the
box was on the floor, the HBOL said, "Undo the six bolts holding the
torque converter housing to the box, lift away the housing and remove
the seal".
Is this a direct quote or from memory? ;-)

On most boxes the front seal can be replaced after removing the TC - and
is rather obvious.

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Default Re: A beginners guide to stuffing up your trackrod end ball joint... - 05-22-2007 , 08:02 AM







"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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In article <0fKdnW6BV-ATX8_bRVnyiAA (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
John <doesnotwork (AT) aiabsdC (DOT) com> wrote:
Years ago, I used to have an old Granada Ghia X 2.8i Auto and one of the
oil seals on the auto box was leaking. Already knowing that auto boxes
are very specialized bits of kit and I would never dare delve into the
mysterious inner workings of one, I consulted the HBOL to find that it
was a simple job to replace said oil seal.

So, obtained new seal for £1.75 and set about dropping the box. Once the
box was on the floor, the HBOL said, "Undo the six bolts holding the
torque converter housing to the box, lift away the housing and remove
the seal".

Is this a direct quote or from memory? ;-)

On most boxes the front seal can be replaced after removing the TC - and
is rather obvious.

I have changed granada auto front seals without grief, as soon as the box is
off you can change it easily.

Maybe he read the seal change directions for the manual box (at this point)
the front seal on a manual box is often in a nose piece (to support the
thrust race) and is held on by a ring of bolts (usually 4)

That said Haynes BOL are rubbish, I have often been tempted to send them
bills based on following their instructions (such as 'you can now turn the
engine' if you did, the valves would bend) 'The hand brake is self
adjusting' No, it isn't, the footbrake is, the handbrake isn't. etc. etc.
'Reverse the procedure to reassemble' is another good one, and why can't
they put in a picture of something useful, like what the brake springs look
like when correct.

Mrcheerful




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Clive George
 
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Default Re: A beginners guide to stuffing up your trackrod end ball joint... - 05-22-2007 , 08:19 AM



"MrCheerful" <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote


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That said Haynes BOL are rubbish, I have often been tempted to send them
bills based on following their instructions (such as 'you can now turn the
engine' if you did, the valves would bend) 'The hand brake is self
adjusting' No, it isn't, the footbrake is, the handbrake isn't. etc.
etc. 'Reverse the procedure to reassemble' is another good one, and why
can't they put in a picture of something useful, like what the brake
springs look like when correct.
My favourite is "based on a complete strip down and rebuild", which means
they don't get eg the car body in the way when doing a cambelt. Funnily
enough that makes it an awful lot easier.

cheers,
clive



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John
 
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Default Re: A beginners guide to stuffing up your trackrod end ball joint... - 05-22-2007 , 08:38 AM




"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
In article <0fKdnW6BV-ATX8_bRVnyiAA (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
John <doesnotwork (AT) aiabsdC (DOT) com> wrote:
Years ago, I used to have an old Granada Ghia X 2.8i Auto and one of the
oil seals on the auto box was leaking. Already knowing that auto boxes
are very specialized bits of kit and I would never dare delve into the
mysterious inner workings of one, I consulted the HBOL to find that it
was a simple job to replace said oil seal.

So, obtained new seal for £1.75 and set about dropping the box. Once the
box was on the floor, the HBOL said, "Undo the six bolts holding the
torque converter housing to the box, lift away the housing and remove
the seal".

Is this a direct quote or from memory? ;-)
Oh, very much from a very hazy memory due to the many hundreds of gallons of
beer consumed in the 15 years or more between then and now )

But I do know that it happened and wasn't a drunken hallucination as we have
photos of the bits that came out, lying on the garage floor and, somewhere,
we still have the bill from Stephenson's.

John




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Dave Plowman (News)
 
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Default Re: A beginners guide to stuffing up your trackrod end ball joint... - 05-22-2007 , 08:45 AM



In article <hRB4i.45183$Ch.32091 (AT) fe2 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
MrCheerful <nbkm57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On most boxes the front seal can be replaced after removing the TC - and
is rather obvious.


I have changed granada auto front seals without grief, as soon as the
box is off you can change it easily.
Yes - I'm not familiar with Ford autos but on most I've worked on is part
of the pump or bellhousing and easily removable.

Quote:
Maybe he read the seal change directions for the manual box (at this
point) the front seal on a manual box is often in a nose piece (to
support the thrust race) and is held on by a ring of bolts (usually 4)
Or perhaps confused removing the TC securing bolts before removing the
transmission complete with TC? I'm also not quite sure which bits would
explode when removing the bellhousing - unless you managed to pull out the
input shaft with it too. But then I don't know Ford autos.

Quote:
That said Haynes BOL are rubbish, I have often been tempted to send them
bills based on following their instructions (such as 'you can now turn
the engine' if you did, the valves would bend) 'The hand brake is self
adjusting' No, it isn't, the footbrake is, the handbrake isn't. etc.
etc. 'Reverse the procedure to reassemble' is another good one, and why
can't they put in a picture of something useful, like what the brake
springs look like when correct.
Indeed. They tend only to be of limited help if you already have a fair
idea of what you're doing, while being aimed at the novice. The maker's
manual usually gives better instructions for the novice which seems apex
over posterior.

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Dave Plowman dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk London SW
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Duncan Wood
 
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Default Re: A beginners guide to stuffing up your trackrod end ball joint... - 05-22-2007 , 09:11 AM



On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:38:37 +0100, John <doesnotwork (AT) aiabsdC (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:4ee6fbbba3dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk...
In article <0fKdnW6BV-ATX8_bRVnyiAA (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
John <doesnotwork (AT) aiabsdC (DOT) com> wrote:
Years ago, I used to have an old Granada Ghia X 2.8i Auto and one of
the
oil seals on the auto box was leaking. Already knowing that auto boxes
are very specialized bits of kit and I would never dare delve into the
mysterious inner workings of one, I consulted the HBOL to find that it
was a simple job to replace said oil seal.

So, obtained new seal for £1.75 and set about dropping the box. Once
the
box was on the floor, the HBOL said, "Undo the six bolts holding the
torque converter housing to the box, lift away the housing and remove
the seal".

Is this a direct quote or from memory? ;-)

Oh, very much from a very hazy memory due to the many hundreds of
gallons of
beer consumed in the 15 years or more between then and now )

But I do know that it happened and wasn't a drunken hallucination as we
have
photos of the bits that came out, lying on the garage floor and,
somewhere,
we still have the bill from Stephenson's.

John



Go on then, post the photo.


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John
 
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Default Re: A beginners guide to stuffing up your trackrod end ball joint... - 05-22-2007 , 10:07 AM




"Duncan Wood" <newsto (AT) dmx512 (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
On Tue, 22 May 2007 14:38:37 +0100, John <doesnotwork (AT) aiabsdC (DOT) com> wrote:


"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:4ee6fbbba3dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk...
In article <0fKdnW6BV-ATX8_bRVnyiAA (AT) bt (DOT) com>,
John <doesnotwork (AT) aiabsdC (DOT) com> wrote:
Years ago, I used to have an old Granada Ghia X 2.8i Auto and one of
the
oil seals on the auto box was leaking. Already knowing that auto boxes
are very specialized bits of kit and I would never dare delve into the
mysterious inner workings of one, I consulted the HBOL to find that it
was a simple job to replace said oil seal.

So, obtained new seal for £1.75 and set about dropping the box. Once
the
box was on the floor, the HBOL said, "Undo the six bolts holding the
torque converter housing to the box, lift away the housing and remove
the seal".

Is this a direct quote or from memory? ;-)

Oh, very much from a very hazy memory due to the many hundreds of
gallons of
beer consumed in the 15 years or more between then and now )

But I do know that it happened and wasn't a drunken hallucination as we
have
photos of the bits that came out, lying on the garage floor and,
somewhere,
we still have the bill from Stephenson's.

John

Go on then, post the photo.
We are currently in the middle of rewiring the house and then, of course,
the redecorating so stuff like photos and important documents have been put
out of the way for safe keeping but I've made a note so that I don't forget
to do it and I promise that you'll all be able to laugh at me and my mate,
looking dumbstruck and wondering what the hell we do now )

John




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