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Duncan Wood
 
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Default Re: Broken suspension - 10-27-2009 , 10:55 AM






On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:02:11 -0000, shazzbat
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On 26 Oct, 18:59, "shazzbat" <shazz... (AT) spamlessness (DOT) fsnet.co.uk
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:20:20 -0000, steve robinson

st... (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Dave wrote:

Hi,

I have a '51 Vauxhall vectra 2.2 hatchback. The rear passenger side
suspension is broken. I am fairly sure that the bottom of the
spring has broken, where it would attach to the shock absorber (see
pictures linked below, both the broken side and the good side).

What do I need to replace? Just the spring, or the shock absorber
and / or anything else? Just this side or both?
Is it a good idea to try and source a new one from a breakers yard,
or should I buy a new one?
Is it the sort of job a not very competent amateur (ie. me) could
attempt (I do not have a tool for compressing the spring)?
How much would you expect this to cost if done professionally?

Thanks in advance.

http://www.geocities.com/hughmorgan72/car/badSide.jpg(200kb)
http://www.geocities.com/hughmorgan72/car/goodSide.jpg(100kb)

They recomend that you replace the springs in pairs as over time
they
lose some of thier bounce

& if it's not bouncy then you don't need to change the shocks, spring
compressors aren't expensive.- Hide quoted text -

It is not bouncy. I have just rung a garage and he reakons it is one
hour at 32.50 so that is a lot easier that doing it myself I am
afraid. He reakons one from a breakers would be a false ecconomy, but
I do not need to do both sides. That seems to me like a bargain for
the south (Berkshire).

Looking at those photos since I have posted them I noticed that there
is a lot of corrosion on the broken side and none on the good side. I
have to assume that this means that the broken wheel is locking up
under breaking, it happend a while ago (I use the car every day) and
that I have not noticed what I have to assume is a signifigant change
in handling. Worries me a bit.

If you're referrring to the corroion on the brake disc, it is not
significant, it's just where water has got on the disc recently and will
disappear the first time the brake is applied. It does not mean the
brake is
locking up. Have you been hearing tyre noises which might suggest this?

Your not noticing a change in handling demonstrates the fallacy that
springs
must always be changed in pairs. For racing and for extreme high
performance
use this may be the case, but for everyday motoring it's not necessary.
Of
course this does not change the fact that if one has gone and they're
both
the same age, the other *may* also fail, but primarily the claim is
used by
those who are selling them and would obviously like to sell you two
rather
than one.

Steve

I am reffering to the corrosion on the brake disk. What makes me
think it is locking up is that the good side is clean but the broken
side is dirty. I am not worried that it is a problem itself, just
that it is a sign of how little weight was on that wheel.


The weight on the wheel was exactly the same as before it broke, minus a
few ounces for anything which broke off.

Steve
No it won't. The weight ends up distributed between the two diagonal
pairs, if you reduce the preload on any one spring or diagonal pair then
the other pair take up the load.

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Adrian
 
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Default Re: Broken suspension - 10-27-2009 , 11:48 AM






"shazzbat" <shazzbat (AT) spamlessness (DOT) fsnet.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

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I am reffering to the corrosion on the brake disk. What makes me think
it is locking up is that the good side is clean but the broken side is
dirty.
No. It's just that that caliper's partially seized.

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Harry Bloomfield
 
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Default Re: Broken suspension - 10-27-2009 , 03:04 PM



Dave presented the following explanation :
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I am reffering to the corrosion on the brake disk. What makes me
think it is locking up is that the good side is clean but the broken
side is dirty. I am not worried that it is a problem itself, just
that it is a sign of how little weight was on that wheel.
The rusty side may just be because the wind was blowing the rain onto
that side of the car - on the other hand it might mean that the caliper
is seixed on the rusty side and you have little or no braking effect on
that wheel.

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vickydosans
 
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Default Re: Broken suspension - 10-31-2009 , 07:17 AM



broken suspension in chemistry, mixture of two substances, one of which
is finely divided and dispersed in the other.i can only describe this
much but i have not much more knowledge about it.




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Chris Whelan
 
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Default Re: Broken suspension - 10-31-2009 , 08:56 AM



On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:17:24 +0000, vickydosans wrote:

Quote:
broken suspension in chemistry, mixture of two substances, one of which
is finely divided and dispersed in the other.i can only describe this
much but i have not much more knowledge about it.
Thank you for your useful contribution.

Chris

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