 | |
Citroen C3 EGR/turbo problem
Cars Maintenance General car maintenance (uk.rec.cars.maintenance)
 |
| | Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
 
| |||
| |||
|
Re: Citroen C3 EGR/turbo problem -
10-25-2009
, 03:18 PM
|
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:04:57 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Fred wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:35:44 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Sainsburies B30 , 30% biofuel I have seen that at the pumps but it also says to check with the car manufacturer before using. Since I've had enough trouble with the car already, I wasn't brave enough to try it. Would it work with my car; which cars can't use it? What advantages/disadvantages are there over "traditional" diesel. The prices were the same when I saw it. TIA. Most citroens can use it , call the dealership if your worried You get slightly better mpg , lower emissions , it as a cleaning effect on the fuel system , they recomend you change the fuel filter after you run a tankful through the engine My filter was black with sludge and crap after i run a tankful through on a vehicle that had only covered 24000 miles and was eighteen months old Downside biofuel causes africans to starve as we nick all the crops for fuel Also it tends to clog your fuel filter faster even on its own, other effects depend on the engine & fuel system, everybody who makes engines publishs the recommendations. |
because it has a cleaning action on the fuel system .
If you stick to bio then you wont have any filter issues
Infact most advise that you change your filter after you first run on
bio
#12
| |||
| |||
|
|
Duncan Wood wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:04:57 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Fred wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:35:44 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Sainsburies B30 , 30% biofuel I have seen that at the pumps but it also says to check with the car manufacturer before using. Since I've had enough trouble with the car already, I wasn't brave enough to try it. Would it work with my car; which cars can't use it? What advantages/disadvantages are there over "traditional" diesel. The prices were the same when I saw it. TIA. Most citroens can use it , call the dealership if your worried You get slightly better mpg , lower emissions , it as a cleaning effect on the fuel system , they recomend you change the fuel filter after you run a tankful through the engine My filter was black with sludge and crap after i run a tankful through on a vehicle that had only covered 24000 miles and was eighteen months old Downside biofuel causes africans to starve as we nick all the crops for fuel Also it tends to clog your fuel filter faster even on its own, other effects depend on the engine & fuel system, everybody who makes engines publishs the recommendations. It only clogs the fuel filter if you havent run on bio before , thats because it has a cleaning action on the fuel system . |
system to the fuel filter, yes
Quote:
|
If you stick to bio then you wont have any filter issues Infact most advise that you change your filter after you first run on bio |
more often.
#13
| |||
| |||
|
|
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:18:10 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Duncan Wood wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:04:57 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Fred wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:35:44 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Sainsburies B30 , 30% biofuel I have seen that at the pumps but it also says to check with the car manufacturer before using. Since I've had enough trouble with the car already, I wasn't brave enough to try it. Would it work with my car; which cars can't use it? What advantages/disadvantages are there over "traditional" diesel. The prices were the same when I saw it. TIA. Most citroens can use it , call the dealership if your worried You get slightly better mpg , lower emissions , it as a cleaning >>> effect on the fuel system , they recomend you change the fuel >>> filter after you run a tankful through the engine My filter was black with sludge and crap after i run a tankful through on a vehicle that had only covered 24000 miles and was eighteen months old Downside biofuel causes africans to starve as we nick all the crops for fuel Also it tends to clog your fuel filter faster even on its own, other effects depend on the engine & fuel system, everybody who makes engines publishs the recommendations. It only clogs the fuel filter if you havent run on bio before , thats because it has a cleaning action on the fuel system . It tends to relocate crap that's already stuck to the inside of the fuel system to the fuel filter, yes If you stick to bio then you wont have any filter issues Infact most advise that you change your filter after you first run on bio Yes. & almost all diesel manufacturers advise you to carry on changing it more often. |
changes vary between manufacturers , if your change is every 12000
shouldnt be a problem , any more than that then it may be sensible if
your running on pure bio
On the b30 there shouldnt be to much of a problem
#14
| |||
| |||
|
|
Duncan Wood wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:18:10 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Duncan Wood wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:04:57 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Fred wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:35:44 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Sainsburies B30 , 30% biofuel I have seen that at the pumps but it also says to check with the car manufacturer before using. Since I've had enough trouble with the car already, I wasn't brave enough to try it. Would it work with my car; which cars can't use it? What advantages/disadvantages are there over "traditional" diesel. The prices were the same when I saw it. TIA. Most citroens can use it , call the dealership if your worried You get slightly better mpg , lower emissions , it as a cleaning >>> effect on the fuel system , they recomend you change the fuel >>> filter after you run a tankful through the engine My filter was black with sludge and crap after i run a tankful through on a vehicle that had only covered 24000 miles and was eighteen months old Downside biofuel causes africans to starve as we nick all the crops for fuel Also it tends to clog your fuel filter faster even on its own, other effects depend on the engine & fuel system, everybody who makes engines publishs the recommendations. It only clogs the fuel filter if you havent run on bio before , thats because it has a cleaning action on the fuel system . It tends to relocate crap that's already stuck to the inside of the fuel system to the fuel filter, yes If you stick to bio then you wont have any filter issues Infact most advise that you change your filter after you first run on bio Yes. & almost all diesel manufacturers advise you to carry on changing it more often. Thats a bit like how longs a piece of string though ,as filter changes vary between manufacturers , if your change is every 12000 shouldnt be a problem , any more than that then it may be sensible if your running on pure bio On the b30 there shouldnt be to much of a problem |
drop the service change for the fuel filter by a 1/3.
#15
| |||
| |||
|
|
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:17:39 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Duncan Wood wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:18:10 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Duncan Wood wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:04:57 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Fred wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:35:44 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Sainsburies B30 , 30% biofuel I have seen that at the pumps but it also says to check with the car manufacturer before using. Since I've had enough trouble with the car already, I wasn't brave enough to try it. >>>>> > Would it work with my car; which cars can't use it? What >>>>> > advantages/disadvantages are there over "traditional" diesel. >>>>> > The prices were the same when I saw it. TIA. Most citroens can use it , call the dealership if your worried You get slightly better mpg , lower emissions , it as a cleaning >>> effect on the fuel system , they recomend you change the fuel >>> filter after you run a tankful through the engine My filter was black with sludge and crap after i run a tankful through on a vehicle that had only covered 24000 miles and was eighteen months old Downside biofuel causes africans to starve as we nick all the crops for fuel Also it tends to clog your fuel filter faster even on its own, other effects depend on the engine & fuel system, everybody who >>> > makes engines publishs the recommendations. It only clogs the fuel filter if you havent run on bio before , thats because it has a cleaning action on the fuel system . It tends to relocate crap that's already stuck to the inside of the fuel system to the fuel filter, yes If you stick to bio then you wont have any filter issues Infact most advise that you change your filter after you first run on bio Yes. & almost all diesel manufacturers advise you to carry on changing it more often. Thats a bit like how longs a piece of string though ,as filter changes vary between manufacturers , if your change is every 12000 shouldnt be a problem , any more than that then it may be sensible if your running on pure bio On the b30 there shouldnt be to much of a problem Yes & you can measure how long the piece of string is, e.g. for B30 Iveco drop the service change for the fuel filter by a 1/3. |
they run at 24000 mile intervals
It all depends on service intervals
Citroen , vaxuall and several other manufacturers also recomend
shortened filter changes if you drive in dusty conditions or you cant
be sure of the quality of fuel , they also offer different intervals
for high milage low milage and stop start drivers
The ops best option is to talk to citroen technical
#16
| |||
| |||
|
|
Duncan Wood wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:17:39 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Duncan Wood wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:18:10 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Duncan Wood wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:04:57 -0000, steve robinson steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Fred wrote: On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 09:35:44 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Sainsburies B30 , 30% biofuel I have seen that at the pumps but it also says to check with the car manufacturer before using. Since I've had enough trouble with the car already, I wasn't brave enough to try it. >>>>> > Would it work with my car; which cars can't use it? What >>>>> > advantages/disadvantages are there over "traditional" diesel. >>>>> > The prices were the same when I saw it. TIA. Most citroens can use it , call the dealership if your worried You get slightly better mpg , lower emissions , it as a cleaning >>> effect on the fuel system , they recomend you change the fuel >>> filter after you run a tankful through the engine My filter was black with sludge and crap after i run a tankful through on a vehicle that had only covered 24000 miles and was eighteen months old Downside biofuel causes africans to starve as we nick all the crops for fuel Also it tends to clog your fuel filter faster even on its own, other effects depend on the engine & fuel system, everybody who >>> > makes engines publishs the recommendations. It only clogs the fuel filter if you havent run on bio before , thats because it has a cleaning action on the fuel system . It tends to relocate crap that's already stuck to the inside of the fuel system to the fuel filter, yes If you stick to bio then you wont have any filter issues Infact most advise that you change your filter after you first run on bio Yes. & almost all diesel manufacturers advise you to carry on changing it more often. Thats a bit like how longs a piece of string though ,as filter changes vary between manufacturers , if your change is every 12000 shouldnt be a problem , any more than that then it may be sensible if your running on pure bio On the b30 there shouldnt be to much of a problem Yes & you can measure how long the piece of string is, e.g. for B30 Iveco drop the service change for the fuel filter by a 1/3. Yes but citroen on the relays dont ( or they didnt 3 months ago ) and they run at 24000 mile intervals It all depends on service intervals Citroen , vaxuall and several other manufacturers also recomend shortened filter changes if you drive in dusty conditions or you cant be sure of the quality of fuel , they also offer different intervals for high milage low milage and stop start drivers The ops best option is to talk to citroen technical |
aren't though.
#17
| |||
| |||
|
|
Citroen , vaxuall and several other manufacturers also recomend shortened filter changes if you drive in dusty conditions or you cant be sure of the quality of fuel , they also offer different intervals for high milage low milage and stop start drivers |
more frequent fuel filter changes but why dusty conditions, or did you
mean air filter change? How does stop start driving affect filters?
Quote:
|
The ops best option is to talk to citroen technical |
office?
Re. changing fuel filters when running on biofuel, why is it such an
effective cleaner? Wouldn't there be a point after which it will have
shifted all the dirt and you could revert to less frequent changes?
What if the car was driven on bio from day one, there wouldn't be any
dirt to shift, would that require frequent filter changes?
TIA
#18
| ||||
| ||||
|
|
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:56:59 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Citroen , vaxuall and several other manufacturers also recomend shortened filter changes if you drive in dusty conditions or you cant be sure of the quality of fuel , they also offer different intervals for high milage low milage and stop start drivers Thanks for the replies. I can understand why poor fuel might require more frequent fuel filter changes but why dusty conditions, or did you mean air filter change? How does stop start driving affect filters? |
Quote:
|
The ops best option is to talk to citroen technical Who are they? The service dept. at my local garage or Citroen's head office? |
in slough if you struggle with the dealer
Quote:
|
Re. changing fuel filters when running on biofuel, why is it such an effective cleaner? Wouldn't there be a point after which it will have shifted all the dirt and you could revert to less frequent changes? |
What if the car was driven on bio from day one, there
Quote:
|
wouldn't be any dirt to shift, would that require frequent filter changes? It depends on sevice intervals and the quality of biofuel what mix it |
Bio b100 is not made on the same scale as nrmal desiel with the same
checks
googles your freind here thier are plenty of sites that will give you
all the details
> TIA
#19
| |||
| |||
|
|
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:56:59 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Citroen , vaxuall and several other manufacturers also recomend shortened filter changes if you drive in dusty conditions or you cant be sure of the quality of fuel , they also offer different intervals for high milage low milage and stop start drivers Thanks for the replies. I can understand why poor fuel might require more frequent fuel filter changes but why dusty conditions, or did you mean air filter change? How does stop start driving affect filters? |
specified as per 1000m as it's easy to measure, when you're testing them
you work out how many 100s litres fluid will clog them, back guess that as
a mileage & stick it in the service schedule, if you spend your life on
the motorway then the estimate will be very conservative, drive it solely
round town & it will have been optimistic.
Quote:
|
The ops best option is to talk to citroen technical Who are they? The service dept. at my local garage or Citroen's head office? |
difference between b5,b30,b100 & neat rapeseed oil then you need to talk
to head office
Quote:
|
Re. changing fuel filters when running on biofuel, why is it such an effective cleaner? Wouldn't there be a point after which it will have shifted all the dirt and you could revert to less frequent changes? What if the car was driven on bio from day one, there wouldn't be any dirt to shift, would that require frequent filter changes? TIA |
crude diesel. B30 gives about 3-5% less peak power on a gen set than real
diesel in the summer. In the winter it's much more sensitive to
temperature. (Winter diesel gives you 3-8% less power)
#20
| |||
| |||
|
|
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:46:55 -0000, Fred fred (AT) no-email (DOT) here.invalid> wrote: On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:56:59 GMT, "steve robinson" steve (AT) colevalleyinteriors (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Citroen , vaxuall and several other manufacturers also recomend shortened filter changes if you drive in dusty conditions or you cant be sure of the quality of fuel , they also offer different intervals for high milage low milage and stop start drivers Thanks for the replies. I can understand why poor fuel might require more frequent fuel filter changes but why dusty conditions, or did you mean air filter change? How does stop start driving affect filters? Filters oly care how much fluid has passed through them, they're only specified as per 1000m as it's easy to measure, when you're testing them you work out how many 100s litres fluid will clog them, back guess that as a mileage & stick it in the service schedule, if you spend your life on the motorway then the estimate will be very conservative, drive it solely round town & it will have been optimistic. The ops best option is to talk to citroen technical Who are they? The service dept. at my local garage or Citroen's head office? Well they both ought to know. If your local garage doesn't know the difference between b5,b30,b100 & neat rapeseed oil then you need to talk to head office Re. changing fuel filters when running on biofuel, why is it such an effective cleaner? Wouldn't there be a point after which it will have shifted all the dirt and you could revert to less frequent changes? What if the car was driven on bio from day one, there wouldn't be any dirt to shift, would that require frequent filter changes? TIA It comes with its own dirt as well, in general slightly more of it than crude diesel. B30 gives about 3-5% less peak power on a gen set than real diesel in the summer. In the winter it's much more sensitive to temperature. (Winter diesel gives you 3-8% less power) |
dont suffer any loss
|
« Previous Thread
|
Next Thread »
| Thread Tools | |
| Display Modes | |
Linear Mode
| |
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.