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Dent repair advice -
10-27-2009
, 10:22 AM
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I approached someone who does mobile paint repairs and paintless dent repair (PDR) and he didn't think it would be suitable for normal PDR techniques due to proximity to headlamp (apparently they need something strong to level off), suggesting that welding studs on would be necessary - which presumably requires taking back to bare metal. He can arrange this work if I want to go ahead with it. |
where there is just a dent, which can be pushed back out.
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I approached someone who does mobile paint repairs and paintless dent repair (PDR) and he didn't think it would be suitable for normal PDR techniques due to proximity to headlamp |
bods are nothing but bodge and wag over merchants.
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Does this sound realistic, and if so, what's the best place to get this sort of work done, and the sorts of prices associated with this? The normal mobile paint repair sounds great if metal is not exposed, but if it is, are they still really suitable - or are other paint methods better? I don't want it rusting through in the future for example. Take it to a proper bodyshop. Its not an expensive repair. I'd be |
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In article <7koe15F3bl3fnU1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net>, David Hearn says... I approached someone who does mobile paint repairs and paintless dent repair (PDR) and he didn't think it would be suitable for normal PDR techniques due to proximity to headlamp Bollocks. More like that its a proper repair and he knows mobile PDR bods are nothing but bodge and wag over merchants. |
Renault Espace last year and watched the bloke do it. He got every
single dent out without using filler, paint or any other 'bodge', the
bloke was supremely good at it, and it worked out over £700 less than
the cheapest quote I'd had to get the dents out from a 'proper' bodyshop
(the car had pearlescent paint) it was worth a go. He did it in one
morning and the only tell-tale that he'd been near the car was a little
rubber grommet in the D post / rear 1/4 where he had to drill a hole to
get his dent removal gubbin in to an area that was otherwise inaccessible.
The only thing the bloke did that could almost be called a bodge was to
give the car a full polish with colour magic once he'd finished.
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Double bollocks. I got a PDR bloke to repair little dents all over a Renault Espace last year and watched the bloke do it. He got every single dent out without using filler, paint or any other 'bodge', the bloke was supremely good at it, and it worked out over £700 less than the cheapest quote I'd had to get the dents out from a 'proper' bodyshop (the car had pearlescent paint) it was worth a go. He did it in one morning and the only tell-tale that he'd been near the car was a little rubber grommet in the D post / rear 1/4 where he had to drill a hole to get his dent removal gubbin in to an area that was otherwise inaccessible. |
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It happens that Pete M formulated : Double bollocks. I got a PDR bloke to repair little dents all over a Renault Espace last year and watched the bloke do it. He got every single dent out without using filler, paint or any other 'bodge', the bloke was supremely good at it, and it worked out over £700 less than the cheapest quote I'd had to get the dents out from a 'proper' bodyshop (the car had pearlescent paint) it was worth a go. He did it in one morning and the only tell-tale that he'd been near the car wasa little rubber grommet in the D post / rear 1/4 where he had to drill a hole to get his dent removal gubbin in to an area that was otherwise inaccessible. Fine for dents, but this is a dent and paint scraped off. |
you're going to have to paint it afterwards though.
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Double bollocks. I got a PDR bloke to repair little dents all over a Renault Espace last year and watched the bloke do it. He got every single dent out without using filler, paint or any other 'bodge' Fine for dents, but this is a dent and paint scraped off. |
PDR stands for?
The reason the PDR techniques don't work where the paint's broken is
nothing to do with whether they can/will paint or not - but everything to
do with how the metal's bent. A bend that cracks or removes paint has
stretched or creased or both the metal. The PDR techniques can't address
that.
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Double bollocks. I got a PDR bloke to repair little dents all over a Renault Espace last year and watched the bloke do it. He got every single dent out without using filler, paint or any other 'bodge' |
panelbeating skills, not just the ability to manipulate a panel with a
stick and a bit of freeze spray.
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the only tell-tale that he'd been near the car was a little rubber grommet in the D post / rear 1/4 where he had to drill a hole to get his dent removal gubbin in to an area that was otherwise inaccessible. There should've been no sign at all that he'd been there if it was |
in the D pillar.
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The only thing the bloke did that could almost be called a bodge was to give the car a full polish with colour magic once he'd finished. |
out of a proper bodyshop with.
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Conor
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the only tell-tale that he'd been near the car was a little rubber grommet in the D post / rear 1/4 where he had to drill a hole to get his dent removal gubbin in to an area that was otherwise inaccessible. There should've been no sign at all that he'd been there if it was repaired properly. I'd certainly be very fucking pissed off at a grommet in the D pillar. The only thing the bloke did that could almost be called a bodge was to give the car a full polish with colour magic once he'd finished. Well a grommet filling a potential rot hole isn't something you'd come out of a proper bodyshop with. |
double-skinned area with no straightforward access. I'd suggest that any
bodyshop would find it difficult to get behind there to gain access
without either drilling holes or major surgery. If paint was required,
then the usual solution would probably be a dent-puller attached via
either a hole drilled into the skin or something welded temporarily onto
it. Either's going to require a skim of filler to make the surface good
before paint - and either's going to leave the cavity protection
breached, unless wax is later injected. Via something like... a hole
plugged with a grommet...
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Conor <conor (AT) gmx (DOT) co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: the only tell-tale that he'd been near the car was a little rubber grommet in the D post / rear 1/4 where he had to drill a hole to get his dent removal gubbin in to an area that was otherwise inaccessible. There should've been no sign at all that he'd been there if it was repaired properly. I'd certainly be very fucking pissed off at a grommet in the D pillar. The only thing the bloke did that could almost be called a bodge was to give the car a full polish with colour magic once he'd finished. Well a grommet filling a potential rot hole isn't something you'd come out of a proper bodyshop with. If the grommet was required, then it's because there's some kind of double-skinned area with no straightforward access. I'd suggest that any bodyshop would find it difficult to get behind there to gain access without either drilling holes or major surgery. If paint was required, then the usual solution would probably be a dent-puller attached via either a hole drilled into the skin or something welded temporarily onto it. Either's going to require a skim of filler to make the surface good before paint - and either's going to leave the cavity protection breached, unless wax is later injected. Via something like... a hole plugged with a grommet... |
proofy stuff on) to get to a double skinned area is no worse than the
holes rustproofing companies used to drill to get their spray nozzles in
with. Not obvious either as invisible with the door shut and in a
position which doesn't tend to even get dirty.
Are you telling me you'd rather spend £700 odd than £120 getting your
car fixed to avoid a grommet? If so, I suspect psychiatric help maybe
needed ;-)
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'62 Rover P4 100
'61 Rover P5 3 litre
'78 Escort 1300 Sport
'99 Audi A6 V6 Quattro Avant
"It's an Alfa, it will go wrong, it will piss you off, why should your
Alfa experience be different from everyone else's.
Now get back out there and swear at it before something else breaks."
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