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Dave Plowman (News)
 
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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-18-2005 , 11:16 AM






In article <lfbqi191nl8t2pa9s9c9cst9k3u8r7bcej (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Colin Stamp <col.dustbin (AT) stamp (DOT) plus.com> wrote:
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I'm getting new discs and pads for the back of my Saab 9-3 at 60K
miles. Is there any point getting handbrake shoes too, or are they
supposed to last practically indefinitely?
Parking brake drum in disc system? Yes. Unless you drive round with the
handbrake on often, they're unlikely to be worn.

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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-18-2005 , 04:52 PM






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i've never had to cahange a pair on any of the series land rovers i've
owned
as they only had material scraped off the shoe if you used the hand breake
to come to a sto (think amarican i'ts not a hand brake but an emergancy
brake).

using the hand breake to keep you stationary dosent wear them at all.


Andy
I thought Landrover handbrakes worked on the gearbox, and not on the wheels
?
(or something like that)
Graham




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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-19-2005 , 03:16 AM



Quote:
i've never had to cahange a pair on any of the series land rovers i've
owned
as they only had material scraped off the shoe if you used the hand
breake
to come to a sto (think amarican i'ts not a hand brake but an emergancy
brake).

using the hand breake to keep you stationary dosent wear them at all.

I thought Landrover handbrakes worked on the gearbox, and not on the
wheels ?
(or something like that)
You're probably thinking of inboard discs, which aren't far from the
gearbox.

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Adrian
 
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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-19-2005 , 03:26 AM



AstraVanMan (Peter (AT) Whataloadofforeskinbollocks (DOT) co.uk) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

Quote:
I thought Landrover handbrakes worked on the gearbox, and not on the
wheels? (or something like that)

You're probably thinking of inboard discs, which aren't far from the
gearbox.
IIRC, Series Landies have a transmission brake - a drum on the 'box output
shaft.

They're not alone, either. I can think of at least one vehicle (C35/242)
with a disk on the 'box output shaft for the handbrake.


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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-19-2005 , 04:50 PM



We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com>
saying something like:

Quote:
You're probably thinking of inboard discs, which aren't far from the
gearbox.

IIRC, Series Landies have a transmission brake - a drum on the 'box output
shaft.
Yup. I've often wondered how much use that would really be in an
emergency situation.
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Duncanwood
 
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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-19-2005 , 06:19 PM



On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:50:09 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimlycurmudgeon683REMOVE (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian <toomany2cvs (AT) gmail (DOT) com
saying something like:

You're probably thinking of inboard discs, which aren't far from the
gearbox.

IIRC, Series Landies have a transmission brake - a drum on the 'box
output
shaft.

Yup. I've often wondered how much use that would really be in an
emergency situation.

Only time I've seen one applied at speed the series 3 rolled.


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Grimly Curmudgeon
 
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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-25-2005 , 06:49 PM



We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Duncanwood <nipnews (AT) dmx512 (DOT) co.uk>
saying something like:

Quote:
IIRC, Series Landies have a transmission brake - a drum on the 'box
output
shaft.

Yup. I've often wondered how much use that would really be in an
emergency situation.


Only time I've seen one applied at speed the series 3 rolled.
Oops...

Surprises me, but I suppose the rear wheels locking up and the
relatively high CoG of the SIII wouldn't help if it started going
sideways.

What I thought would happen, but obviously doesn't, is the sudden
application of the transmission brake would lead to snapped halfshafts
or propshaft UJs.
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Chris Bolus
 
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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-26-2005 , 11:26 AM



On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 00:49:04 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimlycurmudgeon683REMOVE (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Duncanwood <nipnews (AT) dmx512 (DOT) co.uk
saying something like:

IIRC, Series Landies have a transmission brake - a drum on the 'box
output
shaft.

Yup. I've often wondered how much use that would really be in an
emergency situation.


Only time I've seen one applied at speed the series 3 rolled.

Oops...

Surprises me, but I suppose the rear wheels locking up and the
relatively high CoG of the SIII wouldn't help if it started going
sideways.

What I thought would happen, but obviously doesn't, is the sudden
application of the transmission brake would lead to snapped halfshafts
or propshaft UJs.
Kind of like slamming an auto into Park?
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Guy King
 
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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 09-26-2005 , 11:49 AM



The message <l58gj110vj56478p5q7e9g8pdmbe71brk1 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>
from Chris Bolus <chris (AT) FARINAb0lus (DOT) com> contains these words:

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Kind of like slamming an auto into Park?
Depending on the auto, that doesn't necessarily do anything.

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Grimly Curmudgeon
 
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Default Re: Do hadbrake shoes last forever? - 10-01-2005 , 12:51 PM



We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Chris Bolus <chris (AT) FARINAb0lus (DOT) com>
saying something like:

Quote:
What I thought would happen, but obviously doesn't, is the sudden
application of the transmission brake would lead to snapped halfshafts
or propshaft UJs.

Kind of like slamming an auto into Park?
I did that by accident once on an XJ12. Much gnashing of teeth (mine)
ensued as the parking pawl broke. The box was unaffected in other ways
though.
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