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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 05:13 PM







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Hi,

I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec).
Last time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a
day, of which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that
when I come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for
30 seconds or so before dropping down to normal.

Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what
could be wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?

MAF, coolant temperature sensor or O2 sensor.
Any faults with the above and it would have failed the emissions test. Thats
not to say that it was fine, but now isnt though...

The 1.6 should manage 35mpg under those conditions though...

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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 05:14 PM







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Hi,

I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec). Last
time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a day, of
which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that when I
come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for 30 seconds or
so before dropping down to normal.

Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what could
be wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?

I'd be more inclined to check for soft tyres, binding brakes etc first.

Tim..




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-14-2007 , 08:24 AM



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Hi,

I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec). Last
time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a day, of
which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that when I
come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for 30 seconds
or so before dropping down to normal.

Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what could
be wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?


I'd be more inclined to check for soft tyres, binding brakes etc first.

Tim..
Hi again, and thanks to everyone who replied.

I changed the plugs and airfilter at the weekend (plugs were shot, filter
was a bit grubby-looking), so I'll see if that helps.

I noticed this morning that the temperature gauge only rose past 1/4-hot
when I got stuck in traffic (a fairly rare occurence) so maybe the
thermostat is sticking a bit. I had a Cavalier SRi a few years ago, and
changing the one on that just about doubled my fuel economy.

This issue with the revs staying high seems to have got worse as well - it
took a good 2 or 3 minutus to fall from 1,500rpm to ~500rpm today. It never
used to do that (the car's been in family from new). The garage said the
throttle position sensor might be sticking when I mentioned it to them a
while ago. Can they be cleaned/freed, or is a replacement one in order?

Cheers,

Iain




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-14-2007 , 10:09 AM




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I noticed this morning that the temperature gauge only rose past 1/4-hot
when I got stuck in traffic (a fairly rare occurence) so maybe the
thermostat is sticking a bit. I had a Cavalier SRi a few years ago, and
changing the one on that just about doubled my fuel economy.

The needle should be dead in the center of NORMAL or just to the left when
fully warmed up and should be able to maintain this moving or not.

I would definately change the thermostat before going any further..

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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-14-2007 , 10:49 AM



Tim.. wrote:

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I would definately change the thermostat before going any further..
Might be worth pointing out that it's located to the right of the cylinder
head, in a black box that's bolted on to the side of the head with various
radiator hoses and a temperature sensor poking out the top.





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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-14-2007 , 03:56 PM



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Tim.. wrote:

I would definately change the thermostat before going any further..

Might be worth pointing out that it's located to the right of the cylinder
head, in a black box that's bolted on to the side of the head with various
radiator hoses and a temperature sensor poking out the top.

Thanks guys - I'll try and get round to it at the weekend :-)

Do I need to get any other 'bits' - eg seals, 'o' rings etc?

Cheers,

Iain




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-15-2007 , 01:49 AM




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Tim.. wrote:

I would definately change the thermostat before going any further..

Might be worth pointing out that it's located to the right of the
cylinder head, in a black box that's bolted on to the side of the head
with various radiator hoses and a temperature sensor poking out the top.


Thanks guys - I'll try and get round to it at the weekend :-)

Do I need to get any other 'bits' - eg seals, 'o' rings etc?

Yes, - usually the thermostat comes bare- no o-ring included, and invariably
the old one is too crusty / breaks.

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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-15-2007 , 02:44 AM



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Do I need to get any other 'bits' - eg seals, 'o' rings etc?


Yes, - usually the thermostat comes bare- no o-ring included, and
invariably the old one is too crusty / breaks.
I've ordered one this morning - £9.99 including the o-ring.

I took a closer look at the temp gauge this morning (got a clear run down
the motorway today). It rose fairly quickly, but stopped just before the 'N'
of 'Normal'. Looks like it's knackered...

Cheers,

Iain




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-15-2007 , 04:31 AM




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Do I need to get any other 'bits' - eg seals, 'o' rings etc?


Yes, - usually the thermostat comes bare- no o-ring included, and
invariably the old one is too crusty / breaks.

I've ordered one this morning - £9.99 including the o-ring.

I took a closer look at the temp gauge this morning (got a clear run down
the motorway today). It rose fairly quickly, but stopped just before the
'N' of 'Normal'. Looks like it's knackered...

Sounds below optimum. Modern engines really need to run at design
temperature to work properly/ give good fuel economy. 10 years ago, that was
around about 95-100deg C. I notice today that BMW's latest twin turbo 3l
six is specified to run at 106deg C.

Tim.




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