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Default Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 10:16 AM






Hi,

I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec). Last
time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a day, of
which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that when I
come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for 30 seconds or
so before dropping down to normal.

Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what could be
wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?

Thanks in advance,

Iain



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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 10:48 AM






Iain McLaren wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec).
Last time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a
day, of which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that
when I come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for
30 seconds or so before dropping down to normal.

Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what
could be wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?
MAF, coolant temperature sensor or O2 sensor.




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 10:56 AM



"Sandy Nuts" <not (AT) forme (DOT) com> wrote

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Iain McLaren wrote:
Hi,

I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec).
Last time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a
day, of which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that
when I come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for
30 seconds or so before dropping down to normal.

Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what
could be wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?

MAF, coolant temperature sensor or O2 sensor.
Thanks - would getting those tested require a trip to a garage with some
test equipment?

Any idea what sort of mpg I should be expecting (assuming sensible driving)?

Cheers,

Iain




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 11:40 AM



Iain McLaren wrote:

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MAF, coolant temperature sensor or O2 sensor.

Thanks - would getting those tested require a trip to a garage with
some test equipment?

Any idea what sort of mpg I should be expecting (assuming sensible
driving)?
Most probably. They're cheap enough to try swapping with parts from a scrap
yard, but if they're not causing the ECU to log fault codes (you wouldn't
know until it's plugged in as Escort's have no malfunction lamp) then it's a
case of swap and hope for the best. Most garages would rather do that than
spend the time measuring the various outputs from each sensor.

The 1.6 isn't particularly economical for its size, but high 30s mpg isn't
unobtainable if driven nicely.




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 01:08 PM



Iain McLaren wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec). Last
time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a day, of
which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that when I
come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for 30 seconds or
so before dropping down to normal.
That's normal.

Quote:
Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what could
be wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?
I used to get 36mpg from mine driven sanely under the conditions you give,
so your economy is low.

How are you checking the figures? You need to fill it, stopping on the first
click, and reset the trip. When the tank is nearly empty, fill it from the
same pump. Calculate your consumption from that, don't use the petrol
gauge.

Sandy Nuts suggestions are the first things to try, although you don't
mention what servicing it has had. If it's really been neglected, the air
filter could be choked, the plugs could be misfiring slightly, one or more
brakes could be sticking on, even under-inflated tyres will have an effect.

Unless you are sure of its condition, it might be worth servicing it.

Chris

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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 01:58 PM



"Chris Whelan" <cawhelan (AT) prejudicentlworld (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Iain McLaren wrote:

Hi,

I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec). Last
time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a day, of
which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that when I
come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for 30 seconds
or
so before dropping down to normal.

That's normal.

Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what could
be wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?

I used to get 36mpg from mine driven sanely under the conditions you give,
so your economy is low.

How are you checking the figures? You need to fill it, stopping on the
first
click, and reset the trip. When the tank is nearly empty, fill it from the
same pump. Calculate your consumption from that, don't use the petrol
gauge.

Sandy Nuts suggestions are the first things to try, although you don't
mention what servicing it has had. If it's really been neglected, the air
filter could be choked, the plugs could be misfiring slightly, one or more
brakes could be sticking on, even under-inflated tyres will have an
effect.

Unless you are sure of its condition, it might be worth servicing it.

Chris
Hi,

Yeah, it has been a bit neglected. It gets what it needs, but that's about
all. The air filter was OK last time I checked. It could probably do with
some new plugs though...they've definately not been changed for a while. The
brakes do need freeing up fairly regularly too...it doesn't feel like
they're binding, however (ie it seems to coast OK).

Cheers,

Iain


I checked the figures a while ago, using the method you described.




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 02:28 PM



Iain McLaren wrote:


Quote:
Hi,

Yeah, it has been a bit neglected. It gets what it needs, but that's about
all. The air filter was OK last time I checked. It could probably do with
some new plugs though...they've definately not been changed for a while.
The brakes do need freeing up fairly regularly too...it doesn't feel like
they're binding, however (ie it seems to coast OK).

It's highly recommended that you use Motorcraft plugs gapped to 1mm (not
1.3), and that the HT leads are replaced with genuine Ford ones at the same
time. Expensive, I know, but well worth it IMHO.

Chris

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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 02:33 PM



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Quote:
I seem to be getting poor fuel economy in my Escort ('96 1.6 Zetec).
Last
time I calculated it, I was getting about 27mpg. I do 25 miles a day, of
which 20 is motorway, 3 is rural and 2 is urban.

At the MOT all the emissions were spot on, but I have noticed that when
I
come off the motorway the engine idles at about 1500 rpm for 30 seconds
or
so before dropping down to normal.

That's normal.

Is the economy I'm seeing acceptable? If not, any suggestions what could
be wrong (apart from having a crap car!!)?

I used to get 36mpg from mine driven sanely under the conditions you
give,
so your economy is low.

How are you checking the figures? You need to fill it, stopping on the
first
click, and reset the trip. When the tank is nearly empty, fill it from
the
same pump. Calculate your consumption from that, don't use the petrol
gauge.

Sandy Nuts suggestions are the first things to try, although you don't
mention what servicing it has had. If it's really been neglected, the air
filter could be choked, the plugs could be misfiring slightly, one or
more
brakes could be sticking on, even under-inflated tyres will have an
effect.

Unless you are sure of its condition, it might be worth servicing it.

Chris

Hi,

Yeah, it has been a bit neglected. It gets what it needs, but that's about
all. The air filter was OK last time I checked. It could probably do with
some new plugs though...they've definately not been changed for a while.
The brakes do need freeing up fairly regularly too...it doesn't feel like
they're binding, however (ie it seems to coast OK).

Cheers,

Iain


I checked the figures a while ago, using the method you described.
When I use mine, its for relatively short trips. Being light-footed
(genuinely takes effort if it's the first time you've attempted not having a
lead foot) and I now regularly get about 43.6 mpg apparently.

It's about 41 litres of fuel (the light must be coming on early, it's a 55
litre tank) for about 380/390 miles or so, which I think is pretty good
going when you consider it's half motorway trips and half pissing about in
the city, which I hate doing, not a fan of traffic lights. A good reason why
I mow down pedestrians when they're red...




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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 02:57 PM



In article <8sK0i.1131$7l6.585 (AT) newsfe7-win (DOT) ntli.net>,
graydoe3 (AT) privacy (DOT) net (graydoe) wrote:

Quote:
It's about 41 litres of fuel (the light must be coming on early,
it's a 55 litre tank) for about 380/390 miles or so, which I think
is pretty good going when you consider it's half motorway trips and
half pissing about in the city, which I hate doing, not a fan of
traffic lights. A good reason why I mow down pedestrians when
they're red...
That's the sort of levels I get in city driving with my scrote 1.8
diesel.

Normally on a Motorway run I can do 450+ before the light comes on at
about 44litres gone

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Default Re: Escort MPG - 05-10-2007 , 03:49 PM



"Paul Cummins" <agree2pay4uce (AT) spam (DOT) vlaad.co.uk> wrote

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In article <8sK0i.1131$7l6.585 (AT) newsfe7-win (DOT) ntli.net>,
graydoe3 (AT) privacy (DOT) net (graydoe) wrote:

It's about 41 litres of fuel (the light must be coming on early,
it's a 55 litre tank) for about 380/390 miles or so, which I think
is pretty good going when you consider it's half motorway trips and
half pissing about in the city, which I hate doing, not a fan of
traffic lights. A good reason why I mow down pedestrians when
they're red...

That's the sort of levels I get in city driving with my scrote 1.8
diesel.

Normally on a Motorway run I can do 450+ before the light comes on at
about 44litres gone.
The Top Gear with Clarkson driving to Edinburgh from London and back in an
Audi describes it well, except I obviously use the A/C and
heater/radio/ipod-player whenever I feel like it. It's just a case of being
more aware, which definitely makes for a safer driver I feel. Idiots would
argue you're too busy watching the speedo, but I don't. I just hover at 60
on the motorway, and enjoy the slower, more relaxed speed.

Now and again it's always good to give the engine some enjoyment, but
cruising about is fine for a car. I really do think that if more people
drove light-footed we'd have less angry drivers on the road. It's relaxing
to go at a constant speed in the far left lane.




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