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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-13-2007 , 01:01 PM






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A new trackrod end will be required - I doubt you'll find the rubber sold
separately.

I had a look at the track rod end, it is total seized on and I mean
totally seized. Oh well, time to book in at the local garage and hand
over the cash. 1 hour labour minimum charge I suspect (£50 + VAT no
doubt), 1 track rod end and probably another £20 quid for tracking. Bit
of a costly mistake then. Interesting job mind you, but probably
cheaper to have gone to the cinema

Regards,

Tim


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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-13-2007 , 01:03 PM






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They can be bought, but are very hard to find.
Was was hoping you could just replace the rubber at the bottom. If not
I guess it's going to be a new track rod end. I'm sure somebody could
service the ball joint, but it would probably cost as much in labour as
the cost of a new track rod.

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Tim


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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-13-2007 , 07:06 PM



In article <tiI1i.5279$Wf.1002 (AT) newsfe3-gui (DOT) ntli.net>,
Tim <tpb100 (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:
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The one you wanted has a threaded bolt running through it and works
like a clamp, pushing the bolt downwards whilst levering up on the hub.


The shop had one of those in, but the guy behind the counter said they
were fiddly and often slipped off. He recommended the fork and it was a
few quid cheaper. Gutted, I would have been more than happy to pay the
few quid more if it was the right tool for the job.

Live and learn eh?
The best type are the lever sort rather like a pair of pliers as there is
nothing to turn and possibly slip on the parts you're separating (the
screw is at the other end). Available in several sizes. Unfortunately the
most expensive option.

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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-13-2007 , 07:08 PM



In article <OnI1i.7851$MH3.2299 (AT) newsfe4-win (DOT) ntli.net>,
Tim <tpb100 (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:
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I had a look at the track rod end, it is total seized on and I mean
totally seized. Oh well, time to book in at the local garage and hand
over the cash. 1 hour labour minimum charge I suspect (£50 + VAT no
doubt), 1 track rod end and probably another £20 quid for tracking. Bit
of a costly mistake then. Interesting job mind you, but probably
cheaper to have gone to the cinema
Did you try heating it with a blowlamp? Usually shifts most things.

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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-13-2007 , 09:24 PM



On May 13, 3:07 am, Tim <tpb... (AT) ntlworld (DOT) com> wrote:
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I had a split outer CV boot, looked like a simple job to replace in the
Haynes manual. Purchased a fork shaped balljoint separator tool and set
to work.

A few hammer blows later, I had a successfully separated track rod from
the hub, but I also had a somewhat worse for ware rubber shoe that sat
between the balljoint and the hub.

At the time I decided not to play around with it too much. Because me
poking it gently with a screw driver might cause further damage, where
as a ton of car bumping and grinding on it will leave it untouched

I'm guessing there must be 100's of guys like me, hammering the living
crap out of this joint on Saturday mornings. Have manufactures made
this an easy component to replace? Or do I need to book my car in to
get a new shoe pressed into the ball joint (or just a new track rod end)?

Regards,

Tim
sad results that are commom of a balljoint fork. with a ball peen
hammer hit the arm on the knuckle where the baaljoint is attached. hit
it hard and shock it out of the whole.



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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-14-2007 , 05:18 AM



In article <1179109441.471553.106210 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
DUBINOUT <renegadeautoparts (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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sad results that are commom of a balljoint fork. with a ball peen
hammer hit the arm on the knuckle where the baaljoint is attached. hit
it hard and shock it out of the whole.
IMHO an urban myth. And whacking steering components is to be avoided
anyway. Buy and use the correct puller.

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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-14-2007 , 05:36 AM



Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

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In article <1179109441.471553.106210 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
DUBINOUT <renegadeautoparts (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
sad results that are commom of a balljoint fork. with a ball peen
hammer hit the arm on the knuckle where the baaljoint is attached. hit
it hard and shock it out of the whole.

IMHO an urban myth. And whacking steering components is to be avoided
anyway.
I've read this so many times, I thought it must just be me that couldn't do
it!

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Buy and use the correct puller.
Yep, they are not that expensive and will last if not mistreated. Mine is
around 30 years old...

Chris

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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-14-2007 , 06:39 AM



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IMHO an urban myth.
It's never worked for me. Stick to the proper puller.

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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-14-2007 , 07:19 AM



In article <vYW1i.7985$MH3.802 (AT) newsfe4-win (DOT) ntli.net>,
Chris Whelan <cawhelan (AT) prejudicentlworld (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article <1179109441.471553.106210 (AT) l77g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
DUBINOUT <renegadeautoparts (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
sad results that are commom of a balljoint fork. with a ball peen
hammer hit the arm on the knuckle where the baaljoint is attached. hit
it hard and shock it out of the whole.

IMHO an urban myth. And whacking steering components is to be avoided
anyway.

I've read this so many times, I thought it must just be me that couldn't
do it!
The theory is fine - after all it's how you break a morse taper on a lathe
or drill chuck etc.

But it depends on some part of the assembly being rigidly mounted so the
kinetic energy can work - and car steering systems don't fit into this. If
you could support one side of the housing with a large mass then
accurately whack the other side with a hammer it might - but just what is
the point when proper tools are available at reasonable cost?

Quote:
Buy and use the correct puller.

Yep, they are not that expensive and will last if not mistreated. Mine is
around 30 years old...
Indeed. It's not even as though they vary between imperial and metric
threads, etc.

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Conor
 
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Default Re: Fork balljoint separator made a mess of rubber shoe - 05-14-2007 , 08:18 AM



In article <tiI1i.5279$Wf.1002 (AT) newsfe3-gui (DOT) ntli.net>, Tim says...
Quote:
The one you wanted has a threaded bolt running through it and works
like a clamp, pushing the bolt downwards whilst levering up on the hub.


The shop had one of those in, but the guy behind the counter said they
were fiddly and often slipped off. He recommended the fork and it was a
few quid cheaper. Gutted, I would have been more than happy to pay the
few quid more if it was the right tool for the job.

Live and learn eh?

Aye..we've all been there.


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