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Default Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 06:43 AM






Im fairly new to lambda sensors,
just replaced the cat with a low mileage 2nd hand cat, had to use a fair bit
of brute force to get the sensors out
the engine is a z22se vauxhall 2.2 (fitted to my vx220)
after replacing the cat (still using the old sensors) the MIL light comes on
after about 10 miles of driving after a ecu reset.
I reckon the brute force and a combination of 90k+ miles has put the sensors
past their best,
question is....

dealer is too expensive
theres a site online that does the sensors with proper cables for 60 quid
each.
or i can get universal ones which require soldering which are 20 quid each.
(i dont mind soldering at all)

which is the better option (i would say the cheapest one - seems to me im
paying 40 quid for connectors - are these sensors basically all the same
thing ?)

anyone had experience of using the universal ones ?

thanks

mark






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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 07:18 AM







"luna" <luna (AT) themoon (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Im fairly new to lambda sensors,
just replaced the cat with a low mileage 2nd hand cat, had to use a fair
bit of brute force to get the sensors out
the engine is a z22se vauxhall 2.2 (fitted to my vx220)
after replacing the cat (still using the old sensors) the MIL light comes
on after about 10 miles of driving after a ecu reset.
I reckon the brute force and a combination of 90k+ miles has put the
sensors past their best,
question is....

dealer is too expensive
theres a site online that does the sensors with proper cables for 60 quid
each.
or i can get universal ones which require soldering which are 20 quid
each.
(i dont mind soldering at all)

which is the better option (i would say the cheapest one - seems to me im
paying 40 quid for connectors - are these sensors basically all the same
thing ?)

anyone had experience of using the universal ones ?
I've replaced a few lambda sensors with Bosch universal replacements and I
must say I haven't seen them cause any issues. I can't see you encountering
any problems, providing it's wired up correctly! Chop the connector about 2"
down from the plug and solder, heat shrink and then tape the connections.
Don't splice into the original loom.




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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 12:57 PM




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I've replaced a few lambda sensors with Bosch universal replacements and I
must say I haven't seen them cause any issues. I can't see you
encountering any problems, providing it's wired up correctly! Chop the
connector about 2" down from the plug and solder, heat shrink and then
tape the connections. Don't splice into the original loom.
thanks, i couldnt see any real difference between sensors apart from the
electrical connectors,
most of the parts seem the same




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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 12:58 PM



"luna" <luna (AT) themoon (DOT) com> wrote in
news:x7alg.20357$n13.2431 (AT) newsfe2-win (DOT) ntli.net:

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Im fairly new to lambda sensors,
I much prefer my first misread of this thread. Labia sensors.

--
Stuart

"end user" v. A command regrettably not implemented in most systems.



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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 01:46 PM




"luna" <luna (AT) themoon (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Im fairly new to lambda sensors,
just replaced the cat with a low mileage 2nd hand cat, had to use a fair
bit of brute force to get the sensors out
the engine is a z22se vauxhall 2.2 (fitted to my vx220)
after replacing the cat (still using the old sensors) the MIL light comes
on after about 10 miles of driving after a ecu reset.
I reckon the brute force and a combination of 90k+ miles has put the
sensors past their best,
question is....

dealer is too expensive
theres a site online that does the sensors with proper cables for 60 quid
each.
or i can get universal ones which require soldering which are 20 quid
each.
(i dont mind soldering at all)

which is the better option (i would say the cheapest one - seems to me im
paying 40 quid for connectors - are these sensors basically all the same
thing ?)

anyone had experience of using the universal ones ?

thanks

mark





I tried an aftermarket (bosch) replacement from the local motor factor when
i was having trouble. Seemed to me to cause more problems that it was
worth. No soldering required, just plug and play, but gave the dreaded red
light just after warming the engine through. I ended up paying £10 extra
from the Fiat dealership and no problems. Total cost : £60 + fuel to and
from motor factor and dealership.

My recommendation is to get the original part from vauxhall. Just my
tuppence.

Dan.




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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 03:01 PM



luna wrote:

Quote:
Im fairly new to lambda sensors,
just replaced the cat with a low mileage 2nd hand cat, had to
use a fair bit of brute force to get the sensors out
the engine is a z22se vauxhall 2.2 (fitted to my vx220)
after replacing the cat (still using the old sensors) the MIL
light comes on after about 10 miles of driving after a ecu
reset. I reckon the brute force and a combination of 90k+
miles has put the sensors past their best,
question is....

dealer is too expensive
theres a site online that does the sensors with proper cables
for 60 quid each.
or i can get universal ones which require soldering which are
20 quid each. (i dont mind soldering at all)
Never solder the wires on a lambda sensor, crimp them. They're
usually stainless steel. One side of the sensor sits in the
flow of exhaust gas and the other side is required to "breathe"
the normal atmosphere. It gets access to this air via the
corrosion-proof cable. Don't block it off with solder.

Quote:
which is the better option (i would say the cheapest one -
seems to me im paying 40 quid for connectors - are these
sensors basically all the same thing ?)

anyone had experience of using the universal ones ?
They work just fine in my experience.

John


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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 03:37 PM



Quote:
Never solder the wires on a lambda sensor, crimp them. They're
usually stainless steel. One side of the sensor sits in the
flow of exhaust gas and the other side is required to "breathe"
the normal atmosphere. It gets access to this air via the
corrosion-proof cable. Don't block it off with solder.

which is the better option (i would say the cheapest one -
seems to me im paying 40 quid for connectors - are these
sensors basically all the same thing ?)

anyone had experience of using the universal ones ?

They work just fine in my experience.

John
thanks for the tips

mark




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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 03:45 PM




"luna" <luna (AT) themoon (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Never solder the wires on a lambda sensor, crimp them. They're
usually stainless steel. One side of the sensor sits in the
flow of exhaust gas and the other side is required to "breathe"
the normal atmosphere. It gets access to this air via the
corrosion-proof cable. Don't block it off with solder.

which is the better option (i would say the cheapest one -
seems to me im paying 40 quid for connectors - are these
sensors basically all the same thing ?)

anyone had experience of using the universal ones ?

They work just fine in my experience.

John

thanks for the tips

mark

is there a way to work out which wires are for the sensor and which are for
the heater on a 4wired lambda??






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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 04:56 PM



aussie bongo wrote:

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is there a way to work out which wires are for the sensor and
which are for the heater on a 4wired lambda??
http://www.lambdasensor.com/main/mcolours1.htm

John


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Default Re: Lambda Sensors - 06-18-2006 , 05:34 PM




"John Henderson" <jhenRemoveThis (AT) talk21 (DOT) com> wrote

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aussie bongo wrote:

is there a way to work out which wires are for the sensor and
which are for the heater on a 4wired lambda??

http://www.lambdasensor.com/main/mcolours1.htm

John
thanks john






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