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Default MG ZR exhaust. - 06-17-2006 , 06:54 PM






Guy at work has asked me to do a temporary weld job on the rear box, as he
tells me it costs over £200, which he can't afford right now.
No problem with that, as long as he takes it off for me, but I was wondering
about the purpose of the butterfly valve I notice in one of the two tail
pipes. Vacuum operated by looks of it.
Is it just for sound effects?
I can't think it adds to performance.
Mike.


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Default Re: MG ZR exhaust. - 06-18-2006 , 02:50 PM






In article <4494885d$0$945$ed2619ec (AT) ptn-nntp-reader01 (DOT) plus.net>,
Mike G <metier (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
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but I was wondering
about the purpose of the butterfly valve I notice in one of the two tail
pipes. Vacuum operated by looks of it.
Is it just for sound effects?
I can't think it adds to performance.
It's a BMW trick and it does increase power output.

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Default Re: MG ZR exhaust. - 06-18-2006 , 03:36 PM




"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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In article <4494885d$0$945$ed2619ec (AT) ptn-nntp-reader01 (DOT) plus.net>,
Mike G <metier (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
but I was wondering
about the purpose of the butterfly valve I notice in one of the two tail
pipes. Vacuum operated by looks of it.
Is it just for sound effects?
I can't think it adds to performance.

It's a BMW trick and it does increase power output.
How?
As I understand it, the tuned length of an exhaust pipe effectively finishes
at the first box.
After that it's just a question of getting the gasses away without further
restriction.
Or is the idea that adding backpressure alters the pressure wave pattern in
the tuned part of the exhaust?
Mike.



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Default Re: MG ZR exhaust. - 06-19-2006 , 07:10 AM




Mike G wrote:

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Is it just for sound effects?
I can't think it adds to performance.
I think the increased back pressure at low revs aids low down torque,
then opening the second pipe at higher revs helps top end power.



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Default Re: MG ZR exhaust. - 06-19-2006 , 02:21 PM




"fishman" <SPAMMEIFYOULIKEBUTIWONTREADIT (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Mike G wrote:

Is it just for sound effects?
I can't think it adds to performance.

I think the increased back pressure at low revs aids low down torque,
then opening the second pipe at higher revs helps top end power.
On the ZR I looked at, the butterfly valve was open at rest, so it would
have to close as soon as the engine was started. Not unlikely I suppose as
there would be lower pressure in the inlet manifold, than at WOT.
Can't understand how more backpressure would increase torque though.
Surely by restricting the exhaust gases, you're restricting the fuel/air
intake of the engine?
Mike.



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Default Re: MG ZR exhaust. - 06-19-2006 , 04:24 PM



In article <4496eb1c$0$961$ed2619ec (AT) ptn-nntp-reader01 (DOT) plus.net>,
Mike G <metier (AT) lycos (DOT) co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On the ZR I looked at, the butterfly valve was open at rest, so it would
have to close as soon as the engine was started. Not unlikely I suppose
as there would be lower pressure in the inlet manifold, than at WOT.
Can't understand how more backpressure would increase torque though.
Surely by restricting the exhaust gases, you're restricting the fuel/air
intake of the engine?
It's also to reduce noise at lowish engine speeds.

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Dave Plowman dave (AT) davenoise (DOT) co.uk London SW
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